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Post by Im Trying on May 14, 2014 22:09:04 GMT -5
Now this really worries me..... If SS thinks any Lawsuit is Frivolous and also SS saying we are in Good Shape!!!
SS: things are in good shape and we would be in better shape if we were not paying for all the attorneys and that’s a result of frivolous actions against the board and that’s all I can say about that. Audit approved to pay auditor up to $21K.
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Post by BagLady on May 14, 2014 22:14:26 GMT -5
Yeah it's bizarre. The BOD seems to not be residing in the real world where there are very, very few lawsuits that are frivolous. Especially, one that is launched by owners against a financial Goliath like an HOA. Does he really think that these owners are SO STUPID as to waste money on a Frivolous Lawsuit? REALLY! I agree that this BOD's outrageous assessment of the lawsuits cannot co-exist comfortably with a financial assessment that "all is well".
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Post by J Grnt on May 15, 2014 6:51:01 GMT -5
Now this really worries me..... If SS thinks any Lawsuit is Frivolous and also SS saying we are in Good Shape!!!
SS: things are in good shape and we would be in better shape if we were not paying for all the attorneys and that’s a result of frivolous actions against the board and that’s all I can say about that. Audit approved to pay auditor up to $21K.
I wouldn't put any faith in what SS says, he is overflowing with his self imposed self worth. Claiming the legal problems that he and the other BODs are facing as "frivolous" is his way of deflecting the severity of the matters at hand.
IMHO, these BODs are running scared, they cant escape what's coming and they have very little confidence . Most all of the Community has little to no confidence in the BOD and that is the reality that THEY have created for themselves due to their lack of self control and ignorance.
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Post by Admin on May 15, 2014 7:13:10 GMT -5
All better now! Just received a reply from AK:
My reply:
See???!! When BOD wants to, it can answer owner correspondence!
AK is now 3-0--1.she nearly screwed Bingo for the community, 2. she failed to read her "playbook" ie the Bylaws and Statutes on how to be a Secretary and produce accurate Minutes, and 3. she is messing with a litigant and introducing elements into an active lawsuit that will not look very good in front of a jury. All in the space of..how much time...could that be measured in months? Well, at least she apologized, though no doubt her Tang was so plastered inside her cheek as to make her other ...well.. you get the idea!
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on May 15, 2014 7:50:08 GMT -5
There is nothing "mere" about anything that ak ever says or does at a board meeting; she just lets nasty, snarky crap fly out of her mouth or pound a table to get attention--never bothering to THINK about what she's going to say, how it will sound--or how it will impact herself or others in this community.
She is definitely not a good candidate for the board--but, then again, neither of the rest of them...
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Post by Admin on May 15, 2014 8:32:29 GMT -5
But, consider--she has a uniquely eloquent style of elocution! Her voice is loud, resonant and clear albeit strident at times. Every word and letter is enunciated to perfection. When she reads correspondence, my heart pounds an extra beat at the meaningful pauses, emphases and yes..even sarcasm.. that is injected into the reading. She makes even mundane matters come to life! AK even punctuates her talking points with sound effects! She only needs to control her emotional responses and tame the vengeful beast inside to guard against PDA (Public Displays of Animosity). I personally think AK is the only colorful, entertaining representative of this mind-numbingly vanilla board. (Mind-Numbing is not BAD--except when it is accompanied by Mind Dumbing!)
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Post by justme on May 15, 2014 14:23:53 GMT -5
What was not mentioned at the board meeting was that the board is bringing in internet by September
Bids have gone out in the form of adds in the ledger, to bypass florida statutes
An owner wrote in and requested info on the present lawsuits.The reply was a flat no and refused to pass on information.
If this kind of information is not being passed on to members,then what else is going on that we don't know about.
It seems the board,manager and K C net is separating themselves from the members and does not have our best interests at heart
As many in here realize the covenants have expired and we no longer are part of the association.These folk are being set upon and pressured with stand over tactics that no longer should be tolerated. As individuals they are getting away with it to a certain degree But if we come together and form our own voluntary association, we and this community stand a better chance of getting through the coming problems by standing together to stop this internet,be rid of this manager and management company and shut down this board of directors. To return to four years ago when volunteers ran this community and keeping costs own. Its not a pleasant thing to do,however, these problems need immediate attention and voting board members out would be a lengthy process
PLEASE COMMENT
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Post by BagLady on May 16, 2014 7:17:31 GMT -5
@justme
This will very likely happen in time when the declaratory judgement is made by the courts. However, it is also fairly certain it won't happen soon. SLohA will appeal an adverse decision thus drawing out the time and expense even further into the future. The Board doesn't care--SLohA's money is not THEIR money and their interest is in maintaining control for whatever purposes they have in mind. As you observed, it appears that MANBOD interests are veering off into a direction that does not serve the owners-but continues to pit Owners against MANBOD and Kay c and provoke what SS has deemed "frivolous lawsuits". That is SLR's future until such time as the Board is completely reconstituted with reasonable people who understand the meaning of FIDUCIARY DUTY and have respect for the LAW--both SLohA and Society's.
