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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2014 20:33:10 GMT -5
PART 1 of 2
I am going to summarize in my own words the things discussed at the BOD meeting. It’s just too tedious to “transcribe” voices that ramble on and on and the poor audio conditions in the Annex.
KL began by saying that SLohA has overspent its budget on Legal Costs and says that we have “people with other opinions” to thank for this extra expense because the board can’t do anything right so they will continue to get an attorney’s opinion. Stated he posted the FL statute (720.309) as some background information and proceeded to read the attorney letter and the statute.
Said they didn’t have to put it on the budget—they could have just done it- they could have put it in the budget--but they thought it was only fair to put it on the ballot and let people decide. And he reminded everyone AGAIN that at no time in the proposal or on the ballot or discussion have they named WHO they are going to take the service from. They are soliciting bids. He understands they have an interested party but doesn’t know if its going to go through…and he’s not going to name them. As an aside, the Washington Post reported that the FCC had given permission to ATT to pull out all their lines for landline service and go strictly to internet for telephone service. So the internet is here to stay whether we want it or not and it’s coming and you’re going to have to have it in some form or another. Sooner or later-that’s just the way things go.
Audience member: if it is approved, we still have to negotiate a contract and that has to be approved to, right?? KL: Right.
Audience Member: Tries to point out a section of Florida statute (unclear what portion) that contradicts that KL just read. KL: <interrupting> “I just read what the attorney wrote. Member: but you are not reading this..<more insistent> KL interrupts again “We’re movin on thank you” Member: That is why you have all these lawyer bills because you don’t listen to people. We spend all our money on lawyers. If any one speaks you call them an idiot or a trouble maker. KL: “Are you an attorney sir?” Member: “You don’t have to be an attorney to read”. KL: You’re offering an opinion…<overtalking each other> KL: Please sit down. (KL can be heard speaking to someone in low tones in the background but the words can’t be heard.
OK Rulebook committee. Audience Member (female speaks clearly) “Excuse me”. KL totally ignores the audience member and called ML to report. We are calling all residents that are not here in the park and encouraging them to vote and make sure they received their ballot but parts of Canada have been so snowed in that they Hayvn’t gotten mail for two weeks so we are talking to them. Encouraged by people they talked to.
Audience Member (trying again to be recognized): “Can I speak please?” KL: <mumbling> "Go ahead". Member brought up the Statute again where it talks about Boards entering into contracts explaining that sometimes you don’t understand the British accent might have not been easy to hear and she read the section. ML said “It says…and read back the statute in a very loud and insistent voice “THAT’s the attorney’s opinion!” Member just said thank you and faded away…. KL: Movin on
Audience Member: "I have a question about the ballots; is it possible for those people to email or fax their ballots?" ML: " One person got an email ballot and card with instructions on the two envelope thing and has friends here to read him the inserts and he will vote and have to mail back the “email ballot” and signed “email card”. KL: Snow has really messed things up; he tried to call two insurance companies in PA and one was closed and the other was short-staffed so all the mail and everything is delayed.
PB Motion to approve survey and cost of survey for SR 60 replacement SLR sign $1,399. PB: Discussion of proposals and of who to hire to do the renewal of SWFMD Water Use Permit; comes down to staying with a known entity that SLohA has been working with for a few years, David Farabee $8,880.00 from Contingency Fund of Operating. PB: Tennis courts becoming hazardous. KL: I walked the courts and didn’t see mushrooms but lots of cracks-some so big you could fall in them-something needs to be done. Member: Problem comes up much too often and has been reading up on it-it’s the trees that are the problem and we should start thinking about replacing the tennis courts. We need 30K but we used to do it ourselves before this liability thing. It’s the roots. MK: Budget is too tight we have to revisit this for another time. Courts are only supposed to last 25 years and they are done. All the courts have 25-30 areas of concern even the newest ones. Trying to get repairs done by Tennis Tournament. One of the courts cannot be used and we might cordon it off for safety. Need to cut down trees or need a root barrier of some kind . MK: It makes the squirrels angry. PB Motion that mushroom growth under courts are creating unsafe conditions and must repair $1981.00 from Contingency Fund-Operating. All PB motions passed.
