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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Feb 23, 2015 18:34:07 GMT -5
lra posted: THAT is part of the illusion of living in S-bag. The "Security Force" is, in reality, a mobile Lockdown Team and a visible "presence" only on the property giving the appearance of someone watching over you. The Security Patrol was renamed "Security Force" by the Mamager to enhance the illusion of enforcement and authority. The Patrol van was renamed "Surveillance Van" by the Mamager and bright lights began to beam into certain Owner's homes at night, causing inconvenience and intimidation "YOU are being watched!". Do I like having "Security" patrol in SLR? I USED TO like it until the dawn of Teary Hayvn's zombie-like fealty to the Mamager's agenda. Now I am fearful everytime I see the van; is Teary driving? Will he suddenly veer in my direction as I walk my dog? What will that loose cannon do next? Perception is Reality even when the facts speak otherwise. In fact, the mobile Lockdown and Visible Presence Team has NO more enforcement authority than any other Owner in S-bag. And that is NONE! Here it is, those who feel secure with security, go right on ahead. All of them are decent people (except one of them whose name we wont mention, but you all know who we are talking about!) on the park security team in which we as Saddlebaggers employ, that's right WE as a community pay them. They are not employees of Scambaugh Inc. They are NOT the Mamagers personal goon squad. They do NOT secure nor do they Police the residents or renters.
Don't believe me? Just give a call to the Polk County Sheriffs Deputy office, or call Lake Wales Police Department, OR you could call Florida Department of Law Enforcement and they will give you the skinny.
Here is what PCSD told me in person, along with *LWPD & *FDLE (*over the phone) " Your park security HAS no authority, their job is to only secure the front gate after business hours and on weekends. The other part of the job of security in your park, is to lock and check locks and the water/wastewater plant." "Other than that, WE (PCSD) maintain the Law in your area".
I can see the need for those services, I try to meet the security van with a wave and a smile when I see them. They are doing their job and I thank them all (well, except for one of them whose name I wont mention. But we all know who I am talking about!) for that. I recognize who is on patrol and see they are my community members and know that they will treat people as they would want to be treated...FRIENDLY. I mean, if we don't all get along with security then management could terminate ALL in park security positions and then hire a fully licensed & bonded security firm, of course costing us much much more in operating expenses and thus, show a need to once again raise the fees to include a uniformed and legally badged & bonified security team.
We wouldn't want that....or would we?
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Post by Lra on Mar 1, 2015 12:09:13 GMT -5
On Thursday, while we were in Orlando at Mediation we arranged for someone to stay at our home. Good thing we did. Someone on a dark green golf cart approached our home from the greenway, stopped and began to exit his cart. All of a sudden he encountered the person protecting our home. A polite exchange on the weather occurred and uninvited, unidentified man left in his dark green golf cart.
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Post by Lra on Mar 1, 2015 12:24:04 GMT -5
On Friday, Gngr and I had two unsolicited visitors needing to interview us. One was a Detective assigned to investigate the cross burning and hate crime issue. The other a journalist who follows police hate crime reports. We are terribly uncomfortable that any of this ever reached this point. We want this whole mess to be behind us.
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Mar 1, 2015 17:55:03 GMT -5
On Thursday, while we were in Orlando at Mediation we arranged for someone to stay at our home. Good thing we did. Someone on a dark green golf cart approached our home from the greenway, stopped and began to exit his cart. All of a sudden he encountered the person protecting our home. A polite exchange on the weather occurred and uninvited, unidentified man left in his dark green golf cart.
Maybe this uninvited, unidentified man was the "raccoon" that was on your back porch a few nights ago-- in the middle of the night w/a flashlight.
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Post by courious on Mar 2, 2015 6:57:14 GMT -5
On Thursday, while we were in Orlando at Mediation we arranged for someone to stay at our home. Good thing we did. Someone on a dark green golf cart approached our home from the greenway, stopped and began to exit his cart. All of a sudden he encountered the person protecting our home. A polite exchange on the weather occurred and uninvited, unidentified man left in his dark green golf cart. Who are the true enemies of S-bag? I would say they are the ones who were easy to anger, created a distorted view of the ladies at 66 Silversides and then put into action both verbally and actually meanness against them. If you believe in a kinder, gentler S-bag then give it up and encourage your neighbors to give up the anger and unfriendly attitudes and opinions against all three women. Extend a hand, give a smile, welcome conversation . It won't hurt anyone and will help everyone. Be brave. Be bold. It is time for letting go.
