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Post by BagLady on Jul 7, 2014 17:05:24 GMT -5
I hear Chrly has beat feet outta SLR--"Boots on the Ground"--what do you see?
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Post by slanty on Jul 7, 2014 17:13:00 GMT -5
Just went by his home. He is still here but hiding from the sheriff. Shed was open, air conditioner running, lights on I side. Monday 6:18 pm
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Post by Lra on Jul 7, 2014 17:20:09 GMT -5
Signing the house over to Gngr. Leaving the cruelty behind. I leave tomorrow. My spiritual life is more important then the hideous ugliness of the pimpled face manager a 9 dangerous egos. May you live long and feel the wrath of the karma in your soulless spirits.
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Post by BagLady on Jul 7, 2014 20:32:29 GMT -5
<Heavy sigh>... I am sorry Lra...and Gngr. Believe that no one is second guessing your decision. Events happen as they do for reasons that may not be understood at the moment. I trust your judgment to do what is best for YOU right now. I wish you happiness and serenity and hope you will keep in touch with your SLR friends.
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Post by Im Trying on Jul 7, 2014 23:41:09 GMT -5
I am truly sorry for the both of you. Things will change in SLR, nothing ever stays the same. I do feel your pain. Our Leaders in SLR have to be removed, and yes that is blood shooting out of my eyes. I am Mad!!!
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Post by Truth Seeker on Jul 8, 2014 5:22:32 GMT -5
If you ever need another resident to show "continued and selective harassment" by this manager we will be happy to help. We have compiled 4 years of documentation on this manager.
SLR would practically revert back to normal if SLohA would terminate this particular manager. That hyena has mental issue's and is NOT a good fit for OUR Community.
For one, she is under 55 and can not relate to the life style of friendly retired folks that mind their own business. The manger is what I call DAMAGED GOODS and has severe anger issues. Her hatred is always unfounded and so prevalent it rules her every waking moment.
She spoke that one of our employees was "a cancer" in SLR in the past only to justify to herself that termination was needed. This mental case manager tends to always project her character flaws on everyone else to justify herself and to vilify others. A sicko like this manager needs to disrupt other peoples lives because hers is such a mess, thus, making herself feel better knowing that if she causes suffering on others then she feels equal to them.
This manager is the absolute worst person to have in our Community for any reason, its time that the community is made aware of her aggressions to some and bring the shut ins up to speed and remove their blindfolds and let them see the 2 faced vindictive and damaged person who will manipulate any and all to get what she wants and any cost to the community and its reserves.
They say "follow the money" , well that is exactly what is about to be shown and numbers don't lie, once exposed and outed our Community then only needs to rid ourselves of these current board members and take SLR back in time to when everyone was friendly and the BOD didn't have a secret agenda to disrupt everyone's peace of mind for their own selfish gain.
It can be shown that this manbod is up to no good and have left a very visible paper trail and their own stupidity and self righteousness will be the very thing that hangs them all. When you go through everyone involved it always comes to one person at the top, and the puppet master will take the fall as all the puppets will point the finger at her to stay in denial of their actions.
Fight back Saddlebaggers, this bunch's days are numbered and they will have to face the music and the song will never end for them as long as good people remind them that they attempted to destroy a once quiet and peaceful community but pitting people against each other, wasting our reserves and acting like prison guards ruling with secret agendas, lies, and manipulation.
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Post by observer on Jul 8, 2014 10:42:48 GMT -5
Right on, Truth Seeker. Saddlebagers, it is time to make your voices known. I talked to Gngr and she is ready to deal with the whole thing. She is a heck of a lot stronger than this bunch gives her credit for and has her attorney all lined up, not to mention the evidences for the show and tell trial. Lra is on R & R for awhile and the rest is pretty low key except for the snotty little brat at the office. Let's let this all come to a head so our northern neighbors don't even have to think about it in the fall except to vote in the porches which so many folks want and why not? I've never met a porch I didn't like. We wouldn't have to change the covenant, just that added stupid definition that serves no one and no one knows where it came from. Come on SLA, FIGHT BACK.
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Post by Admin on Jul 8, 2014 11:43:07 GMT -5
A group started a Petition in April but unfortunately, by that time, most people had left the park. The Petition was initiated by Bb Lckrn, with the assistance of his attorney. (As you recall, Bb Lckrn has an irregular and oversized corner lot with insufficient frontage on streetside to park cars. His home was designed with a side driveway. A carport would normally go over a driveway, and Polk County agreed and issued a permit. But this was a problem for BOD who ordered him to remove it. BOD is taking him to mediation in mid-July in anticipation of bringing another expensive lawsuit for the owners to finance.)