When SLohA decides to attempt revitalization, it either will or won't be successful. At that time, a Voluntary Association will be set up with the assistance of the attorney. It will be set up somewhat like the current corporation with a mission statement and provisions for operating its missions (to operate and manage the common property), will likely provide for some interaction with the mandatory association (if one exists) and also for executing financial matters i.e. collections, accounting, financial disclosure if that is distinct from the mandatory association as the User Fee will be calculated differently for members of the Voluntary Association and will not include such things that owners must currently pay for, such as Violation Letters, Kay c N maintenance operations and equipment, election costs, D & O insurance, attorney fees, Art's $257 Golf Book (since Voluntary owners need not be represented by a tyrannical mandatory association regime.) Maybe at that point owners finally might get to see a check register and other financial disclosure information which is hidden from owners by the current MANBOD.
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Post by secondhandmillionair on May 16, 2014 7:29:13 GMT -5
I would like to know how we start a movement against the board..I seen and heard all I need too..It clear to me that thing here need to be fixed.. So let's get it together and move on....I am support of getting ride of this mess are board got us in to..I been around these types all my life so I can see no good can come out of this.. Your truly S-bag victim ..
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Post by A Pretty Turd on May 16, 2014 7:54:36 GMT -5
I would like to know how we start a movement against the board..I seen and heard all I need too..It clear to me that thing here need to be fixed.. So let's get it together and move on....I am support of getting ride of this mess are board got us in to..I been around these types all my life so I can see no good can come out of this.. Your truly S-bag victim ..
One of The kind of movements this board needs on it is a Bowel Movement
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Post by Back on May 16, 2014 13:11:32 GMT -5
I'll comment, you stupid moron. ST is out to destroy this community and you people are too stupid to realize it. She is leading you down a dead end ally. You mention what was not mentioned at the Board meeting but you completely forgot to mention how wrong ST was/is about the Rule Book. It's really funny how she gets some of what goes on at the meetings, but anything that makes her look bad, is incoherent or babbling and has to be a lie because it's proves her wrong. If someone mentions that this false information was posted on her web site she gets real feisty. She claims she digs out information and only prints the truth and you idiots eat it up. You bunch of slum dogs are the lowest form of dirt on the planet. Stop and think about it, ST moves in here in 2010 and that is when all the problems began. She would have you believe that the BOD/management is the problem in SLR. It is this lying piece of s*** that is the cause of all the problem in SLR What kind of a bird brain must you have, to tell people such lies as the board is bringing in a new internet in September? When you don't know what you are talking about, just make up something and hope you can recruit another slut to your flock of followers (all ten). I was at the meeting when one of the letters requested information on law suits. I didn't hear anyone say a flat no, I did hear the President say, “no comment.” Sounds like you believe the lies from ST about Covenants being expired but I thought she said the court would have to make that decision and I don't recall it having gone to court yet. So now you think you are a Judge and you're telling everyone that your lot and many others have expired and you are no longer a part of the association. So you want to come together to form your own volunteer association (all ten of you). Lets see, JG could be security and turn his black lab into a police dog, ST would be manager with a lot to say about nothing, JA could be maintenance cause he knows everything about nothing and the other anon-mongers, BP, LT, JE, CG, KP and a couple of others stupids, you could rule the other 775 members. Then you mention the idiot volunteers that ran the place four years ago to keep costs down. Where you been, in a cave, stupid? Assessments were higher then they are now, roads needed repairs, sewer needed relined, building was falling down, boat dock was an eye sore. All of this has been corrected in the last four years and we have more money in reserves now. This isn't blowing in the wind, check it out for yourself. Oh, I forgot, you don't like true hard facts 'cause that goes against what ST is trying to sell you. You all should drop that hot tomato before all of you start to smell like her. The overwhelming majority of the people of SLR are saying if they don't like it here, why don't they just leave. You people are being laughed at, belittled, made the brunt of jokes and you are too stupid to realize you are less then 1% of the membership. Have you given it any thought as to where you are going to live if ST gets her way? People are saying why don't we buy her out and make her sign a contract that she will have no further contact with anything to do with S-bag. She has to send all of her correspondence through an attorney so she gets you stupids to pass on her letters. Wise up people, you are being used by a tramp for her own gain. Wait 'til she has to start answering to the vile, degrading lies she has been spreading around here.
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Post by BagLady on May 16, 2014 13:47:26 GMT -5
I figured I would let Back have his say--why not? The words speak volumes about the person. Back, your words are sewer spill from a mind oozing dark hatred. People in here are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves what to believe without your guidance.
