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Post by StillTooEarlyYet on Jan 8, 2015 10:00:52 GMT -5
Jesus Christ people. Alright already. Grow up and stop gloating. Besides, you Hayvn't won yet, and even if and when you do win, if I were the Judge and I was reading this stuff I'd slap you children around just out of spite. You have no clue whose sleeping with whom in chambers, so watch yourselves and act like adults before you find egg on your face.
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Post by Admin on Jan 8, 2015 13:06:19 GMT -5
Still too Early Guest Post remains quarantined for two reasons:
1. Taking the Lord's name in vain
#1 Ms Admins says words she shouldn't say either--but not in an open public context! It is offensive and inappropriate
2. Reference to physical threat for others' voicing opinions
#2 Ms Admin is still supersensitive re the Paris terrorist act killing 10 journalists. Reference is in extremely bad taste.
3. Threatening to spread bedroom rumors
#3 Ms Admin's bedroom antics are no one's business but her own. Reference is offensive, inappropriate and in bad taste.
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Post by KeyLimeTwist on Jan 8, 2015 14:38:29 GMT -5
JC people. Alright already. Grow up and stop gloating. Besdes, you Hayvn't won yet, and even if and when you do win, if I were the judge and I was reading this stuff I'd side with the other side just out of spite. You have no clue the political connections going on behind the judge's chambers, so be careful not embarase yourselves. Be different than them
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Post by Admin on Jan 8, 2015 16:31:37 GMT -5
Key Lime Twist posted:
LOL ya gotta love 'em! This is very cleaned up version (bad spelling and poor grammar intact) of the quarantined post by Early Guest that was objectionable on several counts. This one managed to clear my Minimalist Quarantine Bar.
So, what the writer seems to be contributing here is that he/she believes that some people (presumably me and 66SS) are "gloating" about "winning the lawsuits". I'm certain that the writer is behind on his/her information. I am in continuous contact with my attorney and the lawsuits have neither been settled nor adjudicated. Nobody has won or is even close! What is there to gloat about! I'll gloat when I win AND the damages check hits my bank!
Political connections in Judge's chambers--now that is an odd way to re-phrase but perhaps it is more revealing of the writer's awareness of BOD shenanigans conducted behind closed doors and known only by the Privileged.
You don't have a clue what would embarrass me or anyone else! You only know what TH-eeny TH-iny matters embarrass YOU!
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Post by Key Lime Twist on Jan 8, 2015 18:33:05 GMT -5
You got it wrong again. This contributor is not one of them
Read the last line: "be different than them".
That's all.
Your over sensitivity to the content of post you quarantined, which is basically identical to the second post was something that would be expected from them. There was never any threat even suggested, and who said anything about Ms. Admins bedroom antics? Woa.
The message intended was simply: "be different than them"
Spewing the insults is below you.
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Post by Admin on Jan 9, 2015 3:17:58 GMT -5
To Key Lime Twister:
You are incorrect--spewing insults is not below me. I am human and I get angry at silly games and innuendoes that appear to be aimed at me personally from the likes of TH who has done this on several occasions in the past. I do not have to "be different from them"--I already am.
Just say what you need to say directly to the intended recipient and let's all have a grown up conversation.
Thanks.
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Post by Admin on Jan 9, 2015 12:59:44 GMT -5
To Key Lime Twist: Another day ... calmer nerves. I bit back too hard on you. I don't know who you are to personally apologize but I am sorry. S u e
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Post by observer on Jan 11, 2015 20:00:55 GMT -5
JC people. Alright already. Grow up and stop gloating. Besdes, you Hayvn't won yet, and even if and when you do win, if I were the judge and I was reading this stuff I'd side with the other side just out of spite. You have no clue the political connections going on behind the judge's chambers, so be careful not embarase yourselves. Be different than them Dear KeyLimeTwist, Your ranting sounds like sour grapes to me. Cannot accept defeat can you? Go ahead and assess us another $50,000.00 in legal fees this next year---all to feed your egos and stupidity. Just face the facts: Bad choices upon bad choices by the Board have created a very unfriendly atmosphere within S-bag. Nobody is "buying" the "We are a great Board and this is the best management company ever" crap.
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Post by KeyLimeTwisted on Jan 16, 2015 13:54:33 GMT -5
JC people. Alright already. Grow up and stop gloating. Besdes, you Hayvn't won yet, and even if and when you do win, if I were the judge and I was reading this stuff I'd side with the other side just out of spite. You have no clue the political connections going on behind the judge's chambers, so be careful not embarase yourselves. Be different than them Dear KeyLimeTwist, Your ranting sounds like sour grapes to me. Cannot accept defeat can you? Go ahead and assess us another $50,000.00 in legal fees this next year---all to feed your egos and stupidity. Just face the facts: Bad choices upon bad choices by the Board have created a very unfriendly atmosphere within S-bag. Nobody is "buying" the "We are a great Board and this is the best management company ever" crap.