The Lckrn Petition proposes that several Rules changes be on the next ballot providing that many "troublesome" architectural issues in S-bag be deferred to Polk County Building Division. It is a simple petition; it simply sets aside and "vacates" nine (9) previously-adopted (maybe), poorly-written, and unreasonable restraints on using your own property and instead, requires owners to build in accordance with current Polk County Codes.
If passed, this would eliminate the long-standing practice of selective enforcement by power-hungry MANBOD and stop the habitual disputes and lawsuits caused by MANBOD. Such passage might have a nullifying effect on the lawsuits now filed or about to be filed. There is no time deadline on getting the required signatures needed to bring this to a meeting, discussed and getting agreed-upon language on the ballot for next Feb. You need 20% of parcel owners to sign the petition--that is 156 signatures.
According to what BOD "says" (Prez Peet Brdun made several statements along these lines) they would be "happy" to see such a rule. Despite the extreme dissatisfaction voiced about the rules by owners in March, there has been no discussion about organizing a committee or calling a member meeting to discuss needed changes or supporting those who are trying to do something. BOD apparently would rather take owners to mediation and S u e them and spend every last cent in Reserves to tame the unruly masses than actually do what the owners expect them to do.
Owners are NOTHING to these people except a necessary nuisance that provides income.
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Post by observer on Jul 10, 2014 10:21:24 GMT -5
This letter is posted anonymously and is from our Canadian SLohA members:
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:03:39 -0400
To all board members at SLR
Good Morning,
We have recently heard there could possibly be a lawsuit occurring against a double wide unit moved onto a lot on Silversides St. We have heard that the porch is located on the wrong end of the building according to the bylaws. My question is, does anyone really give a damn what end the porch is located on and if they do, I would like to hear the reasoning behind it. As long as the footprint does not exceed the overall dimensions set out in the bylaws, who cares? It would make more sense to us to take a vote to change the bylaw rather than launch an expensive lawsuit.
I sometimes wonder if board members and management don't lose site as to who they are working for, which I was always led to believe it was the property owners. You have been elected to make good sound financial decisions and yes also to enforce bylaws. In the past two winters of residing in SLR we can't help but notice the change of attitude from some members of the board as well as some people in management positions. It appears to us that there are certain people that are on nothing short of power trips which we really prefer not to have to deal with in what is supposed to be a friendly retirement community.
With my experience and being in business for over forty years, this is a no win for all parties, the only winners are the law firms and their associates. I realize bylaws have to be enforced but by the same token, in a park such as this, I would have preferred that it be done in a more diplomatic way through agreeable negotiations if possible.
On being second generation property owners in the park, (30 years), we can't help but notice the big change in attitude regarding board and management services and this in turn affects the overall friendly atmosphere in the park that prevailed previously for many years. I know ruling with an iron fist will sometimes get quicker results but it does nothing to enhance the friendly attitude of all citizens in the park.
We would like to see a vote taken regarding this particular situation into possibly changing the bylaw regarding porches to avoid any further huge expense in legal fees to SLR. We also believe that there should be a general review of all bylaws regarding rules and regulations regarding car ports etc. so that they are more up to date and in step with the times.
Ladies and gentlemen, good common sense will still get you down the road a long ways with very few problems.
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Post by observer on Jul 10, 2014 10:39:37 GMT -5
Friends and Neighbors, Lra and Gngr promised that they would NOT S u e the board, management and association, but they could not prevent them from suing the girls therefore wasting our money. Know that the girls have kept their word to you. However, there may come a time when they win this suit to pay for the lawyer's fee unless it is awarded and other expenses and may countersue for all kinds of damages and strife. They throw that out there to hear your opinions on this as well. What would you do in this case?
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Post by BagLady on Jul 10, 2014 10:47:05 GMT -5
Oh Canada! Thanks for being a voice of reason. That was a nice letter and had a very reasonable comment; i.e. that it would be FAR more economical and civil to change the nonsensical Rules than to ask owners to finance multiple and obscenely expensive lawsuits that will create business turmoil, financial stress and social instability within the community for YEARS into the future!
No one wins except the lawyers who collect the fees regardless of outcome.
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Post by BagLady on Jul 10, 2014 11:20:33 GMT -5
This is a compendium of responses made on another forum recently to a "former BOD President" who got on people's nerves by constantly preaching "suing your HOA is suing yourself". This poster repeated this in every instance regardless of the situation or other reasons offered for suing an HOA.
