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Post by Admin on Oct 11, 2015 10:10:56 GMT -5
Board_Minutes Date: 10/10/2015 Seq: 1
AGENDA
Board of Directors Meeting
S-bag Lake Owners Association, Inc.
Wednesday, October 14, 2015
9:00 am, SLR Clubhouse
Call to Order
Invocation
Pledge of Allegiance
Roll Call
Approve minutes from August 18, 2015, Board Meeting
Approve Agenda
Clf Jnsn -- Vice President's Report
· Election of President
· Election of Vice President
Chap Click -- Manager's Report
Tummy Blkbrn -- Secretary
· Board Correspondence
· Bingo Report
· Communication Committee Report
Stv Suthrd -- Treasurer's Report
· August financials
· Motion for check signor
· 2016-2017 Budget
Old Business:
· Phone service at SLR office -- Technology Committee
New Business:
· Motion -- Approve placement of 2 benches in resort
· Motion -- Approve Organization Committee
· Motion -- Authorize SLohA Revitalization
· Motion -- Repair Recreation Room wall
· Lawn Contractors -- Stv Suthrd
· Brush/limb shredder -- Stv Suthrd
· Fees for storage lots and boat docks -- Stv Suthrd
· Bill of Sale/Lease Agreement with KCNetwork
Adjourn
Owner Comments
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Post by Admin on Oct 11, 2015 10:48:24 GMT -5
As most of you know who have been following business events, the Jan 2015 initial attempt at Revitalization failed due to an error which was made by the so-called professional law firm representing SLohA. The decision to do it again was discussed at the lawsuit Mega-Mediation in February 2015. The Revite package and Ballot has to be done over completely. (For the record, the law firm was advised, in writing, prior to the Revite Meeting, that the form had a fatal flaw and they/SLohA choose to go ahead anyway rather than correct the Ballot. It took lawsuits to convince them to do it right.)
BTW, they/BOD have mediated away 3 owner's right to cH allenge the Revitalization when it is submitted to the State of Florida. I had to laugh at this strategy. Someone will cH allenge it if it is not done correctly- it just won't be me.
A comment about this board; at least they are announcing via business format (Motion) that revitalization is desired by the Board and they have formed an Organizational Committee to effect the many detailed steps of the process. The last Board (mostly the same people) simply sprung it on owners at the December 2014 regular BOD meeting.
Also, a motion is NOT needed to either form an organizational committee or to attempt a revitalization but it serves as a record for future events related to this. I envision this future to include legal cH allenges unless this board opts to voluntarily NOT INDEX Non-Consenting parcels. That would be, if the previous Consent vote repeats itself, about 28% of the parcels in S-bag.
ANY OWNER can form an Organizational Committee and attempt a Revitalization of Covenants. This is not a function specific to a Board and requires NO BOD AUTHORIZATION. All one has to do is read and follow FS720.
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Post by Annonymous Environmentalist on Oct 11, 2015 11:26:52 GMT -5
I like the fact they are considering a brush/limb shredder for this park...a vital necessity that has been long overdue in coming.
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Post by Admin on Oct 11, 2015 15:59:11 GMT -5
I wonder if it will be used for the owners' benefit or for frequent de-limbing of our trees for the benefit of KCNet's signal?
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Post by Dick Tracy on Oct 12, 2015 12:13:58 GMT -5
Now this maybe a interesting topic........
· Bill of Sale/Lease Agreement with KCNetwork !
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Post by Admin on Oct 12, 2015 20:45:43 GMT -5
Warning: Rough reading ahead. Some thoughts about Board Presidents Then...and Now.
While it is true that election of officers is solely up to the discretion of the sitting board, the person designated to be a "titular leader" will be reflected upon by the Owners, who might expect to observe a special leadership quality in a board president.
That is an assumption without basis in S-bag for the past 5 years, at least.