SS: Financials are at the office. We are under budget. Reserves 1.6 million. Financially sound. Reserves are always a concern and we need to keep putting money in there. People don’t understand Reserves and we need some education. They go up and down. Once you start Reserves you are mandated by law to continue them unless owners decide not to have them at an annual meeting. Audience Member: "Sewer/Water Reserves we have 8-900K and a replacement is 3.2 million. We are way underfunded." BOD: "We are funded per state law." Member: " I understand that but where would we get the extra money?" MK: <begins to answer question> Member <interrupts> “This is for the Board member.” MK: <continues to talk> Member: <<interrupts MK again “This is for the Board member, Mam". BOD member: We did a Reserve Study , Member: That is the one thing that will shut us down”. BOD: MK: decided to talk anyway and spoke slowly and ee-nun-cee-ated as if talking to a child “We did a complete reserve study in accordance...on and on <not answering question>.”. Member: "You put 130K in reserves for the Sewer Plant so we are short $60K. BOD: "You are arguing." KL: <dismissive> Thank you. Member: Thank YOU. BOD: Discussion on depreciation and real world vs textbook. We are in good shape. Rest of discussion makes very little sense and does not relate to the shortfall of Reserve money to Water/Sewer.
(Editor: When you listen to just the words and the voice inflections without room distractions, it is clear that this BOD would rather members not attend the meeting. KL is very dismissive and interprets questions and negative observations as argumentative. It was reported that 30/35 attendees were clappers. KL and MK achieved a new record in the number of speakers they were rude to.)
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Post by Still Waiting on Feb 5, 2014 21:58:44 GMT -5
I see KL has stated the BOD has gotten the written letter from the attorney. Myself and the other 19+ Members are expecting that Letter, Legal Office Letterhead and Lawyer/Attorney signature is what we want.
Not KL's retarded half baked bullshit .
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Feb 5, 2014 22:21:54 GMT -5
Once again KL has confirmed everyone's suspicions--he's became totally unhinged at this meeting also, making crap as he goes, going off topic, muttering, being nasty and rude to residents asking questions and wanting information.
That's just like he did w/the harassment letter from the woman he and other board members were stalking--and he admitted it. He never answered the woman he was stalking, while she was walking w/her dog under the oaks when she called out--they all ran away when she attempted to call out to them, but this idiot, KL took over 9 months to finally explain to the community why he was stalking a woman at night.
This was the time KL offered up his convenient excuse, well after the fact, that they needed foot patrols to stop some NON-EXISTANT vandalism in the laundry room, yet never said a word about any such vandalism--they seem to always use this excuse--yet, they NEVER said a word about anything like this happening in any of the manger's reports or the BOD meeting minutes.
Where's the police report?
Where's the pictures of SLohA's vandalized property in the laundry room?
How much did this cost to fix?
None of these things were ever offered up to explain why they terrorized a woman walking her dog at night, and why they didn't at least answer her to them know who they were and why they were there and if she saw anything suspicious.
This is the way you do foot patrols; these idiots knew damn well what they were doing and they were trying to terrorize a resident so they would pack up and leave.
Yes, Folks, this is your Board of Directors doing these things to the residents in here that are trying to tell the TRUTH AND BRING FACTS TO LIGHT--and expose them for who they are--which is a pack of liars!
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Post by Father Justice on Feb 6, 2014 7:06:02 GMT -5
PART 1 SS: Financials are at the office. We are under budget. Reserves 1.6 million. Financially sound. Reserves are always a concern and we need to keep putting money in there. People don’t understand Reserves and we need some education. They go up and down. Once you start Reserves you are mandated by law to continue them unless owners decide not to have them at an annual meeting. Audience Member: "Sewer/Water Reserves we have 8-900K and a replacement is 3.2 million. We are way underfunded." BOD: "We are funded per state law." Member: " I understand that but where would we get the extra money?" MK: <begins to answer question> Member <interrupts> “This is for the Board member.” MK: <continues to talk> Member: <<interrupts MK again “This is for the Board member, Mam". BOD member: We did a Reserve Study , Member: That is the one thing that will shut us down”. BOD: MK: decided to talk anyway and spoke slowly and ee-nun-cee-ated as if talking to a child “We did a complete reserve study in accordance...on and on <not answering question>.”. Member: "You put 130K in reserves for the Sewer Plant so we are short $60K. BOD: "You are arguing." KL: <dismissive> Thank you. Member: Thank YOU. BOD: Discussion on depreciation and real world vs textbook. We are in good shape. Rest of discussion makes very little sense and does not relate to the shortfall of Reserve money to Water/Sewer. I remember just last month out esteemed Treasurer stated "THE BUDGET REQUIRES IT" , speaking to the $100. increase .