To Observer and others. Key Lime is not your adversary. You understandably missed the point of what was originally intended to be a friendly message. Admittedly, the original was poorly worded and did sound somewhat offensive. And I am sorry for that. It was in response to several other threads and comments and was misplaced as a responsive thread to the "Over 55 restriction." The original message that was being offered was to beware of behind the scenes political/legal maneuvering, (known in the business as who's sleeping with whom), that go on in judges' chambers, on the golf course and over martinis. But my message, in retrospect, was understandably misinterpreted and incorrectly taken personally, quarantined and then mischaracterized. Thus the next message was "Don't be like them", i.e. Blacking out and then mischaracterizing information is not much different than the behavior that you all despise in your adversaries. I think that Admin understood that when she gracefully apologized. And her willingness to publicly do so reveals allot about her character and a better one than I Gunga Din. I should not have gotten involved nor offered my two cents. But by the same token don't be in such a rush to "shoot the messenger," at least not until after you've gotten all you can get out of them. In closing, the point intended to be made was that whenever there is money to be made, you are going to have secret, behind the scene deals being cut. It ain't over till the fat lady sings. Leave no stone unturned in your due diligence and discovery. Go beyond that of your own legal counsel and representative. There are known HOA cases in Florida where judicial conflicts, and other such maneuverings took place but were not learned of until after the fact. This becomes very costly for the litigant afterwards. (as was implied originally as egg-on-face) Have recently been connected with an individual who was involved in, took on and exposed judicial/HOA corruption. The connection was made through a third party currently involved in an HOA homeowner litigation. Not yet in possession of the case law and citings so it is uncertain exactly which counties are involved. Will be acquiring the case law along with the names of lawyers, judges and Associations/business that were involved shortly. Also, w/r to your up-coming elections and good sounding candidates with no real track record; as we have seen, And I'm sure you have as well, a candidate will show honesty, integrity and a real concern for all, and appear to be the best thing since sliced bread, until after elected and on the Board. Then the real agenda and true colors comes out. For some reason the power intoxicates and the drunken Tang begins speaking the sober mind. It's not always possible to thoroughly and completely vet anyone, especially during candidate question/answer style forum. The best way to determine someone's true colors is when they knee jerk in response to a perceived slight when none existed and was never intended. You guys have a good handle on things within and seem to be in good hands, well organized and in control of your own situation. Great work of informing and insisting on transparency. The outside is watching in. Just "be different from them" Good luck. |
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Post by Admin on Jan 17, 2015 9:09:19 GMT -5
Key Lime Twister: Yours was an eloquent and intriguing post. It is obvious that you are engaging in "grown-up conversation" and this is a breath of fresh air. The fact that you admitted to the regrettable aspects of the previous posts also speaks well to your character. I do not now believe that these posts were directed at me personally and am hopeful for a new foundation to build upon. I also hope you will continue to participate on the forum for the benefit of all. I am still digesting your comments; I welcome further conversation should you wish to PM me at movinsue@gmail.com I must disagree on this. A better way to determine true colors is how the miscue in communication is handled and fixed. We all make mistakes and misinterpret the mind and actions of others. It is what we do about it afterwards that is a more accurate yardstick of "character". I believe that understanding and tolerance can only progress with someone who will break out of the cycle of fear from which gossip and innuendo spring. I would be pleased to open that door to you. S u e Tg |
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Post by KeyLimeZest on Jan 17, 2015 13:44:45 GMT -5
Dear Admin/S u e
On peut parler? Au contraire, à mon avis, the afterwards is an after"thought", the dress and makeup,
whereas the initial impulse is instinctive, the true naked color
Both represent character
One is intellectual whereas the other is more primal
The initial message, as your knee jerk, was primal
the afterwards was dictated by our ulterior motives
The initial message was intended to be innocuous
The knee jerk revealed an unintended show of color
Woa said of antics t'are none of my business
Friend )
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Post by Admin on Jan 17, 2015 18:41:22 GMT -5
Key Lime Zest: We agree on some things. One point where I diverge is the contemporary meaningfulness of "primal response" as a true barometer of "character". I do not equate primal with civilized -in much the same fashion as that classic story Lord of the Flies speaks of civilization and savagery. Savagery has no useful overlay of "character" and social nicety has no value- ie savagery only seeks to serve the basic primal instinct to survive by Flight or Flee when one perceives threat.
We all retain a degree of savagery in our primitive brain and are hard-wired to first address survival when we perceive threats. This is not controllable; it is chemical. In this instance, my instinct was Fight. I have learned to control and modulate that primal reaction with an overlay of social repair tools i.e. apology, forgiveness, compassion etc. Through the continued exercise of considered choices how to modulate/repair the social fallout of a primal reaction, one builds "character".
I think that equating the primal with the social is an over generalization. We cannot divest ourselves of primal brain, but we can shape and manage the social consequences of that survival imperative in managing our responses to threat triggered by the social group.
