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Post by Im Trying on Mar 4, 2014 23:59:45 GMT -5
It is a Privilege for Our BOD Members to spend "Our Money" On Attorney Fees. But on Issues Our BODs have created, Our Directors, should spend their Own Money on any Fees... A Big QUESTION to ask??? Why does this Board Waste "Our $$$$$$", on a Attorney's Advise, when "Our Board Ignores any Legal Advise" given to them. "What A Sorry Dysfunctional Group of Directors"
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Post by BagLady on Mar 5, 2014 9:14:10 GMT -5
The Owners are also PRIVILEGED to organize a RECALL of Directors who habitually call on expensive attorney advice and spend Association money on problems which it creates by its inaction and action.
It seems to me that the neglect of the past is now evident in the ignorance and arrogance demonstrated in the present and will require a painful and expensive transition to set this dysfunctional HOA back on a lawful operating basis. Owners might be comforted by the fact that practically nothing was spent in the past, so owners have had a free ride and not had to face the harsh realities along the way. I called this the "S-bag Bubble"--that carefree place where the outside world is not allowed to intrude--a sovereign land free of outside influences. Many realities are revealing themselves as SLR "grows up" and demands accountability and legitimate governance from its elected representatives.
SLohA's wake-up call is a slowly dawning reality that the Covenants do not serve the kind of community SLohA has become. SLR has shed its functional "recreational vehicle park" identity but retains its corporate and legal identity and is still bound by restrictions on only camping vehicles. It "morphed" by a longtime, consistent waiver of the RV park personna, but does not have the governance structure to support a manufactured home community (not to mention the infrastructure).
My Top 5 Realities in the Future:
#1 No 55+ restrictions in the Covenants and NO rental restrictions (of course not--who rents RV's?) meaning that as attrition occurs, more vacant homes will be rented to people under 55 yrs and more elderly residents will house younger family members under 55. (HOPA permits 20% occupancy now which trumps ALL governing docs).
#2 Volunteerism will decline drastically, as the population ages and attrition occurs, placing more pressure on budget for many types of recreational costs and this may change the definition of "resort".
#3 More $ to be spent on Legal Costs to compel SLohA to conform to plan of community and FL constitution especially commercial activity/land use.
#4 Covenants expiration resolution may become a game-changer.
#5 Ongoing and costly issues with wastewater treatment plant with possible Special Assessments ahead. Rise in homes "walked away from" and vacant units. No authority in Covenants to lien and foreclose (of course, why would you lien and foreclose a pop-up trailer?)
These are the kinds of things an enlightened board should be paying attention to. Such a Board would logically set up a Long Range Planning Committee and a Cost Control Committee. SLohA has demonstrated a willingness and ability in the past to control costs and recover from near-disastrous financial conditions, but it cannot do this with a Board that is self-centered, secretive, dismissive and short-sighted--controlled by a Management Company that is self-serving, inept and disrespectful of Board and Owners.
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Mar 5, 2014 11:00:03 GMT -5
Hello, This was posted on March 4th on Chug's Site: "Board of Directors (Only) Privilege Meeting" will be held on March 13.
NOTICE
The members of SLohA are duly noticed pursuant to
Florida Statute 720:
SLohA Board of Directors Privileged Meeting with
SLohA Attorneys
Brown, GaGaKnees, Weiss & D'Agresta. P.A.
Date: Thursday, March 13, 2014
Time: 10:00 a.m.
Place: SLohA Board Room
CLOSED TO THE MEMBERS
I'm sure that just as in the case of their last "privileged meeting" held on 9/4/13, we, the ownership in SLR will NOT see any type of meeting minutes resulting from it; HEY BOD: WHAT ALL THE SECRECY ABOUT???