How in the hell can we be UNDER BUDGET , have $1.6 million in reserves but the needed and almost mandatory increase is needed ? Have you ever thought about cutting un necessary and wastefull spending ? Even think of trying to save instead of spend every nickel as soon as you can get your hands on it ? It seems we (SLohA) were doing so much better before Management Co. and this Board of Bullshitters took over and cut the Members say out almost completely .
I would suggest this Board of Directors try and keep their facts straight, there is way too much double talk going on from one month to the next and that tells me that they have NO IDEA what the hell they are doing .
I know for a fact the SLohA members would have a much more productive meeting WITHOUT the MANBOD . Listen up people, We need to let the MANBOD know when we speak they SHUT UP AND LISTEN .
SS, get your act together . Say one thing and stick to it, it might make it look like you have your own voice instead of trying to massage peoples choices by what another BODs tells you to say .
Note to BODs : You bunch are a damn joke . You give your false sense of importance way too much presence . PB is the only one that at least doesn't talk out of both side of his mouth and isn't rude and condescending to the MEMBERS OF SLohA >in caps because we are an ASCOCIATION . Wake up you double talking ,backsliding , No Fact presenting bunch of windbags , we all see how you've been conducting yourselves and it is NOT going without cH allenge .
Back in my day we would have dragged your bunch outside and gave them a public horse whipping , that would generally straighten out those that got too big for their britches . Public humiliation is something you can still look forward to so take note BODs, we have an eye on you all .
FJ
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Post by BagLady on Feb 6, 2014 8:01:07 GMT -5
KL once again demonstrates an intolerance for any thoughts/suggestions by the people HE represents unless those ideas are in his own and "in alignment with the stars". When this Board comes up with a clearly unlawful profit-making plan to force a new assessment on owners, contrary to the governing documents, he blames the resulting legal fees for what should be an elementary understanding of the documents by the board itself on "people with other opinions".
Note to KL: as long as you as marching to the beat of your own ego needs and money-making schemes, you will spend Our money on legal fees to protect your butt. And WE will spend money on legal fees to protect OUR butts from the likes of you and your arrogant, greed-driven cronies.
Believe it--the legal fees are going to soar because this board does not understand the governance of SLohA. What it does understand is that it is regulated by no one and rarely does an owner spend money on an attorney to cH allenge its actions. That is why BOD can treat people as they do and smugly say "S u e Me" to "people with other opinions". They understand that they have access to 1.6 million in Reserves and if they want to spent every dime of that money on legal fees--they can and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it except RECALL THE DIRECTORS and remove them from their position of authority.
In my opinion, SLohA could save a boatload of money by getting rid of these Directors and send the packing. Hire a reputable CAM and and a bookkeeper and replace 'em with people who will responsibly represent and respect the owners. Just sayin.
The BOD will continue its propaganda in its meetings and in the S-bag Express to blame people who have legitimate reasons, based on facts (not to mention morality and common sense) to question its actions and motives. BOD must protect themselves from breach of fiduciary lawsuits by relying on paid legal advice. They KNOW they are breaching our Covenants and must mount a show of force! Why else would they tell Rules Committee to change the Covenant giving them--5 people--SOLE POWER to determine commercial activity in here? They will be cH allenged as long as they continue to remain arrogant and ignorant of SLohA and common law. BOD will have to resort to a solicited legal opinion, which will be shopped for the desired advice and then skillfully crafted to cover BOD Butts in an attempt to suppress further legal cH allenge.
Sorry, KL--TWO attorneys say that 309 does not apply in this situation and are prepared to protect owners against this flagrant abuse of owners' rights should you enact it from "whatever alternative provider" (another lie no one believes). If you want to learn something, read previous posts on the subject, the basic information from these arguments (!Argumentative and Out Of Order BANG! Sit Down! Movin' on...) came from attorneys--not dreamed up by "people with other opinions".
Owners who wrote letters cH allenging the internet assessment await Terror BearIt's advice on attorney's letterhead attached to your written statement of support. An undated, unsigned excerpt of a statute-not even reproduced on corporate letterhead- on a yellow piece of paper pinned to a bulletin board will not cut it.
