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Post by Lra on Jun 21, 2014 23:22:54 GMT -5
Thank you Clf J for the real up date on me. Please know that your take on me is unfounded and that the one and only negative interaction I ever had with you was when you aggressed on Gngr at the Bartow concert in your arrogant way. YOU HAVE NO HEART. Gngr thought you to be approachable instead you broke her down emotionally and when she b Egan to sob you added more insult and aggressed even more verbally. If this were Jessie in that situation what would YOU have done?
Attached by Mr. Wonderfull So its Cliffy Jenkem then eh. I can wait until this prick gets back in SLR. We are going to have a little face to face. Unless he will run like the cowardly Chicken shit I expect him to be! |
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Post by Lra on Jun 21, 2014 23:50:40 GMT -5
Please understand that we received approval from M. e. l. prior to us putting down the last of our monies on our full time home. We have no other place to live. Then M. e. l. allowed it in and it was not until M. e. l. received a complaint that it became an issue. The board's options were short sighted and did not take into consideration that we had received approval. (By the way, at the March board meeting a letter from Stmb Ixx was read stating that their employee mad a mistake on 66 Silversides.) Further our Warranty Deed reads that ALL rules and restrictions were expired and were not reimposed. Until the Board proves in a court of law that my deed is in error I will stand behind my deed.
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Post by observant on Jun 22, 2014 0:15:05 GMT -5
So "Facts Guest" is C. Jensn. Sorry, C.J., did you ever price out your "alternatives" you so graciously gave the ladies? Any change in their house would have lost their Jacobson's warranty and without that their chances of insurance or re-sale etc. was sorely affected. Now, let's talk about evil, how about one sister who puts out false information to get the attention of a board member? How about the board member spewing lies to a member in front of all her colleagues in the meanest spirited way possible. You deserve the F-u you got, you are the original hypocrite who is so self righteous he is currently breaking the CCR's with his new house coming in. You, sir, are the joke!
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Post by GTO on Jun 22, 2014 0:53:42 GMT -5
A Rumor is Bb's KCN would like to replace his present Tower on Grey-Hackle. Yes that is right, Bb would like a 80 ft. tower on his business property on Grey-Hackle. Yes, I said 80 feet, now that would be a site for sore eyes. The BOD would have to give their approval, along with Polk Co. Zoning. Now this is just "Pool Talk", we will have to wait and see.
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Post by Fact finder on Jun 22, 2014 1:57:38 GMT -5
In my many wanderings on HOA-related website, legal blogs, forums, op-eds, I have been confounded by the evil deeds wrought by people "serving" on HOA/condo boards. In all cases so far, I have always thought "Thank goodness OURS is not that bad!". Now, I believe that SLohA is moving into the Truly Troubled Zone of HOA's run by sociopathic personalities with visions of their own grandeur, abandonment of the principles of fiduciary duty and absence of humility. This BOD is threatened and is launching warning shots across the bow. Have they declared war on owners? I hear others say "Well THIS one is the real problem--not THAT one! Get rid of HIM!" I don't buy it. All BOD's are equally guilty for the evil they are creating and sustaining within this community. Even if one secretly disagrees with what fellow directors are doing to this community, they are all equally guilty and should be held accountable for the outcome. There is a Chinese Morality Proverb which uses monkeys who "See no evil, Hear no evil and Speak no evil" to illustrate. There is a lesser-known 4th monkey-who characterizes "Do no Evil". In the western world, the phrase is often used to refer to those who deal with impropriety by looking the other way, refusing to acknowledge or feigning ignorance. I thought it might be timely to revisit that proverb, which was first published in the NewsHound October 2011. The ancient Chinese proverb, in western society, is said to describe people who don't want to be involved. It's about "avoidance-thinking" and refusing to acknowledge things we should be acting on. I believe that this attitude is at the root of many problems we are facing as a community, as well as a nation. We have become spectators in dramas that very much affect and touch every one of our lives, only to become hyper-reactive when our rights have been thoroughly violated and it is then too late. Participation in society is a privilege and a requirement for proper representation in our governments, whether national, state, city or HOA . It has been proven time and time again throughout our recorded histories that human nature leads us to abuse power when it goes unchecked, unquestioned and undisputed. Ask yourself: "Am I wise-or foolish-to say/do nothing? True wisdom requires an openness to change and a willingness to have our ideas cH allenged— we must "see" things that we would rather not see and we must "hear" unfamiliar and uncomfortable things. Meaningful participation as a member of a larger group requires us to speak up for our and others' welfare during times of trouble. You should leave you family out of this. Don't light a match around bag lady, she is explosive. |
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Post by Lra on Jun 22, 2014 6:43:09 GMT -5
It is very hard being on the opposite side of management and board, I'm sure you realize. The constant harassments of lawsuits, "get even" threats, damage to property etc. LT has had more than her share. It is even harder if one is sensitive. The manbod has put out several rumors about Lra that are unfounded. She is a caring, cheery person and has always had great respect.