To all of the above I will add the notion that this country's history is one where unrestrained tyrants/bullies with some power illegitimately attempt to usurp the property claimed by others and this oftentimes ended with some kind of rebellion or war. Ugly aspects of human nature i.e. power, greed and control do not go away by establishing LAWS and due process, but such behavior can be exposed and punished when identified by the guardians of our civilized society using the legal system.
Why consider denying any person an opportunity to bring abuse and criminal behavior into the light and censure the attempt to seek redress for the damage and turmoil caused by the perpetrators? The cost is greater because part of one's assessments goes toward opposing counsel--but it is the cost of doing the business of restoring order.
And, there is a collateral benefit to ALL members who may find a measure of protection by virtue of ONE person who attempts to stop the tyranny, discrimination and abuse. If it costs me $150-200 per year to finance (not an unrealistic estimate of legal fees) an SLohA lawsuit against my friends and neighbors--I will GLADLY pay it and hope that it provides a measure of assurance that SLohA will not come after ME someday with a discriminatory lawsuit because they don't like "people like ME"!
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Post by 2 The Last Drop on Jul 10, 2014 17:54:36 GMT -5
The FACT is that the law matters...this country has LAWS to maintain order in our society... This country was founded on principles of fairness to all--not just to HOAs...Your Deed promises to ALL that you will defend your title against anyone or anything that would eliminate or diminish your property rights...your argument about "suing yourself" is sophomoric and not compelling enough to overcome a moral obligation to defend your civil and property rights.
REMINDS ME OF AN OATH TO DEFEND AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FORIEGN AND DOMESTIC. ANYONE THAT HAS BEEN IN IT WOULD NOT ALLOW AMERICANS TO GO AGAINST OTHER AMERICANS. THEY DO NOT HAVE A SENSE OF RIGHT OR WRONG, THEY DO NOT RESPECT THE COUNTRY FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
OFF WITH THEIR HEADS
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Jul 10, 2014 19:05:27 GMT -5
Many of us intelligent owners in here already know that this manager, management company and this piss-poor excuse for board members all lack ability to reason as well both common sense and logic.
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Post by slanty on Jul 10, 2014 20:03:24 GMT -5
And this is why our Board President stood tall and called out: "You are ALL vigilantes." To a group of WW I I vets and their wives in the H all of the Administration building this past February. He is exonerated and held in high esteem for his great courage and wisdom. We could have been attacked right then and there by this ruthless band of 85 to 93 year olds!
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Jul 10, 2014 20:50:07 GMT -5
The FACT is that the law matters...this country has LAWS to maintain order in our society... This country was founded on principles of fairness to all--not just to HOAs...Your Deed promises to ALL that you will defend your title against anyone or anything that would eliminate or diminish your property rights...your argument about "suing yourself" is sophomoric and not compelling enough to overcome a moral obligation to defend your civil and property rights. REMINDS ME OF AN OATH TO DEFEND AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FORIEGN AND DOMESTIC. ANYONE THAT HAS BEEN IN IT WOULD NOT ALLOW AMERICANS TO GO AGAINST OTHER AMERICANS. THEY DO NOT HAVE A SENSE OF RIGHT OR WRONG, THEY DO NOT RESPECT THE COUNTRY FOR WHICH IT STANDS. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS
That is exactly why they have been referred to as "terrorists".
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Jul 10, 2014 20:52:43 GMT -5
And this is why our Board President stood tall and called out: "You are ALL vigilantes." To a group of WW I I vets and their wives in the H all of the Administration building this past February. He is exonerated and held in high esteem for his great courage and wisdom. We could have been attacked right then and there by this ruthless band of 85 to 93 year olds!
Every time ole prez there opens up his big mouth it is to insert both feet.
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Post by Dirty Laundry on Jul 11, 2014 7:31:57 GMT -5
And this is why our Board President stood tall and called out: "You are ALL vigilantes." To a group of WW I I vets and their wives in the H all of the Administration building this past February. He is exonerated and held in high esteem for his great courage and wisdom. We could have been attacked right then and there by this ruthless band of 85 to 93 year olds!
Every time ole prez there opens up his big mouth it is to insert both feet.
It comes with the position, I have personally seen the last 4 prez's do that and do it habitually.
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Post by BagLady on Jul 11, 2014 8:53:13 GMT -5
New Recreation scheduled for 2014-15 Season: CANE-FU Classes Attachment DeletedTo be held on 1st and 3rd Weds of each month from 9-10am immediately preceding Board Meetings. To be conducted by your CaneMistress, IT. (Donations gladly received but will not be accounted for.)
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Post by reader on Jul 11, 2014 9:32:33 GMT -5
*Classes may be subject to "EMERGENCY CANCELLATION"
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