In 2010, Reerookuh was designated as President when no one else would serve. Reportedly, Reerookuh was laughingly appointed, in absentia, by the other directors who thought it was hilarious. Reerookuh did nothing as a director and seemed proud of that. He has the distinction of having brought us his golf buddy, Bd Stmbug Ixx, who placed an inexperienced, unlicensed manager in charge of a very large budget and sophisticated infrastructure. Owners paid dearly for that in many ways. Reerookuh later resigned in shame following unauthorized conversion of SLohA common property (pool fencing) and the revelations of Board bald-faced lies about Lorenzo Parker.
And so the bizz baton was handed to Lws, who also publicly proclaimed his anticipation, on several occasions, of his coming retirement as a director from the board. He gleefully glanced at his watch at a board meeting and commented, "2 mos, 4 days, 6 hours etc until I am retired from the board haha..." I think he also had a tee shirt that echoed these sentiments.
Inexplicably, Lws was subsequently pressed into service as President, presumably to further the private interests of KCNetworks and its investors. During his tenure, he engaged in a one-man war on Lorenzo Parker, sending certified mail to all his SLR customers accusing Lorenzo of improper conduct--an unprofessional and reckless corporate act and an unfounded, cruel and scandalous lie. Lorenzo later sued SLohA and won. After a disastrous election where he attempted to force KCNetworks, down Owners' throats, he ignored the advice of SLohA attorneys and resigned "for health reasons".
Now comes his bosom buddy, D Brnd, to further entwine the KCNetwork privately-owned business into S-bag's HOA. Brnd publicly admitted converting SLohA owner money to the benefit of KCNetwork construction, administrative and legal expenses. With barely a mention to owners, Brnd and stab engaged Polk County to collaborate and sanction the presence of internet towers and a commercial business in S-bag on common and private property--contrary to the Deed Restrictions against commercial business inside S-bag.
Following the owners' revelation that Brnd's business associate, stab, was convicted and served prison time for bank fraud, Brnd publicly revealed that "business papers" documenting the supposedly long-standing association between KCNet and SLohA had been "lost" and would have to be done over.
With the October Board agenda item "Sale/Lease KCNetwork" under New Business, I think there is no longer any doubt as to the reason for Brnd's sudden resignation from the Board. I will put a name to my speculation--conflict of interest. Brnd once publicly protested that he had not made One Cent off KCNetwork, yet his house is littered with KCNetwork antennas and his golf cart has a 2nd home at 28GH. Brnd suddenly resigned his seat on the board July 30th and abandoned the Co-Application with stab--paid for out of owner funds-- to Polk County within hours of the appeal.
Harken! Here comes D's cohort who will carry on for the many sponsors of KCNetwork--Clf Jnsn. This is a man with an ugly track record and the dubious distinction of having driven Admin to extreme measures to shield Forum readers from his vile comments about his neighbors. (He made T Hayvn's brand of mindless comments look like a day at the beach!) Admin appealed to the Forum owners for IP information and a "fix" to prevent the likes of Clf Jnsn from having posting access while keeping the Forum "open" to responsible and reasonable people. Thanks to Clf Jnsn, Admin had to install a sophisticated Quarantine application on the Forum to screen all non-registered Guest comments. Forum software reported that the IP identification captured by Security on the Forum came from Red Quill inside the park over the KCNetwork.
This is also the man that, as a fellow band member performing at a public venue with another Saddlebagger, --and without any provocation-- publicly denigrated her calling her "evil" and condemning her, which brought her to tears. Imagine that, attacking a fellow Saddlebagger at a public social event in such a manner! Classy, Cliffy!
This is also the man who has a very loud voice and a self-righteous belief system about proper lifestyle (except his own) which shocked visitors to the office in Feb 2014 at a "Special Board Meeting" attended by the SLohA Attorney.
These specific words were overheard as spoken by Clf Jnsn "We need to teach those Lesbians a lesson."
The persons who were the target of such a statement never once proclaimed their lifestyle choice to others in the park; they lived peaceful, private and responsible lives and were well-liked by many folks. Four months later, SLohA filed a lawsuit on these Owners which SLohA lost, costing owners almost $70K.