This particular manbod is unbelievably cruel, inconsiderate and lacking in empathy with their fellow man/woman. Most of them call themselves Christians... What a joke. If you see them in church tell them they are a bunch of hypocrites and Christianity is a show to them. What a bunch of jerks. Talk about being hypocritical. She has thumbed her nose at the BOD, flipped them off, and even got in one directors' face and said F*you and called him be name right in front of his peers. I don't blame the Board member for not wanting to associate with someone as evil as she is. They had three options to bring their home into compliance and refused all of them because she didn't want to let her friends down. She could have (1) moved her porch to the rear of the unit, (2) she could have traded for a corner lot and (3) the builder offered to take that unit out and build them a new one that would comply with S-bag rules. I don't have a judgement as to her life style, I'll leave that up to God, but I can't stand to look at her myself and want nothing to do with her only because of her attitude that she can do anything she wants in S-bag and nobody can do anything about it. I truly hope the Board presses forward with enforcing the rules. So go do your observing of something else and leave the cry baby alone. |
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Post by No More Eyesores on Jun 22, 2014 6:48:20 GMT -5
A Rumor is Bb's KCN would like to replace his present Tower on Grey-Hackle. Yes that is right, Bb would like a 80 ft. tower on his business property on Grey-Hackle. Yes, I said 80 feet, now that would be a site for sore eyes. The BOD would have to give their approval, along with Polk Co. Zoning. Now this is just "Pool Talk", we will have to wait and see. Residents can file complaints with the County Zoning Office and stop the aggressive parasite in our Community known as K C Net.. |
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Post by Lra on Jun 22, 2014 6:48:23 GMT -5
"Flipped someone off"? I HAVE NEVER USED THAT JESTER IN MY WHOLE LIFE. My 3 children and I are from the city of Detroit and never, BUT NEVER is that jester used. It could cost you your life. So once again you are perpetrating a lie.
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Post by BagLady on Jun 22, 2014 7:36:37 GMT -5
Let me know when you are finished your visit.
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Post by Lra on Jun 22, 2014 7:53:57 GMT -5
Clf, I am going to waste some words here to try and educate on the so called 3 options offered. 1) No engineer was involved in your unilateral offer to move the deck/porch. Just a way to make it look like the Board offered an idea. I investigated it and found that if such a thing was done that it would do multiple things: NEGATE OUR WARRANTY. MAKE OUR HOME TOTALLY UNINSURABLE. LOOSE OUR ABILITY TO SECURE A HOME LOAN. AND MAKE OUR FUTURE ABILITY TO SELL OUR HOME IMPOSSIBLE. 2) Clf, why are you building you new place on your old lot? Probably because you like the neighborhood. We too like this neighborhood and do not have extra monies to through around. If we did I would not be driving around a car that is 13 years old. 3) There was NEVER an offer from our builder to so call "return the unit". Gngr's sister is in ill health and her mind is not so rational these days. We tried to create a scenario that would get her out of the picture. Instead she shared it with you and you and the Board took it as fact. Never did any of you investigate the real facts. So you call that options? Get back to reality. It was approved and allowed in.
