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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Nov 29, 2015 8:41:08 GMT -5
Feb 6, 2015 8:46:34 GMT -5 Alaska Jm Director/CEO SNAP said:
I have also retained the same Attorney to represent my wife and I due to my neighbor who has decided to file suit against my wife and I and is wanting (through his lawyer) $15,000 and all my holdings, property, bank accounts along with my retirement income. Basically wanting to financially ruin my wife and I to the point of causing such financial ruin and has therefore caused unprecedented pain and suffering and irreversible damages up to and including the destruction of our pursuit of happiness while also involving themselves in a similar MRTA case that is currently in litigation .
We have placed all of our trust and faith in our Attorney.
I will post the final outcome of this legal action brought against us, The Grnt household, for everyone to see in the hope that these suit happy people do not do the same thing to their neighbors on Silver Doctor Lane.
May the best Attorney win.
signed with truth and honesty
James & Carol Grnt
Since many returning folks have been asking me the outcome of my neighbor to the east of me suing me, I thought i would update.
The last I heard from my attorney on this case was that they are out of the country, state, county. I guess that covers it other than out of this world or out of their minds.
Things are at a standstill since my attorney would not abandon his "affirmative defenses". To further explain, the Sods have based their case on the fairy tale Rule Book that was put together by the Rule Book Committee but later the BOD admitted the rules are expired.
Mr. Sod was shouting "I'm gonna make you move your trellis" I'm gonna make you move your roof".....I'm gonna MAKE YOU MOVE YOUR ENTIRE HOUSE!" "Lets see how much money YOU have". Hence the Sods have filed in court to S u e my wife and myself for at least 15 thousand dollars each AND everything we own AND my pension for the rest of my life over my rain gutter breaking an imaginary plane by a whole 3 inches and is listed as ''trespassing'' on the documents served to us both.
My attorney has asked that this be wrapped up as soon as possible, but that was months ago. That's all there is to date but i will post an update when the Sods either move towards a court date or abandon the lawsuit. They had better hurry as we are enjoying spending all our grandkids' inheritance!
I'm still waiting, start with moving your arse first! Well, they did move to Silver Doctor...
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Post by Annonymous Environmentalist on Nov 29, 2015 11:03:02 GMT -5
Sounds like these 2 sod-heads suing you & your wife are extremely petty and Sm all-minded, especially over 3 lousy inches overhanging in the AIR--no less. Well, if it's any consolation, I already know for a fact that NO judge in Polk County is going to make you/your wife chop your roof off just to satisfy this obvious frivolous law suit. Sounds like you are dealing w/ two people that most definitely need to get a life, hopefully one that doesn't include them going after anyone else in here just because they get a hair up their asses to do so. That's just plain stupid!
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Post by Admin on Nov 29, 2015 13:07:59 GMT -5
Anonymous Environmentalist posted:
This is a grudge lawsuit. Nothing more. The Sodheads got real grumpy when the tree they "thought" belonged to the HOA actually belonged to the Grants--who--by the way, trimmed it back before even being asked to do so.
Surveyors do not do "aerial" surveys unless they are doing zero lot line homes. They only survey where structures meet the ground. This is a potential problem in S-bag because an "air space" intrusion, such as from a shed, carport, porch or home roofline, will not be identified by a survey and owners are subject to being harassed with frivolous and malicious lawsuits over a miniscule and meaningless "air space" encroachment. The patchwork of angled mobile home lots with new housing required to be set perpendicular to the road has resulted in many encroachments over air and property! Baggers have historically ignored these minor property issues in favor of being a good neighbor.
Here is what Polk County Land Development said about that:
In other words, as long as overhangs into airspace over easements do not impact the purpose or function of an easement, it is tolerated. It doesn't matter. So why does a 3" porch roof airspace overhang matter so much to the Suing Sodheads?
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Life is Tough ! It's even tougher when you're stupid ! Jhn Wayne J ohn Wayne
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Post by GTO on Nov 29, 2015 20:47:30 GMT -5
This 3" roof overhang lawsuit raises questions. Like why did Sodheads wait so long to complain about the roof? He lived with the 3" roof overhang for several years and suddenly decided to file a lawsuit over it?
What is the actual intrusion and inconvenience of a 3" roof overhang?
Why S u e over a trellis which is easily movable?
The roof overhang could have been banged back with a hammer if it was harming Souder's property.
Now, Sodheads has the property for sale with an active encroachment lawsuit!