Such a vicious statement clearly shows Jnsn does not treat owners equally and uses "proxy authoritative platforms" to express his own pompous religious and social idealogy. This is not a desirable quality in a board director, much less a board president.
Note to board: you might want to consider relocating the Board Room to somewhere less public, install soundproofing or muzzle overly-zealous and sanctimonious directors.
Am I saying "Don't elect Clf Jnsn"? Answer: Yes and No. NO- It's not my call. YES if any directors expect respect from Owners, they will decline affirming Clf Jnsn, if nominated. If they are marching in lockstep and avoiding the appearance of disunity, they might affirm him. We sH all soon see the true face of the Board.
What these directors do-they do with the certainty that owners will judge their collective desire to be led by a man who has shown a very cruel and ugly face, not to mention a close connection with another past president who is the Poster Child in the S-bag H all of Shame.
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Post by pestcontrol on Oct 13, 2015 10:33:19 GMT -5
Warning: Rough reading ahead. Some thoughts about Board Presidents Then...and Now. While it is true that election of officers is solely up to the discretion of the sitting board, the person designated to be a "titular leader" will be reflected upon by the Owners, who might expect to observe a special leadership quality in a board president. That is an assumption without basis in S-bag for the past 5 years, at least. In 2010, Reerookuh was designated as President when no one else would serve. Reportedly, Reerookuh was laughingly appointed, in absentia, by the other directors who thought it was hilarious. Reerookuh did nothing as a director and seemed proud of that. He has the distinction of having brought us his golf buddy, Bd Stmbug Ixx, who placed an inexperienced, unlicensed manager in charge of a very large budget and sophisticated infrastructure. Owners paid dearly for that in many ways. Reerookuh later resigned in shame following unauthorized conversion of SLohA common property (pool fencing) and the revelations of Board bald-faced lies about Lorenzo Parker. And so the bizz baton was handed to Lws, who also publicly proclaimed his anticipation, on several occasions, of his coming retirement as a director from the board. He gleefully glanced at his watch at a board meeting and commented, "2 mos, 4 days, 6 hours etc until I am retired from the board haha..." I think he also had a tee shirt that echoed these sentiments. Inexplicably, Lws was subsequently pressed into service as President, presumably to further the private interests of KCNetworks and its investors. During his tenure, he engaged in a one-man war on Lorenzo Parker, sending certified mail to all his SLR customers accusing Lorenzo of improper conduct--an unprofessional and reckless corporate act and an unfounded, cruel and scandalous lie. Lorenzo later sued SLohA and won. After a disastrous election where he attempted to force KCNetworks, down Owners' throats, he ignored the advice of SLohA attorneys and resigned "for health reasons". Now comes his bosom buddy, D Brnd, to further entwine the KCNetwork privately-owned business into S-bag's HOA. Brnd publicly admitted converting SLohA owner money to the benefit of KCNetwork construction, administrative and legal expenses. With barely a mention to owners, Brnd and stab engaged Polk County to collaborate and sanction the presence of internet towers and a commercial business in S-bag on common and private property--contrary to the Deed Restrictions against commercial business inside S-bag. Following the owners' revelation that Brnd's business associate, stab, was convicted and served prison time for bank fraud, Brnd publicly revealed that "business papers" documenting the supposedly long-standing association between KCNet and SLohA had been "lost" and would have to be done over. With the October Board agenda item "Sale/Lease KCNetwork" under New Business, I think there is no longer any doubt as to the reason for Brnd's sudden resignation from the Board. I will put a name to my speculation--conflict of interest. Brnd once publicly protested that he had not made One Cent off KCNetwork, yet his house is littered with KCNetwork antennas and his golf cart has a 2nd home at 28GH. Brnd suddenly resigned his seat on the board July 30th and abandoned the Co-Application with stab--paid for out of owner funds-- to Polk County within hours of the appeal. Harken! Here comes D's cohort who will carry on for the many sponsors of KCNetwork--Clf Jnsn. This is a man with an ugly track record and the dubious