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Post by God Forgives, I DONT on Jun 22, 2014 8:25:35 GMT -5
Talk about being hypocritical. She has thumbed her nose at the BOD, flipped them off, and even got in one directors' face and said F*you and called him be name right in front of his peers. I don't blame the Board member for not wanting to associate with someone as evil as she is. They had three options to bring their home into compliance and refused all of them because she didn't want to let her friends down. She could have (1) moved her porch to the rear of the unit, (2) she could have traded for a corner lot and (3) the builder offered to take that unit out and build them a new one that would comply with S-bag rules. I don't have a judgement as to her life style, I'll leave that up to God, but I can't stand to look at her myself and want nothing to do with her only because of her attitude that she can do anything she wants in S-bag and nobody can do anything about it. I truly hope the Board presses forward with enforcing the rules. So go do your observing of something else and leave the cry baby alone. Since FACTual idiot uses god maybe he can reference Ezekiel 25:17
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Post by BagLady on Jun 22, 2014 11:50:59 GMT -5
Why would you consider ANY option? This parcel was YOUR land--free and clear--which you purchased in 2012-- with NO SLohA restrictions existing on the parcel. You voluntarily and generously consulted with, offered your building plans and acquired a courtesy blessing from 499. You paid county impact fees, acquired contractor permits, secured the county code permit and were given an occupancy permit. You "could" bend over backwards to please these people--but Why?
Could Potty Mouth seriously believe that a professional home builder would return a custom house to inventory like returning a coffeemaker to Walmart?
Could Potty Mouth be so devoid of the knowledge of construction of this custom home that he seriously thought the porch--which was built integral with the chassis--could be moved to the rear without compromising the structural integrity of the entire home and invalidating all warranties and merchantibility?
Does Potty Mouth seriously think it is a reasonable notion that the beautiful, tree shaded lot with the orange grove privacy in the rear in a neighborhood and among friends of your choosing could be casually replaced?
Not only was the concept of offering "options" ludicrous, so were the "options"!
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Post by Fact Checker on Jun 22, 2014 12:24:35 GMT -5
Why would you consider ANY option? This parcel was YOUR land--free and clear--which you purchased in 2012-- with NO SLohA restrictions existing on the parcel. You voluntarily and generously consulted with, offered your building plans and acquired a courtesy blessing from 499. You paid county impact fees, acquired contractor permits, secured the county code permit and were given an occupancy permit. You "could" bend over backwards to please these people--but Why? Could Potty Mouth seriously believe that a professional home builder would return a custom house to inventory like returning a coffeemaker to Walmart? Could Potty Mouth be so devoid of the knowledge of construction of this custom home that he seriously thought the porch--which was built integral with the chassis--could be moved to the rear without compromising the structural integrity of the entire home and invalidating all warranties and merchantibility? Does Potty Mouth seriously think it is a reasonable notion that the beautiful, tree shaded lot with the orange grove privacy in the rear in a neighborhood and among friends of your choosing could be casually replaced? Not only was the concept of offering "options" ludicrous, so were the "options"! You fat bag of wind. The offer to return the home to inventory came right from J, so why would anyone doubt that it couldn't be done? Unless of course you are uninformed or just trying to make your case sound legit. I didn't know you were a home builder too, you're just perfect at everything, aren't you? Of course, if it is built, it can be changed without compromising the structural integrity but your slow friends will believe anything you tell them so just keep feeding them their daily diet of trash. As far as moving, it was an option that was mentioned. BTW-planning a trip to S. CA any time soon? |
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Post by GTO on Jun 22, 2014 12:50:15 GMT -5
Talk about a bag of wind, seems Fact Checker is talking about oneself. You should be on SLR's BODs. They need help making correct decisions. You would fit right in with our Leaders.
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Post by BagLady on Jun 22, 2014 13:44:52 GMT -5
Fact/Potty Mouth whatever...try to comprehend the point. The point is: Not only was the concept of offering "options" ludicrous, so were the "options"!