How does he expect to sell it now?
Crazy Times in SLR !
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Post by Admin on Nov 30, 2015 8:48:05 GMT -5
GTO posted:
Crazy and bizarre. Another self-inflicted wound. Taking a page from the SLohA board Playbook? (Threatening members with Special Assessments and fear-mongering inadequate insurance coverage while at the same time seeking Owner approval to "revitalize" Covenants authority to abuse and tyrannize owners? IMO Members would be insane to give this or any future board any "revitalized" power to S u e another owner, assess even more money or give away more SLR common property to private businesses!)
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Aug 5, 2016 9:31:38 GMT -5
This 3" roof overhang lawsuit raises questions. Like why did Sodheads wait so long to complain about the roof? He lived with the 3" roof overhang for several years and suddenly decided to file a lawsuit over it?
What is the actual intrusion and inconvenience of a 3" roof overhang?
Why S u e over a trellis which is easily movable?
The roof overhang could have been banged back with a hammer if it was harming Souder's property.
Now, Sodheads has the property for sale with an active encroachment lawsuit!
How does he expect to sell it now? Crazy Times in SLR ! Got word from my Attorney Frd O'N eel (Attny) yesterday.....lil clayton DENIED! The court rules in J. Grants favor! More to come on the fool and his $ parting.....stay tuned.
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Post by Admin on Aug 5, 2016 10:52:14 GMT -5
Looks like Anonymous Environmentalist was right. This judge did not validate the Suing Sodhead's legal complaint and ordered no remediations or damages to the Complaining parties--the Suing Sodheads! All that remains is for the Judge to write the Final Order and award costs and fees. Given the fact that the Suing Sods were denied relief, my guess is that the Suing Sods are unlikely to get their expenses back. Just my opinion.
Below is a republish of a capsule overview of this lawsuit that was posted in Nov 2015; this is posted as a reminder to all in S-bag with grudges against their neighbors. They should heed this legal outcome and pursue all available remedies before filing a lawsuit!
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Post by jimherbst on Aug 5, 2016 19:14:13 GMT -5
As I read the assertion that your neighbor has "tolerated" the roof overhang for years, the first thing that came to mind was the legal principle of adverse possession. Generally, the disseisor must occupy the encroachment continuously, openly and notoriously for at least seven years in order to claim title to the property in question.
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Aug 5, 2016 19:31:53 GMT -5
As I read the assertion that your neighbor has "tolerated" the roof overhang for years, the first thing that came to mind was the legal principle of adverse possession. Generally, the disseisor must occupy the encroachment continuously, openly and notoriously for at least seven years in order to claim title to the property in question. And they obviously have not, will not or can not. This was just nasty people doing what nasty people do. It's silver doctor problem now
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Post by jimherbst on Aug 5, 2016 22:44:11 GMT -5
While taking a course in real estate law, we studied a case in Pennsylvania where the absentee owner of a vacant lot did nothing to maintain it. The homeowner adjacent to this vacant lot grew sick of the weeds and assorted junk that had accumulated, so he took it upon himself to clean it up, mow it and landscape it. The neighbor continued to maintain the lot for nearly 21 years. As the subdivision slowly developed, the absentee owner finally decided that the lot had increased in value enough for him to sell it at a handsome profit. The neighbor, however went to court claiming that all the years he maintained the lot gave him title to the lot by right of adverse possession. The court agreed with his claim. The more common adverse possession cases involve the location of a fence. If a homeowner builds a fence that is encroaching on his neighbor's property but the neighbor fails to do anything about it, he may ultimately lose the area enclosed by the fence by adverse possession.
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Aug 6, 2016 9:06:38 GMT -5
As I read the assertion that your neighbor has "tolerated" the roof overhang for years, the first thing that came to mind was the legal principle of adverse possession. Generally, the disseisor must occupy the encroachment continuously, openly and notoriously for at least seven years in order to claim title to the property in question. Sounds like something my Attorney will use in the counter suit. Thank You!
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Aug 24, 2016 9:36:32 GMT -5
Sodheads v Grnt: Case No. 2015CA-000165
Background:
In Oct 2015, Sodheads, my adjacent neighbor, attempted to assert ownership of my tree which they mistakenly thought was on their property. According to Sodheads, the tree partially obstructed the view when exiting the driveway. When I heard about their complaint to the board requesting permission to remove the tree, I immediately contacted the Sodheads by email and informed them it was my tree. I immediately trimmed my tree.