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Post by Janice Kennedy on Mar 4, 2015 13:18:02 GMT -5
I can't imagine the inner strength you girls have, that allowed you to get through and stand up to so many hateful, selfish, inconsiderate, and deplorable people this past year, who have put you both through this hell on earth. As a new owner, I am absolutely disgusted by the way these two women have been treated by so many cowards. This has turned into nothing less than an act of terrorism, and hate crimes. To all the people involved, the ignorance you have shown at the very least by some of you that would get up from the table when one or both the girls went to sit by you, to the person that burned the cross, to the woman that called one lady evil, at the very least should be ashamed by your actions, and should be on your knees hoping your God forgives you for what you have done to these two seventy year old women. I wonder how all your children and grandchildren would feel knowing their parents would stoop into that level of hate and discrimination. Anyone of you involved in this disgusting matter should be escorted right out of this park. I believe that most of the good people in S-bag if they had known the truth would have helped these girls any way they could, so the girls would know they weren't alone. I wish you both the best of luck, if you decide to stay or leave S-bag.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Mar 4, 2015 15:30:11 GMT -5
Janice well stated, my hope is that in time we will have change in our community. Change comes at a very slow pace to some elder statesman. But our leaders need to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. The Fear Mongering by some on our Board only adds more fuel to the fire. Those Board Members need to seek the courage to make public amends.
Janice, Thanks for Speaking Out,
J im 16RC
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Post by observer on Mar 4, 2015 15:57:59 GMT -5
You know, Janice is right, Folks. I have never been known to treat people badly based on a difference of opinion. Some/many of you will never accept the fact that M. e. l. signed the paper to allow our home to be built (of, course we have her signature) and into the park IN Daylight, about 12:06 p.m. (at least that is when the picture of her standing next to it is). Many of you will not believe we are for revitalization (we disagreed with the consent form based on our attorney's advice). S-bag needs rules and covenants that are current with our doublewides etc. We all will benefit from rules. Now it must come down to doing it in an unbiased way.
How ever, did Lra and I get EVIL over trying to guide the BOD into doing it correctly? Did you know before the four lawyers from the BOD spoke, Lra handed them a paper that said the consent was wrong and how it was wrong. Finally our attorney told them and they got it. For disagreeing with the BOD masses, we got EVIL. Please, someone, tell me the logic in that.
To me, evil, is the man who put his two preschoolers in a cauldron of molten iron, I had to work with for my profession OR the schizophrenic who killed her baby to keep him safe from the voices. I helped the lady who was brutally raped and the child who was beaten nearly to death. When J.W. called me evil, that is where my mind went. I have tried for years to put all that stuff out of my mind, but the shock of it came tumbling back. Later, I wanted to tell her that she doesn't know evil up close and personal like I do. Most of you don't, but many of you do and I am sorry you have those awful memories.
NOBODY IS EVIL in here that I know of. I may dislike someone, (I won't even spend the energy hating) but I treat them with respect or ignore them, and you should to, that is the mature and Christian thing to do. So, if anyone has the gall to call me evil again, you can kiss my backside. Gngr Astn
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Post by observer on Mar 5, 2015 15:00:49 GMT -5
OK, Saddlebaggers, here is the cH allenge: all you folks who say you love S-bag need to put the upheaval we have all experienced behind you and quit talking about it. Your truths are you own and apparently by now, nobody is going to change your minds or mine; whichever side you stood on. We all have a cH allenge to come together behind revitalization to do it correctly. Once the 1986 and 1989 amendments are decided by the court to be valid or not valid, we all need to get the package ready to send to Tallahassee. Now, some people will do it one way, and some another, but whichever way it is done, don't sit there and bitch about the other way. Just let it go. You are all acting like junior high school people who have to vote exactly like your friends. You have been living in a "group-think" way i.e. my friends are right and you and your friends are evil/bad/dumb etc. Get out of the group-think and into your own head and standards of behavior. You will never win anyone by condemning, cH allenging, threatening, or shunning. Each of us believes our own truths with or without facts. Honest facts are not what you all want, you want to believe as your friends believe. That is juvenile for adults who are supposed to think for themselves. And when did it become alright to be rude to people??? I wasn't raised that way, and I doubt if you were either.
If you truly believe and love S-bag, make it a place to love. Be kind to one another. Honor the other person's truths even if they are not yours. Damn it, be good girl scouts and boy scouts and put it behind you. It is all over but the revitalization. Let's get on with life. Gngr Astn
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Post by Anita Gofradump on Mar 5, 2015 22:03:05 GMT -5
Aw, shucks, Gngr,v you're too polite; I would've told them to kiss my rosy red rectum... NOBODY IS EVIL in here that I know of. I may dislike someone, (I won't even spend the energy hating) but I treat them with respect or ignore them, and you should to, that is the mature and Christian thing to do. So, if anyone has the gall to call me evil again, you can kiss my backside. Gngr Astn
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Post by Guest on Mar 6, 2015 10:33:27 GMT -5
Aw, shucks, Gngr,v you're too polite; I would've told them to kiss my rosy red rectum... NOBODY IS EVIL in here that I know of. I may dislike someone, (I won't even spend the energy hating) but I treat them with respect or ignore them, and you should to, that is the mature and Christian thing to do. So, if anyone has the gall to call me evil again, you can kiss my backside. Gngr Astn
OH my.... I just snort laughed coffee all over my keyboard when I read your comment Anita!! That was too funny!!