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Post by New (nearly) on Feb 6, 2014 8:50:33 GMT -5
BagLady says;
That is why BOD can treat people as they do and smugly say "S u e Me" to "people with other opinions". They understand that they have access to 1.6 million in Reserves and if they want to spent every dime of that money on legal fees--they can and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it except RECALL THE DIRECTORS and remove them from their position of authority.
This is such an outrages lie I can't help but to comment. The BOD can not spend the Reserve Funds anyway it wants, they can't even use money designated for one thing to pay for something else. It is state law people, look it up. What will happen is they (the BOD) will have to have additional budget amounts or a special assessment to cover the cost of litigation and will be paid for by all of the residents of SLohA. If this lady(?) would take the bag off from her(?) head maybe she could see some light. What a shame we have a few sick people in this beautiful Resort trying to rip it to shreds. Some one please be her(?) friend so she(?) doesn't feel so lonely.
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Feb 6, 2014 10:10:14 GMT -5
I agree with an option that this community has: RECALL THIS BOARD IMMEDIATELY!
After reading transcribed notes of actual comments made by board members during meetings/workshops in the last 2 months, it's obvious KL and DB have lost it. SS contributes nothing and is also rude and nasty to owners. The rest don't seem to say too much and are "yes" men who rubber stamp what KL & DB want.
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Post by BagLady on Feb 6, 2014 10:36:25 GMT -5
Is dat you, D? Well Baglady did over generalize a bit but I don't think "outrages" (sic) is an accurate characterization.
But whatever, thanks for mentioning the detail and giving this lonely lady an opportunity to apologize for painting with too broad a brush and explaining!
What I should have said is that the BOD cannot spend every cent out of Reserves with impunity, if discovered. BOD has the key to the piggy bank. The laws about Reserves in 720 are mostly procedural in quality. Legal fees could certainly be lawfully added as a Line Item in the Reserves if proposed by BOD and ratified by members. The alternative is to simply send owners a Special Assessment in the mail if the Operating Fund cannot absorb the fees. Maybe this is not such a bad idea as the BOD seems to push recklessly ahead in its desperation to levy a new assessment contrary to our governing law and is drawing legal fire.
The law about how our Reserves are to be spent and how members waive Reserves are in our Bylaws (and in 720). If the BOD decides to play fast and loose with Association monies (whether Operating or Reserves--same pot), they can expect criminal prosecution, if discovered. Hopefully, this possibility tempers check-writing behavior. It is a concern that has been bandied around (so far) as people come to wonder if we don't need a forensic auditor to take a peek at the books for irregularities. This has intensified suddenly as a result of the near-panic of BOD's rush to produce a flawed ballot to push the internet assessment fee on the owners, contrary to our laws. Apparently, violating our own governing laws is OK because it won't get you put in jail as tampering with money would.
I would also remind you that an April 2013 streetside conversation with a member of the BOD actually conveyed the very same thing that I said in my first post (admittedly overstated) i.e. that the "Board would spend every 1.8 million in Reserves to fight" the expiration of covenants for the good of the community. So, I am not the only one to overstate--but your Board member should know better than to make a public declaration of the Board's intent.
So, again, thanks for the shout out and for trying to find me some new pals.
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Post by Fissure Survivour on Feb 6, 2014 10:43:52 GMT -5
About KLs comments about the tennis courts : "Cracks so big you could fall in them" , WHAT A LOAD OF BULLCRAP !
Living in Anchorage Alaska in 1964 and surviving the '64 Earth Quake I actually lost friends to cracks so big you could fall in them.
K en Le wis , you Sir are the male version of what is known as a *DRAMA QUEEN . As a sitting Board President you should try and restrain yourself from making such outrageous comments just to get attention and if that is impossible then you need to step down and step off.
To the rest of the Board, when a member of the Board runs off at the mouth you others need to stifle them and ask them to politely STFU .
*Drama Queen (from URBAN DICTIONARY Online)
People (mostly girls - but boys play their part) who like to blow everything totally out of proportion because they either :
a) Want to seek attention
b) Have some emotional dysfunction and it's their duty to make life harder for everyone around them including themselves .
c) Just simple can't get over it.
d) Feel they are so important that they can talk shit and nobody should correct them .
e) Blame everyone else for his/her own stupidity and lack of self control .
f) All of the above . *
* (In K e N L ewis case "F" is the correct answer .
KL needs to realize that nobody cares about their hysterical episodes or what they have to say --- life is hard enough without all the added bullshit drama on top.