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Post by Admin on May 16, 2014 14:38:39 GMT -5
I will respond to one thing Back said in order to correct misinformation and make an observation:
No--ST does not have to send correspondence to SLohA via an attorney. That is ludicrous. And there are only a few people in here that are aware that idiot suggestion was actually made--IT, and BOD's. So that tells me that Back is probably one of those people.
The truth is, that because I am not a member of SLohA, by virtue of my lot's covenants having expired in 2010, that I have no *standing to address the Board as a MEMBER on Association issues. My recent correspondence to BOD was written as a citizen who has the right to privacy and other civil rights.
*standing: a legal doctrine that only those with enough direct stake in an action or law have "standing" to cH allenge it.
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Post by observer on May 16, 2014 18:54:26 GMT -5
Denying reality through mud slinging is such an old style of attack. Please let each reader judge for him or herself the validity of the mere facts. We are not "infants in the woods" as the board and management think we are. Place SLohA's interests above egos and maybe we can all learn to enjoy one another and live in brotherly love.
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Post by justme on May 16, 2014 20:04:20 GMT -5
To answer one of those remarks as idiots that used volunteers to run the community
You are talking about Jm Hann,Vky Syers,Brc Balsh Jiny Lowl, Clyd Right...These are very well respected members of our community that ran the board at a time when a past manager nearly broke us.They spent countless hours volunteering their time and bring this community back to a 1.5 million reserve and keeping our association in good shape.
I really don't think you realize what you are saying
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Post by BagLady on May 16, 2014 21:11:53 GMT -5
@justme
Well said, justme. These people are civic minded, caring members of our community and made the hard decisions FOR THE GOOD OF SLR to bring the community back from the brink of financial disaster. From the results of their efforts, I believe they understood the meaning of "fiduciary duty". Their names should not be sullied by BACK by implication as "idiot volunteers" who failed SLR in some way. Their role was difficult and pivotal at that point in SLR history. SLR's needs were certainly more urgent than tending to roads and keeping assessments unrealistically low. SLR's financial risk and imperatives were critical back then and their accomplishments should not be dissed by this Back person without reorienting readers who were not here at the time. I thank them..I wish we had them back as our board...and I denounce BACK.
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Post by Im Trying on May 16, 2014 22:47:40 GMT -5
Let us not forget BOD Member Lindie K, she was part of that Frugal Group of BODs. That group actually cut cost by $100,000 plus, the first year.. Yes, I also wish they still sitting BOD Members.
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Post by Lra on May 17, 2014 6:10:21 GMT -5
What happened to the "S-bag Way", where we were neighbors and solved our problems with dignity and respect for one another? Why is it that violations have become the end and and be all? Would it not have been better to record all the violations on each property and then give written notice via regular mail and then allowing the property owner the graciousness of correcting those items upon his or her return to S-bag? Doing this assault on stumps alone shows no sensitivity or respect for and to all residents. Is the Board and management so afraid of loosing power and control that control MUST be regained at all costs?
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Post by guest on May 17, 2014 6:33:44 GMT -5
Stop and think about it, ST moves in here in 2010 and that is when all the problems began. She would have you believe that the BOD/management is the problem in SLR. It is this lying piece of s*** that is the cause of all the problem in SLR
Stop and think about this. The S-bag Way stopped in 2010 when Rerooka fired the accounting company Paychex which cost us big money to get out of that contract and get his golfBUDdy to come in and take over starting with an unlicensed manager with no experience.
back needs to go back and study history.
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Post by J Grnt on May 17, 2014 6:53:03 GMT -5
All I can say is that the comedic value of BACK is priceless. ME? and my dog on Security? HAHAAA! I guess BACK wasn't listening when K en LE wiss stated AND guaranteed I would say "WE DONT NEED NO STINKING SECURITY!" I did have to laugh at K L ewiss voice when he was ranting away and thought he should cut back on the hormones as he sounded like Rss the Intern from the Tonight Show w/Jay Leno.
That job would be easy enough since I worked with Police/Fire/Rescue for many years. Obviously BACK is ignorant to my background. I would be more suited as the Maintenance Foreman though, I wouldn't be working against myself and wasting man hours chasing my AZZ and doing it 3 times to get it half right. And I know right from wrong and wouldn't be taking orders to serve a wicked boss's vendetta on residents on IT's behalf.
But, I would be interested in helping fix SLR, one thing I WILL guarantee is that with me you would get an honest person and one who is concerned for others and not in for personal gain or some pumped up status to wave in peoples faces to be recognized.
BACK is just another spoon fed lackey that makes comments based on what BACK is told to believe, if BACK had done the research and got to know some of us instead of hate us they wouldn't have made the comments they did. And if BACK was so sure they are correct about the good people they mentioned why wouldn't BACK have used their real identity? I sense some doubt on BACKs part but the connection to the so called "powerful ones" is to much for BACK to step away from.
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