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Post by observer on Mar 6, 2015 16:34:24 GMT -5
Let's be friends, let's let it all be done and over. Why are some of you beating a dead horse? Nobody's mind will change, so let it go. Identify who is hanging on to the hate and see what is really bugging them or don't they have anything to do? A lovely friend of ours was told she had to choose between the gang she hung out with for 8 years or us - she could not be friends with us. They, of course, are dictating who she can and can't be friends with. What do you think of that?
Anyone still hanging on to the hate has a personal problem, and it is not Lra or Gngr. There is no news from this end so anything more to talk about has to come from the BOD supporters. If you love S-bag so much, imagine the people listening to you running someone down at the pool. Will they think this is a wonderful place or a place full of catty people?
JUST LIKE POLITICS - - LET IT GO!!!!
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Post by Expose on Mar 6, 2015 17:40:41 GMT -5
Your friend has 2 true friends, the gang, have put conditions on their friendship, a true friend does not take that road. I Say, Live & Let Live !
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Post by gusto on Apr 1, 2015 18:27:23 GMT -5
What is up, do we now have New SLR Stickers::: SLR Love It or Leave It !
Are these rogue stickers, or is this a Private Booster Club approve new sticker?
My hope is that I miss understood the information about New Stickers...
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Post by Expose on Apr 2, 2015 18:22:24 GMT -5
How about: "SLR Love It Or List It!" (a little kinder, gentler version)
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Post by sassy on Apr 2, 2015 19:08:35 GMT -5
you ppl need to get your act together. The bickering is over so why can't we love each other-----again
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Post by courious on Apr 3, 2015 9:03:04 GMT -5
What is up, do we now have New SLR Stickers::: SLR Love It or Leave It ! Are these rogue stickers, or is this a Private Booster Club approve new sticker? My hope is that I miss understood the information about New Stickers... Must be a lot of people are not lovers of SLR as they couldn't get out of here fast enough after realizing Revitalization was put on hold and SLR lost at Mediation. Many leaving well before their usual targeted date and it wasn't associated with an early Easter. I know we moved out because of all the turmoil. All my wife and I can suggest is that the Board reach out to all home owners in positive ways and set a good example for others.
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Post by Admin on Apr 3, 2015 10:41:29 GMT -5
sassy posted:
Just a couple thoughts--seems obvious to me there was never love for each other in S-bag so what does "again" mean to you? What changed? Maybe you mean "common decency, tolerance and civility"? "Loving each other---again" is a nice thought and ideal, but loving people don't publicly act out hatred, harassment and intimidation against those with whom they might disagree when there has been a long-standing foundation of love and respect.
Board directors who sport a sticker on their car saying "SLR--Love it or Leave it" have no intention of getting their act together to stop the divisiveness and bickering. What Kum-Ba-Yah message does such a comment suggest about the mind, heart and motives of this board member (or ALL board members)?
More detail would be helpful in understanding your post. Could you be more specific about who are you addressing when you call out "you ppl". Is this ALL baggers or specific individuals? What would be the behavior desired by "getting an act together"--to cease bickering? (I have not heard any bickering for awhile. Maybe I missed something?)
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Post by sassy on Apr 3, 2015 12:14:46 GMT -5
As mentioned before we are long standing residents here and until the last few years we never experienced such hostility (for lack of another name) towards one another. It would be interesting to know where the new stickers Love it or Leave it and Love it or List it came from. Then perhaps we would know who is so unhappy. My address to you ppl are the ones who want to keep something going in the park. I truly hope the new board can bring some unity to all of us.
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Post by Admin on Apr 3, 2015 13:29:15 GMT -5
sassy posted: It must be upsetting for longtime residents who knew S-bag during periods of friendliness and goodwill. Like you, I have never before lived in a place where there is such hostility among neighbors.
It would, indeed be interesting to know who is producing these obnoxious bumper stickers but, in my opinion, it is more interesting to note who advertises such a hostile phrase on their personal automobile.
I am guessing that by "you ppl" you mean ALL people who actively stir things up--such as the ppl who produce obnoxious bumper stickers and the board director who displays one of these gems on his personal automobile. Sporting that bumper sticker suggests to me that the board has no intention of bringing unity to all of us.
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