distinction of having driven Admin to extreme measures to shield Forum readers from his vile comments about his neighbors. (He made Teary Hayvn's brand of mindless comments look like a day at the beach!) Admin appealed to the Forum owners for IP information and a "fix" to prevent the likes of Clf Jnsn from having posting access while keeping the Forum "open" to responsible and reasonable people. Thanks to Clf Jnsn, Admin had to install a sophisticated Quarantine application on the Forum to screen all non-registered Guest comments. Forum software reported that the IP identification captured by Security on the Forum came from Red Quill inside the park over the KCNetwork. This is also the man that, as a fellow band member performing at a public venue with another Saddlebagger, --and without any provocation-- publicly denigrated her calling her "evil" and condemning her, which brought her to tears. Imagine that, attacking a fellow Saddlebagger at a public social event in such a manner! Classy, Cliffy! This is also the man who has a very loud voice and a self-righteous belief system about proper lifestyle (except his own) which shocked visitors to the office in Feb 2014 at a "Special Board Meeting" attended by the SLohA Attorney. These specific words were overheard as spoken by Clf Jnsn "We need to teach those Lesbians a lesson." The persons who were the target of such a statement never once proclaimed their lifestyle choice to others in the park; they lived peaceful, private and responsible lives and were well-liked by many folks. Four months later, SLohA filed a lawsuit on these Owners which SLohA lost, costing owners almost $70K. Such a vicious statement clearly shows Jnsn does not treat owners equally and uses "proxy authoritative platforms" to express his own pompous religious and social idealogy. This is not a desirable quality in a board director, much less a board president. Note to board: you might want to consider relocating the Board Room to somewhere less public, install soundproofing or muzzle overly-zealous and sanctimonious directors. Am I saying "Don't elect Clf Jnsn"? Answer: Yes and No. NO- It's not my call. YES if any directors expect respect from Owners, they will decline affirming Clf Jnsn, if nominated. If they are marching in lockstep and avoiding the appearance of disunity, they might affirm him. We sH all soon see the true face of the Board. What these directors do-they do with the certainty that owners will judge their collective desire to be led by a man who has shown a very cruel and ugly face, not to mention a close connection with another past president who is the Poster Child in the S-bag H all of Shame. The statement by C. Jnsn clarifies the two constant statements by two previous SLohA Board members. Chrly Mnc ' s statement that they were going to make an example of those two; and, Peet Brdun ' s statement that there wouldn't be a lawsuit if it wasn't for their lifestyle. Where does that leave us today? With a lot of people taken in by hidden motives of a closed Board. Now is the time to get SLohA back into the hands of the people with openness and workshops. Let's follow Jesus' words: "Forgive one another". "Love thy neighbor as thy self". We can do this. After all, we ARE S-bag.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Oct 14, 2015 15:09:51 GMT -5
A Brief Summary on Today's Mtg. Posted on Chug....
OWNER UPDATE, October 14, 2015 SLohA Board of Directors
Meeting Summary
· Clf Jnsn is elected President of the Board of Directors. · Jade Rite resumes her role as Vice President following her resignation as President due to a family health crisis.
· Bar bra murksberry is appointed Assistant Secretary/Treasurer. · Clf Jnsn, President, Jade Rite, Vice President, Tummy Blkbrn, Secretary, Stv Suthrd, Treasurer and Bar bra murksberry, Assistant Secretary/Treasurer are authorized as check signors for SLohA bank accounts and the safety deposit box with two signatures to be required on all checks.
· Mrl Kpp will supervise two requests for benches and landscaping in memory of Chrly Soule, Dick and Betty Myles and Jm Kpp. Funds for these projects are donated by friends, neighbors and family in honor of Chrly, Dick and Betty and Jm.
· The 2015-2016 Organizational Committee is approved. Committee members are Jean Pray, D Brnd, Stv Suthrd, leery listerine, Tom Booth and Chrls Schlz.
· The Organizational Committee is authorized to begin work to revitalize the SLohA Governing Documents.
This same day summary is not the official minutes of the SLohA Board of Directors meeting. It serves only as a brief and timely notice to owners of action taken. Official minutes will be released at a later date.