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Post by Not new in SLR on Feb 6, 2014 11:04:35 GMT -5
BagLady says; That is why BOD can treat people as they do and smugly say "S u e Me" to "people with other opinions". They understand that they have access to 1.6 million in Reserves and if they want to spent every dime of that money on legal fees--they can and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it except RECALL THE DIRECTORS and remove them from their position of authority. This is such an outrages lie I can't help but to comment. The BOD can not spend the Reserve Funds anyway it wants, they can't even use money designated for one thing to pay for something else. It is state law people, look it up. What will happen is they (the BOD) will have to have additional budget amounts or a special assessment to cover the cost of litigation and will be paid for by all of the residents of SLohA. If this lady(?) would take the bag off from her(?) head maybe she could see some light. What a shame we have a few sick people in this beautiful Resort trying to rip it to shreds. Some one please be her(?) friend so she(?) doesn't feel so lonely. Excuse me New (nearly) - maybe you Hayvn't lived in SLR long enough, but just where do think the extra money for things that need to be paid for comes from? If SLR is over budget on an item, then the money has to come from somewhere. Without a truly itemized budget (which we had just 5 years ago) how the hell do you know? Are you really going to take the MANBOD word for it? These are the same people who make snide remarks, talk about tin hats and UFOs and dismiss a person who they are suppose to represent. They can't even follow simple FL Bingo Regulations. - money goes to players, bingo supplies and charity only. Now they have to refund money spent in SLR and give it to charity. KL was on that first Bingo Committee after Donald, he should have known better as everyone got a copy of the regulations back then. SORRY but just saying the words "can not" in bold doesn't make it so around this MANBOD - they are proven liars and can NOT be trusted!
FYI - Snide remarks don't make you creditable either.
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Post by New (nearly) on Feb 6, 2014 12:47:47 GMT -5
About KLs comments about the tennis courts : "Cracks so big you could fall in them" , WHAT A LOAD OF BULLCRAP ! Living in Anchorage Alaska in 1964 and surviving the '64 Earth Quake I actually lost friends to cracks so big you could fall in them. K en Le wis , you Sir are the male version of what is known as a *DRAMA QUEEN . As a sitting Board President you should try and restrain yourself from making such outrageous comments just to get attention and if that is impossible then you need to step down and step off. To the rest of the Board, when a member of the Board runs off at the mouth you others need to stifle them and ask them to politely STFU . *Drama Queen (from URBAN DICTIONARY Online) People (mostly girls - but boys play their part) who like to blow everything totally out of proportion because they either : a) Want to seek attention b) Have some emotional dysfunction and it's their duty to make life harder for everyone around them including themselves . c) Just simple can't get over it. d) Feel they are so important that they can talk shit and nobody should correct them . e) Blame everyone else for his/her own stupidity and lack of self control . f) All of the above . * * (In K e N L ewis case "F" is the correct answer . KL needs to realize that nobody cares about their hysterical episodes or what they have to say --- life is hard enough without all the added bullshit drama on top. Sounds like a self description again! |
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Post by FS on Feb 6, 2014 13:47:21 GMT -5
About KLs comments about the tennis courts : "Cracks so big you could fall in them" , WHAT A LOAD OF BULLCRAP ! Living in Anchorage Alaska in 1964 and surviving the '64 Earth Quake I actually lost friends to cracks so big you could fall in them. K en Le wis , you Sir are the male version of what is known as a *DRAMA QUEEN . As a sitting Board President you should try and restrain yourself from making such outrageous comments just to get attention and if that is impossible then you need to step down and step off. To the rest of the Board, when a member of the Board runs off at the mouth you others need to stifle them and ask them to politely STFU . *Drama Queen (from URBAN DICTIONARY Online) People (mostly girls - but boys play their part) who like to blow everything totally out of proportion because they either : a) Want to seek attention b) Have some emotional dysfunction and it's their duty to make life harder for everyone around them including themselves . c) Just simple can't get over it. d) Feel they are so important that they can talk shit and nobody should correct them . e) Blame everyone else for his/her own stupidity and lack of self control . f) All of the above . * * (In K e N L ewis case "F" is the correct answer . KL needs to realize that nobody cares about their hysterical episodes or what they have to say --- life is hard enough without all the added bullshit drama on top. Sounds like a self description again! It sure sounds like you to a TEE D , I'm glad you see the similarity . |
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Post by Admin on Feb 10, 2014 10:29:52 GMT -5
What website is this? THIS one is not anonymous. Members can be anonymous but IT is not anonymous! Is there another website trying to get people not to vote? Anyone at the meeting know?