However, Sodheads insisted the tree belonged to them and paid for a survey in an attempt to prove me wrong. The survey showed that the tree was, indeed, on my property.
Incidentally, the survey revealed an aerial encroachment of my porch’s roof eave by 3” over Sodheads’ property line. Rather than talk to me about a resolution to the minor aerial encroachment and, despite no objection by Polk County, Sodheads decided to S u e me for everything I own or will ever own including my retirement pension, relocation of my home and all that I have worked for all my life. At one point, Sodheads wanted me to pay their assessments and other costs in excess of $10,000 in exchange for settling the complaint. I refused.
The course of the lawsuit came to a standstill during revitalization because the Covenants and Rules, upon which Sodheads’ based their complaint, were non-existent.
Upon DEO approval of the Covenants (only), the Sodheads’ renewed their pursuit of me.
There was nothing I could do about my roof eave because it preceeded my arrival in S-bag, as well as Sodheads' arrival. To alter it would be unsightly and possibly result in consequential damage to the structure. The porch and roof was never county-permitted by the previous owner and the Sodheads had lived with the unrecognized encroachment for almost 7 years before suddenly deciding that they should S u e me over it.
In addition to suing me to move house/porch, the Sodheads’ also sued for return of their legal costs based upon the following covenants and regulation:
Ruling:
Judge said Covenants & Restrictions are a contract and made no reference to Rules/Regs adopted by the Association after the contract is made. Rules and Regs are not part of the contract between owners and HOA unless the CCR’s expressly incorporate future rules. In other words, the rationale the judge used to rule against Sodheads ie that the rules and regulations the Association makes are not part of the "contract" lot owners obligate themselves to when buying in S-bag. In a future dispute, SLohA will be pushing uphill in any legal actions against owners who purchased their property and agreed to the CCR’s-- but not to any rules adopted thereafter.
The Sodheads’ lost. S-bag lost its hopes of getting its legal costs back in lawsuits involving rules now and in the future.
The Judge awarded $1300 in costs of bringing the documentation into court such as the court cost, sheriff’s service fee and the survey. However, the Sodheads’ did not recover their lawyer’s fees of $7500 to which they claimed to be entitled under the Covenants.
Sodheads’ spent $8800 to get a judicial declaration that my porch roofline is 3” over their property line. I do not need to move my home or alter my porch roof. Sodheads’ has the right to put a lien on my house which cannot be executed while it is homesteaded.I have no plans to sell my house or relinquish my homestead status.
I want to give a shout-out to SNAP which assisted with the lawsuit. As many of you know, my lawyer is a board director for SNAP and will assist Baggers with HOA problems. While this was not a direct dispute with the HOA, the defense has implications to ALL Saddlebaggers!
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Post by Admin on Aug 24, 2016 11:04:58 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Aug 24, 2016 23:08:56 GMT -5
The Suing Sodheads have performed a great service to Baggers and I would like to give a shout out!
Here are some of the many benefits that their $8800 expenditure has provided SLR owners:
1- They have demonstrated why it is important to get a property survey when buying S-bag property. There are MANY existing benign encroachments in the park and caution is appropriate.
2- They have exemplified the adage "Let the Buyer beware". Since the Judge did not require the Grants to "cure" the encroachment, despite a judicial rendering of the existence of the encroachment, the Sodheads' MUST now disclose this fact to all potential buyers in the future to avoid an accusation of fraud!
3- They have showed --by negative example-- what kind of people are present in the community and that everyone in their proximity should be alert to their presence and the possibility of being sued over...nothing. Silver Doctor real estate just took a major dive in value. Don't be complacent when you purchase property in S-bag and check out the historical behavior of your potential neighbors!
4- The judicial outcome settled an important question for the BOD--without SLohA having to spend $75,000 to S u e an owner to test the power of the Covenants. We now know that the Covenants are inadequate in their power to afford relief of legal fees when SLohA is party to a lawsuit. We now know that attorney fees are not recoverable when based on any Rules & Regulations adopted in the past or adopted in the future.
5- The Judge's rationale about express and specific language ie "strict construction" will be called upon for any future cH allenge to the problematic 1986 and 1989 amendments.
6- They have also given us an object lesson about purchasing SLR real estate without an attorney or title search. Buyers who simply accept quitclaim deeds will not be aware that their property has a marketable defect and/or lien unless the Seller chooses to disclose this fact.
Way to Go, Sodheads!
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