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Post by Admin on Oct 14, 2015 16:51:09 GMT -5
Dick Tracy posted: I thought more about "why" would the Board decide to "motion" a 2nd revitalization after having already started one back in Dec 2014 and periodically reaffirming its intent to revitalize. Why make an obvious restatement and an unnecessary motion?
However, this becomes a more interesting question when paired with the New Business intention to enter into a Lease/Sale contract with KCNetworks. Possibly, BOD is being advised by a cautious and forward-looking legal counsel to cover its tracks so as to avoid being subject to a provision of FS720 that provides for Owners' voting down a contract entered into by the Board. This is the provision:
This basically says All Directors must disclose any interest in the business with KCNetworks and interest must be entered in the Minutes AND that a contract must be disclosed to members at the NEXT meeting, which would be, if the professional law firm is ready with the paperwork, in November. At that meeting, Directors would disclose and vote on the contract. At the NEXT meeting--in December--Owners would have to be told about the existence of the contract. At the December meeting, ANY OWNER can motion that the contract be cancelled and, if a majority of parcels present at the meeting agree, the contract will be cancelled.
Additionally, specific conflict of interest DISCLOSURES are required by the corporate statute (partial provision below), as referenced in the Homeowner Association Act:
D Brnd had to resign his directorship for this contract to have a chance and avoid disclosure requirements. Are there any other directors that have a financial interest in KCNetworks that require disclosure to Members and Directors?
Not only that, the contract must be fair and reasonable (as might have to be judicially determined.)
So, how does this relate to the unnecessary Motion? I propose the motion serves to help legally shield SLohA against a legal complaint based on FS720.3033(2). By motioning, SLohA acknowledges and insulates itself against being subject to Covenants---because they are expired and a revitalization is being planned! If SLohA is not subject to Covenants-it is not a statutory HOA-and therefore not subject to the Homeowner Association Act FS720. So, the above contract voting provision would not be recognized.
In my opinion, the Membership should undertake the contract ratification vote anyway. To disallow owners the opportunity to vote would suggest acting in BAD FAITH by the board. They could duke it out later in court.
This Board may be attempting to circumvent the intent and spirit of the HOA statute by acting as a corporate board under FS617 during the absence of Covenants when they--and therefore FS720--are not factors in its actions.
This raises another fascinating proposition: Why would the Board want to revitalize if the presence of Covenants INCREASED constraints on its actions and provided INCREASED basis for civil lawsuits?
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Post by saddlebagger viewer on Oct 14, 2015 20:31:17 GMT -5
Has anyone lodged a complaint with the Florida State Attorney General's office regarding any of the information put forth here? Or is there any other governmental agency that handles owners' concerns?
If other people profit from these towers and we owners within S-bag are not compensated either individually or as an organization, then why must we assume the maintenance, repairs, insurance costs and liability for having a business within and on our common properties?
BTW read the information about Clf Jnsn. How are we as Saddlebaggers supposed to have respect for such a person? And how could a Board stand behind someone of such low moral standards?
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Post by Expose on Oct 15, 2015 0:05:59 GMT -5
The Web of Lies that have been told over the last few years by all parties, I simply do not believe they have the residents in their best interest. I hope the whole story is told one day.
Take time to check SLohA pockets, because we have been deceived by many!
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Post by observer on Oct 15, 2015 8:14:15 GMT -5
"...lies by all parties...." Not all parties were lying, but that is strictly for you to decide. You can always go to the parties and ask to see proof. But do that only if you seek truth.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Oct 15, 2015 10:00:40 GMT -5
Observer a mistake in stating "by all Parties". A poor choice of words.
The Web of Lies that have been told over the last few years by KCNet, some BODs, Management, and Counsel. I simply do not believe they had the residents in their best interest. I hope the whole story is told one day.
Take time to check SLohA pockets, because we have been deceived by many of our Leaders!
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Post by Dick Tracy on Oct 20, 2015 12:49:52 GMT -5
BOD Report as Posted on Chug.
Minutes Board of Directors Meeting, October 14, 2015
S-bag Lake Owners Association, Inc.
