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Post by Dick Tracy on Mar 25, 2015 19:16:55 GMT -5
What did T. H. do for a living? Did he work for Cormick, picking Fly Specks out of Pepper ?
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Mar 26, 2015 9:58:55 GMT -5
What did T. H. do for a living? Did he work for Cormick, picking Fly Specks out of Pepper ? T.H. worked at a "Tannery", his job was biting the bungholes out of cowhides. It was an "All you can eat" job with minimum wage. And if you recall, they say, YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT!
that's right T. H., we are all laughing at you and your schoolboy antics.
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Post by Admin on Mar 31, 2015 15:10:46 GMT -5
From the March 18, 2015 Unofficial Minutes:
Getting back on topic...the above Board Blab is a made-up excuse that ignores reality. It is also a "Gotcha!" because there is NO requirement to publish an agenda under either FS720 or FS617. No Agenda--NO Comments Allowed! And, if the meeting is adjourned and comments are tolerated as post-meeting chitchat, they are not documented into the business record and therefore DO NOT EXIST! Gotcha!
While SLohA was under Covenants and believed itself to be a MANDATORY Homeowners association, the provisions of FS720 prevailed. It was true that there were parameters on Members' speaking at board meetings on designated items (whatever that was interpreted to mean). These provisions were changed frequently by legislators and were seen by consumer organizations as being progressively homeowner unfriendly over time.
There are NO SUCH PARAMETERS in the not-for-profit corporate law, FS617, which SLohA is currently regulated by. Florida law requires that an association be MANDATORY (among other things) before it can be governed under FS720. SLohA is not and cannot be a mandatory association without Covenants. Without statutory recognition as a homeowner association, it is a corporate association governed by FS617. (Unfortunately, there is no provision in FS617 that states the directors must read and understand the statute they are governed by, so we are left with directors who may not even be aware of what laws now govern their corporate behavior and spout off irrelevant and erroneous "rationale" for their policy on owners speaking at meetings.)
Being regulated by FS617 means that the Board can adopt any policy it wants on Members speaking at meetings. They are not constrained by any statute. They currently are hiding behind a meeting How To guidebook which is not a law.
As an aside, I do agree that it is reasonable to provide directors with a couple days notice on issues that they are not familiar with in order to give them a little time to research and respond intelligently to an owner concern. Do I believe that this will actually be implemented?--NO. There was NO SOP adopted and no acknowledgement that this Association is now regulated by FS617. Based on a pattern of ignoring Owner correspondence it does not want public, I believe this is a hollow olive branch to members for shutting them out of the business process. This board will refuse to address any question that is uncomfortable, unpopular, unfamiliar or deemed as coming from "those with a differing opinion".
As I recall over the past 5 years, there has been one departure from this practice of exclusion-the recent Bingo changes implemented by the new Bingo Chairman which can be directly related to Owner spoken and written concern. Even then, the board ridiculed and denigrated the Owner raising the concerns, which concerns had been raised many times and dismissed by the 9 WiseGuys. The new Director/Chairman chose to listen and followup to discover the facts, thereafter making immediate and appropriate changes to comply with FL gambling law.
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