There also was nothing entered into the Minutes about returning the misappropriated bingo monies to charity? Is there an alternate universe?
I have not yet listened to the second half of the audio.
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Post by Im Trying on Feb 11, 2014 1:26:01 GMT -5
O-Please listen to Part 2, if you find time. The Official Draft of the Workshop, is coated with sugar. Just like my Kellogg's Frosted Flakes. The important discussions, between residents and the BODs are not included in the Draft, for a reason. Keep the Lid on The Pot, and Residents in the dark.
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Post by Tony the Tiger on Feb 11, 2014 7:28:27 GMT -5
O-Please listen to Part 2, if you find time. The Official Draft of the Workshop, is coated with sugar. Just like my Kellogg's Frosted Flakes. The important discussions, between residents and the BODs are not included in the Draft, for a reason. Keep the Lid on The Pot, and Residents in the dark. K eN L ew is' FROSTED FLAKES coming to a bowl near you ! |
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Post by Admin on Feb 11, 2014 8:04:36 GMT -5
Shouting in ALL CAPS makes BOD look rude and desperate and does not lend any more credence to their so-called "legal" opinion. Entering a childish temper tantrum in the Official Record compounds the unprofessional misconduct of SLohA record-keeping.
Will somebody please move that BOD strikes that on the FINAL Minutes version?
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Post by Admin on Feb 11, 2014 8:11:23 GMT -5
O-Please listen to Part 2, if you find time. The Official Draft of the Workshop, is coated with sugar. Just like my Kellogg's Frosted Flakes. The important discussions, between residents and the BODs are not included in the Draft, for a reason. Keep the Lid on The Pot, and Residents in the dark. K eN L ew is' FROSTED FLAKES coming to a bowl near you ! I see him as a Rice Krispies "Snap, Crackle POP" breakfast--his mind has snapped, his rhetoric crackles with poorly-formed sarcasm and he pops in at meetings to preach to his dwindling choir of Krispie klappers! |
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Post by Guts & Glory on Feb 11, 2014 8:49:28 GMT -5
Shouting in ALL CAPS makes BOD look rude and desperate and does not lend any more credence to their so-called "legal" opinion. Entering a childish temper tantrum in the Official Record compounds the unprofessional misconduct of SLohA record-keeping. Will somebody please move that BOD strikes that on the FINAL Minutes version? Actually I quite prefer to see the BODs act out , its good that all Association Members see what most of us have been seeing for years with this bunch that cant answer one single question without running for legal advice even when provided the answer on paper from our rules and regulations.
Keep up the bad work KL and posse , we are counting on you to FAIL !
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Post by Admin on Feb 16, 2014 7:13:08 GMT -5
Note President agenda item: BOD will no doubt be "clarifying" Official Records requests...again! As I recall, this was one of the FIRST motions made by a "new" board two years ago--they could hardly wait to shut down records requests by making them prohibitively expensive! The Legislature had to revise its Inspection of Official Records statute AGAIN last year because of this kind of thing by HOA Boards throughout FL.
BOD may be doing this in reaction to having received a "records preservation" letter from a Member's attorney last week. Maybe MANBOD is nervous because of the parallel Minutes record and audio being maintained. Maybe it is an innocent, truly clarifying statement though I have not seen a great rush of confused members trying to get through a complicated records request system. The problem being addressed is probably secret and is not going to be stated.
It is truly sad when a Member has to submit a records request to learn how much Members spent on the Annex and the Boat Dock--and pay over $100 for that information. BTW-this payment was on a check and was cancelled in December but it does not appear on the December "reconciled financials". I wonder where that money went? Maybe it will require a records request to see what happened to the records request fee.
By law, a board-adopted "house rule" can be no more restrictive than the statute. Do you think KL wants to open up records to owners and make it Less restrictive than the law permits?
KL-I hope you look this up and/or get a legal opinion BEFORE you act this time. If you ask IT, she will be in violation of the law regarding CAM's and UPL. She cannot interpret the law for you. Be careful--you need IT and members are watching. The Official Records Inspection law is really easy to understand. The legal guidelines are already written for you in easy-to-comprehend lay language. And you won't have to go running to the attorney and spend owners' money on an attorney to do YOUR job.
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