9:00 a.m., SLR Clubhouse
Draft- Pending approval, SLohA Board of Directors
Directors present: Tummy Blkbrn, Barb murksberry and Stv Suthrd were present in the clubhouse. Clf Jnsn, leery listerine, Chrls Schlz and Frns Sm all were present via conference call. A quorum was established. Also present were SLR Manager, Chap Click and Toneesha Shrodr, Accountant, Stmbug Ixx, Inc.
At 9:00am, Board Secretary Tummy Blkbrn called the meeting to order. After determining that Vice President Clf Jnsn was present via conference call, Clf presided over the meeting. Barb murksberry gave the invocation which was followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. Minutes for the August 18, 2015, Board of Directors meeting were approved. The agenda was approved with two deletions, a report from the Technology Committee on phone service at the SLR office and a discussion of a bill of sale/lease agreement with KCNetwork.
The election of a new board president was necessary due to the resignation of Jade Rite on September 21, 2015, due to a family health crisis. Bar bra murksberry made a motion that Vice President Clf Jnsn be elected as President of the SLohA Board of Directors to serve for the remainder of the term of office until the annual membership meeting on February 20, 2016. Tummy Blkbrn seconded the motion and following a roll call vote it passed unanimously.
With Clf Jnsn elected as president, it was necessary to fill the vacancy in the office of vice president. Jade Rite is willing to resume the duties she once held as vice president. Bar bra murksberry made a motion that Jade Rite be elected to serve as Vice President of the SLohA Board of Directors for the remainder of the term of office until the annual membership meeting on February 20, 2016. Tummy Blkbrn seconded the motion and following a roll call vote it passed unanimously.
Chap Click gave his manager's report which will be incorporated into the official minutes.
Tummy Blkbrn read correspondence addressed to the Board of Directors. • David Henry, 55 S-bag Trail, with questions regarding the internet towers. A response from Jade Rite, board president at the time the letter was received, was sent to Mr. Henry and was also read to those attending the board meeting. • Mrl Kpp, 17 Grey Fox, requested permission for benches and landscaping in greenways for memorials in honor of Chrly Soule, Dick and Betty Myles and Jm Kpp. • Mik Pherson, 10 Gngr Quill, asked the board to consider making a rule that people wanting music at the pool must listen to it privately using ear buds rather than broadcast through speakers unless with prior consent for a special event. Tummy Blkbrn asked owners to offer their opinions on the issue before any action is considered by the board of directors.
Tummy Blkbrn reported on the Bingo Committee's decision to delay the start of the Friday night bingo game until January, 2016, due to chairperson Dianne Redman's inability to return to the resort this fall. Shirley Beron and David Gates, SLR owners, will be bingo callers in January with Tummy Blkbrn in training as a substitute. Clf Jnsn suggested more volunteers be recruited for the Bingo Committee. Tummy thanked Alc Nttr and the Bingo Committee for their continued work.
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Tummy Blkbrn and leery listerine, both on the Communications Committee, updated board members on continuing efforts to add a new website for S-bag Lake Resort. A tentative meeting is planned inNovember with a presentation by Dan Barlow of TOPS Condo/HOA Management Solutions.
Stv Suthrd presented the SLohA financial report as of August 31, 2015. Stv made two motions for board action. • The appointment of Bar bra murksberry as Assistant Secretary/Treasurer to take over duties in the absence of either the Secretary or Treasurer. Tummy Blkbrn seconded Stv's motion and it was approved unanimously with a roll call vote. • It is necessary to update signature cards for SLohA bank accounts and the safety deposit box due to changes in some of the officers. Stv made a motion that President Clf Jnsn, Vice President Jade Rite, Secretary Tummy Blkbrn, Treasurer Stv Suthrd and Assistant Secretary/Treasurer Bar bra murksberry be authorized signors on all bank accounts and the safety deposit box for SLohA with two signatures to be required on all checks. Frns Sm all seconded the motion and with a roll call vote it was unanimously approved.