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Mar 5, 2014 11:11:49 GMT -5
Top 5 Realities in the Future: #1 No 55+ restrictions in the Covenants and NO rental restrictions (of course not--who rents RV's?) meaning that as attrition occurs, more vacant homes will be rented to people under 55 yrs and more elderly residents will house younger family members under 55. (HOPA permits 20% occupancy now which trumps ALL governing docs). #2 Volunteerism will decline drastically, as the population ages and attrition occurs, placing more pressure on budget for many types of recreational costs and this may change the definition of "resort". #3 More $ to be spent on Legal Costs to compel SLohA to conform to plan of community and FL constitution especially commercial activity/land use. #4 Covenants expiration resolution may become a game-changer. #5 Ongoing and costly issues with wastewater treatment plant with possible Special Assessments ahead. Rise in homes "walked away from" and vacant units. No authority in Covenants to lien and foreclose (of course, why would you lien and foreclose a pop-up trailer?) These are the kinds of things an enlightened board should be paying attention to. Such a Board would logically set up a Long Range Planning Committee and a Cost Control Committee. SLohA has demonstrated a willingness and ability in the past to control costs and recover from near-disastrous financial conditions, but it cannot do this with a Board that is self-centered, secretive, dismissive and short-sighted--controlled by a Management Company that is self-serving, inept and disrespectful of Board and Owners. BOD's take notice to the above future realities--realities that only YOU yourselves created; only answer is if you BOD's don't change your self-centered, secretive, dismissive and short-sighted ways along with the Management company's ineptitude, self-centered/serving and disrespect of owners, these things will become realized, and the blame of that will all fall on your shoulders.
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Post by BagLady on Mar 5, 2014 15:30:13 GMT -5
That's one of the better notices lately; it identified the attorney firm that would be in attendance. It would have been amazing if the author (CAM?) had actually taken a moment and identified the statute section for easy reference for members:
FS720.303(2)(a) Note that this meeting must be about proposed or pending litigation; there must be an actual situation involving a real person (or corporation). "Pending or proposed litigation"--pretty clear except the lawyer will probably come up with a legal sounding way around it. So the Minutes should reflect the general nature of the matters discussed. Wouldn't it be awesome if BOD produced Minutes?
FS720.303(3)
Note the above says "...all meetings... it does not exclude attorney-client meetings.
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Post by secondhandmillionaire on Mar 6, 2014 17:53:41 GMT -5
Does this mean that I can sell my place to someone under 55 with kids and no one can stop it legally?? If there is no covenants, is that what it means..
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Post by BagLady on Mar 6, 2014 19:42:31 GMT -5
Yes, that is what it means. You can sell to anyone of any age you like--even if there WERE active covenants in existence, there were never any covenants restricting occupants to any age.
Any rules trying to impose such a restriction are Null & Void because there are no Covenants restrictions on age of occupants.
My attorney won a case recently about this very issue in a Florida HOA.
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney and the interpretations above are my opinion and offered for informational purposes only. These interpretations should not be relied upon if you are contemplating legal action. Consult an attorney for legal advice.
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Post by Father Justice on Mar 6, 2014 20:08:51 GMT -5
Does this mean that I can sell my place to someone under 55 with kids and no one can stop it legally?? If there is no covenants, is that what it means.. Yes, you could even send a list of places for sale to any Realtor that represents all walks of life, color, creed, sexual preference, even the wretched refuse from other Countries.
I had Asian neighbors in another HOA in a different state and they had the best cookouts! Who doesn't like Asian food or fried chicken and black eyed peas and corn bread?!
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Post by Admin on Mar 14, 2014 9:05:09 GMT -5
Alert observers reported that this meeting lasted around 4 hours and ended around 1:30-2pm. Despite verbal assurances to the owner that she would immediately contacted after the meeting, the owner had heard nothing from anyone about anything (as of last night).
However, a little birdie flying around the park told me that there was a sign out that said
I will have to go get a photo of that one!
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Mar 14, 2014 10:14:45 GMT -5
Alert observers reported that this meeting lasted around 4 hours and ended around 1:30-2pm. Despite verbal assurances to the owner that she would immediately contacted after the meeting, the owner had heard nothing from anyone about anything (as of last night). However, a little birdie flying around the park told me that there was a sign out that said I will have to go get a photo of that one! I guess she's trying to say that the balls of the male board members are in the manager's purse; this is something some of us have already known.
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Post by Admin on Nov 2, 2017 15:54:00 GMT -5
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