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Post by courious on Jan 17, 2015 22:19:23 GMT -5
Key Lime Zest: We agree on some things. One point where I diverge is the contemporary meaningfulness of "primal response" as a true barometer of "character". I do not equate primal with civilized -in much the same fashion as that classic story Lord of the Flies speaks of civilization and savagery. Savagery has no useful overlay of "character" and social nicety has no value- ie savagery only seeks to serve the basic primal instinct to survive by Flight or Flee when one perceives threat. We all retain a degree of savagery in our primitive brain and are hard-wired to first address survival when we perceive threats. This is not controllable; it is chemical. In this instance, my instinct was Fight. I have learned to control and modulate that primal reaction with an overlay of social repair tools i.e. apology, forgiveness, compassion etc. Through the continued exercise of considered choices how to modulate/repair the social fallout of a primal reaction, one builds "character". I think that equating the primal with the social is an over generalization. We cannot divest ourselves of primal brain, but we can shape and manage the social consequences of that survival imperative in managing our responses to threat triggered by the social group. Wish to step into this intellectual debate and add that ALL species of life share the same denominator: survival. Bacteria, plant, vertebrae, etc. All eat (feed) have a life cycle and procreate it's own species. So primal responses to an outside entity moves a species into a cause and effect. It is simple physics. For every action there is a reaction. So goes "the pebble in the lake" theory. |
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Post by KeyLimeTwisted on Jan 18, 2015 0:38:36 GMT -5
Key Lime Zest: We agree on some things. One point where I diverge is the contemporary meaningfulness of "primal response" as a true barometer of "character". I do not equate primal with civilized -in much the same fashion as that classic story Lord of the Flies speaks of civilization and savagery. Savagery has no useful overlay of "character" and social nicety has no value- ie savagery only seeks to serve the basic primal instinct to survive by Flight or Flee when one perceives threat. We all retain a degree of savagery in our primitive brain and are hard-wired to first address survival when we perceive threats. This is not controllable; it is chemical. In this instance, my instinct was Fight. I have learned to control and modulate that primal reaction with an overlay of social repair tools i.e. apology, forgiveness, compassion etc. Through the continued exercise of considered choices how to modulate/repair the social fallout of a primal reaction, one builds "character". I think that equating the primal with the social is an over generalization. We cannot divest ourselves of primal brain, but we can shape and manage the social consequences of that survival imperative in managing our responses to threat triggered by the social group. Beelzebub, Likewise equating primal to savagery in this context is gimmickry Earlier it was suggested that the i nitial instinctive " Fight or Flight survival imperative" impulse together with the afterthought, " social repair tools, i.e. responsibility, accountability, (from in As Good As It Gets), apology, forgiveness, compassion etc." all represent character. A point not considered but well taken is, that what we perceive as a threat is an additional parameter to the character equation as well. (still confused how that original post ever Rooffled the "antics" feathers and how any threat was perceived) The Lord of the Flies story was my first classic read. I recall Simon and Piggy but not Rodger or Jack. In the story, the author presented different degrees of instinct and his "characters" were developed to different degrees as well. Interesting reference but not exactly sure how it was on point. So where exactly does your comfort zone end? Why Walsch? |
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Post by Admin on Jan 18, 2015 8:33:55 GMT -5
Key Lime: This has been an interesting dialog, for certain, but one that has strayed into non general-audience-forum territory. I have departed from my own rule to try to stay "On Topic" by my selfish curiosity about the mind behind the Key Lime posts.
Let's continue, if you like, with email exchanges. S u e
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Post by KeyLimeAppended on Jan 18, 2015 8:57:07 GMT -5
It was not as simplistic as equating the contemporary meaning of primal response as a true, and only barometer of character.
It alone is insufficient. Nor is it one or the other, i.e. impulse or the "social repair tools" we build, that can serve as a useful manometer.
There is common ground between us w/r to the process of building character
We don't all use those social repair tools with the best intentions or motives
Like the drunken mind speaking the sober Tang, the way we use those social repair tools at any given moment is influenced by the degree of intoxication our present condition has on us and/or the perceived importance of the audience being addressed.
Similarly, we've learned to hone those tools to serve our own selfish needs to get what we want, not always what we need in order to survive.
Some of us are just more sophisticated, eloquent and more shrewd than others, but in the end we are all from the same mold.
Unfortunately, we are not all Simon's.
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Post by KeyLimeZest on Jan 18, 2015 9:03:03 GMT -5
Key Lime: This has been an interesting dialog, for certain, but one that has strayed into non general-audience-forum territory. I have departed from my own rule to try to stay "On Topic" by my selfish curiosity about the mind behind the Key Lime posts. Let's continue, if you like, with email exchanges. S u e We just crossed posted at same time. Invite considered |
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Post by Mazel Tov withTwistofLime on Jan 18, 2015 10:08:53 GMT -5
Key Lime: This has been an interesting dialog, for certain, but one that has strayed into non general-audience-forum territory. I have departed from my own rule to try to stay "On Topic" by my selfish curiosity about the mind behind the Key Lime posts. Let's continue, if you like, with email exchanges. S u e
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What; anti-semite!
LOL,
That (-) perception was added to make a final point
It was just for fun.
No offense intended.
Don't expect this to be posted.
Invite considered
Friend
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Post by Admin on Feb 10, 2015 8:11:59 GMT -5
@keylimetwisted:
Any update yet on this case? (Do you know any other pieces of the case? I believe attorney will know of it with a few details provided.)
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