Stv Suthrd reminded board members that work on the 2016-2017 budget will begin soon and to get any requests to Chap Click so that bids could be obtained in advance.
In new business, the following action was taken. • The board of directors approved two requests for memorial projects in the resort with all expenses paid from funds donated to Mrl Kpp who will supervise the work in collaboration with SLR management and staff. Neighbors and friends of Chrly Soule provided memorial funds that the family want used for one bench to be placed with a view of the lake in the greenway between Wood Rooff Way and Beaverkill. Family and friends of Betty Myles and Jm Kpp donated memorial gifts to be used for a new concrete slab on a greenway on Gngr Quill. A new bench will be added with a roof installed over the slab in memory of Dick and Betty Myles and Jm Kpp. A tree will also be planted. Tummy Blkbrn made the motion which was seconded by Bar bra murksberry and approved unanimously with a roll call vote. • The board is required to approve the members of the Organizational Committee. Tummy Blkbrn made a motion that the following names be accepted as members of the Organizational Committee for 2015-2016. Jean Pray, D Brnd, Stv Suthrd, leery listerine, Tom Booth and Chrls Schlz. Stv Suthrd seconded the motion and with a roll call vote it was approved unanimously. • The SLohA Board of Directors approved the formation of the Organizational Committee and the selection of owners to serve on that committee. Tummy Blkbrn moved the Board of Directors authorize the Organizational Committee to begin work to revitalize the S-bag Lake Owners Association, Inc., Governing Documents. Chrls Schlz seconded the motion and it was approved unanimously with a roll call vote.
In other new business, the board reviewed two bids for repairs to the rear wall of the Recreation Room. Tkr Construction & Engineering,Inc. bid $34,890.00 using concrete block and stucco. Robber Dunn of CDR2 bid $13,000 using wood framing and sheetrock. Because of the disparity between the two bids in building materials and cost, concerns for expense of the repairs and other questions about the project, the board took no action. Chap Click will do further research with the two contractors and seek a third bid from another vendor.
Stv Suthrd suggested ifthe office notifies lawn contractors that yards in their care need mowing then owners of the property should be given a courtesy call that action is needed.
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Chap Click said he would implement an owner courtesy call in the office procedure for lawn maintenance in the resort.
Stv Suthrd commented on limbs and brush accumulating in driveways that aren't cut down to correct size for TT to pick up. He also mentioned a large brush pile in back that's the result of tree trimming by maintenance staff and suggested a future expenditure might be to rent a shredder to dispose of limbs. Chap has researched the cost of renting a shredder and using TT to pick up tree debris is less expensive.
Stv Suthrd suggested that the fees for storage lots and boat docks be reviewed in preparation for the 2015-2016 budget.
With no further business, the meeting adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Tummy Blkbrn, Secretary
Owner topics after adjournment. • Hrld Hglnd, 27 S-bag Trail -- SBA loan payoff status, ifassessments could be paid monthly rather than quarterly and a suggestion that assessments be debited closer to the first of the month to benefit SLR. • Madeline Conway, 104 Silversides - power outage in her area of the resort in the evening of October 13th. • Jm FoolDay, 87 Royal Coachman, - green mold on some houses in the resort. • Dick Dain, 20 Grey Fox, - the power loss and a suggestion that the resort coordinate with Duck Engerny to make sure that trees don't grow into the high voltage lines. • Frank Toedoeshuck, 23 Grey Fox, - if property owners would have the opportunity to vote for or against the tower situation. • T Hayvn, 30 Silver Doctor, - trees covering some of the street lights in the resort. Chap Click responded that maintenance staff has been doing extensive tree trimming throughout the resort.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Oct 20, 2015 17:00:52 GMT -5
Owner topics after adjournment. Oct. 14th
• Hrld Hglnd, 27 S-bag Trail -- SBA loan payoff status, ifassessments could be paid monthly rather than quarterly and a suggestion that assessments be debited closer to the first of the month to benefit SLR.
• Madeline Conway, 104 Silversides - power outage in her area of the resort in the evening of October 13th.
• Jm FooDy, 87 Royal Coachman, - green mold on some houses in the resort.
• Dick Dain, 20 Grey Fox, - the power loss and a suggestion that the resort coordinate with Duck Engerny to make sure that trees don't grow into the high voltage lines.
• Frank Toedoeshuck, 23 Grey Fox, - if property owners would have the opportunity to vote for or against the tower situation.
• Teary Hayvn, 30 Silver Doctor, - trees covering some of the street lights in the resort. Chap Click responded that maintenance staff has been doing extensive tree trimming throughout the resort.
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Note: The answer to Mr. Frank Toedoeshuck question was "NO" !
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Post by Admin on Oct 20, 2015 22:11:10 GMT -5
From Minutes of Oct Mtg: First, I have advocated for an independent community website from the gitgo. I never bought the rationale from Stmbug Ixx that KCNet was the official website "to save money". Probably because it does not cost anything to set up an independent website and because Stmbug Ixx said it. It was NEVER a good idea to have a community owner in control of official SLohA business postings and it has never worked. Postings are absent and/or not timely, user interface is extremely poor and it has been a pulpit for stab's rantings and sponsorship of libel for years. As a result, readership on CHUG is nearly gone as is any respect I have for Stmbug Ixx Inc's professional judgement.
Moving on...I suggest a question for the presenter: "Will the format of the website be "OPEN" i.e. not limited to TOPS?" (This would be like the exasperating problem of Microsoft cornering the market on certain of its applications that cannot be used by Apple computer users!)
TOPS is a very expensive, proprietary marketing/management software and SLohA would be smart to confirm that TOPS would not hogtie the future operation of the website to the TOPS format and determine the cost ahead of time of unlocking the software for future use by other applications--if possible. I suspect that TOPS might not be so easily exportable and that the content posted might be captive to continued subscription costs of TOPS choosing. This question needs to be answered in detail and not a marketing soundbite. This problem is exacerbated by owners who are not sufficiently informed to ask pointed technical questions. I suspect that TOPS might not be easily exportable to another application; hope I'm wrong because this "plan" sounds like a fait accompli. We should all keep in mind that the client is Stmbug Ixx/BOD. Owners are disposable income generators.
By contrast, THIS forum is FREE and is not tied to a non-transferrable file format; one only need pay a fee to export the content from this forum to another free forum of their choosing. You do not lose your content if you no longer want to affiliate with this forum. (Frankly, I am not sure why SLohA is not looking at a FREE forum. Free forums are flexible, have sophisticated support, professional features and can be easily exported. They are also very inexpensive if one does not want the ads.)
Also, another question, is TOPS Management Solutions's secondary (primary?) goal to be a fee-for-service bookkeeping service to generate income from Stmbug Ixx Inc? We already pay Stmbug Ixx Inc to take care of bookkeeping and collections. What will owners pay if software takes over this function? Will homeowners see a reduction in the Management fee? Internet payment processing should shave off a significant portion of Management Fee because it is electronic and requires little human hands-on processing.
Also, if SLohA is going to go to internet-based fee collections, can TOPS software differentiate between what may likely be the near future of money contributions in S-bag between mandatory assessments (of revitalized assessment parcels) and voluntary contributions (of non-assessment parcels)? Does it have the flexibility to "rewrite" the programming to handle the two types of revenue? I suspect that this possibility has not been considered in the mix and TOPS software might not be appropriate for S-bag for that reason.
In general, my opinion is to keep the accounting separate from the website. SLohA has enough of a cH allenge just getting current docs posted and now is planning to introduce a commercial middleman in the process.
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Post by Admin on Oct 20, 2015 22:23:57 GMT -5
It's about time that Chap appreciated that SLohA has NO authority to compel owners to perform lawn maintenance at all the owners' expense. The right thing to do is make a courtesy call to get voluntary compliance. If that fails, Call Polk County Code Enforcement and let THEM do the necessary cutting and put a lien on the owner's property. Management should NOT require Owners to pay to cut and trim weed lawns for a few careless/neglectful people! Good plan, Chap.
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