The owners followed ALL protocols and requirements to prepare for the siting of their home-ALL required plans, permits and fees (Polk County and Builder/Contractor) and a discretionary courtesy consultation with SLohA. They were never under any obligation, legally, ethically or otherwise, to even consider your silly options. The deed to their parcel is not SLohA-use restricted.
Nonetheless, the owners consulted with experts about one of your suggestions--"moving the porch". Modification of the home in that manner was not a viable option, according to the statement made by the Jacobsen Factory Rep guest at the 3/6/14 BOD meeting:
Translation for Potty Mouth.
1. "NO- the porch cannot be magically removed from the chassis and repositioned."
2. Swapping lots is too ridiculous to be taken seriously and,
3. The owners themselves stated that the builder made no tradein available to them.
At the 3/6/14 BOD (Unofficial) meeting minutes, an Owner/Past President of SLohA stated:
I would be thrilled to see the park return to the way it was before this Management Company arrived and forced an abusive manager on us and assumed control of the (now-Zombie) Board.
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Post by Lra on Jun 22, 2014 16:04:53 GMT -5
Talk about being hypocritical. She has thumbed her nose at the BOD, flipped them off, and even got in one directors' face and said F*you and called him be name right in front of his peers. I don't blame the Board member for not wanting to associate with someone as evil as she is. They had three options to bring their home into compliance and refused all of them because she didn't want to let her friends down. She could have (1) moved her porch to the rear of the unit, (2) she could have traded for a corner lot and (3) the builder offered to take that unit out and build them a new one that would comply with S-bag rules. I don't have a judgement as to her life style, I'll leave that up to God, but I can't stand to look at her myself and want nothing to do with her only because of her attitude that she can do anything she wants in S-bag and nobody can do anything about it. I truly hope the Board presses forward with enforcing the rules. So go do your observing of something else and leave the cry baby alone. Clf, Just talked with my oldest son. He is a Vice President with Hyundai Corp. and he appreciates you adding to the corporate profits with your new car purchase and to his own personal paycheck. |
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Post by observant on Jun 22, 2014 18:06:37 GMT -5
Dear Board of Directors i.e. Peet,Alc,Chrly,D,Alln,Frances,Cliffy,andCharles, You may send as many certified letters to our mailbox as you wish, we will not receive them and in eleven days they will appear back on Mls desk. Why, we do not fall under your ccr's and if we did, we were correct in the interpretation of the covenant on porches. So, send as many as you choose. I seriously doubt if you will S u e us, we have broken no law and if you had a case, you would have done it months ago. In the meantime, we will continue having fun with our friends and ignoring you. Have a great day, Gngr |
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Post by Admin on Jun 22, 2014 20:10:55 GMT -5
Well said, Gngr! Like you, I have no business with SLohA other than sending in my quarterly User Fee. My attorney will handle their nonsense. I will maintain a Community Forum for residents to enjoy and hope that someday we will have something to talk about other than MANBOD's miserable misadventures and mishaps. I have no intention of opening letters from SLohA because SLohA means nothing to me until the matter of covenants expiration is settled. FlicK! Return to Sender! Mail lands on the post office floor! In the interim, I will enjoy S-bag and my friends/neighbors and hope to hoist a few with you and Lra soon from your beautiful showcase home.
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Post by Admin on Jun 30, 2014 11:43:10 GMT -5
Follow-up: After several phone tags, I finally got a chance to catch up with Bb. He confirmed that SLohA requested the pre-suit mediation and that he will be attending with his attorney in mid-July.
SLohA whines about lawsuits, but is apparently planning to launch one over a carport that was:
...reportedly previously approved
...already installed
...reasonably sited on an irregular pie-shaped corner
...Polk-county permitted and
...quite attractive
Additionally, three of Bb's neighbors wrote letters to the BOD to say how attractive the carport was and that it added to the desirability of the property and neighborhood. BOD never read any of this correspondence to Members at a board meeting.
So, in addition to openly and brazenly provoking lawsuits by its actions, BOD
1. willfully and maliciously continues to slander hundreds of owner's titles, and refuses to acknowledge or even seriously investigate the expiration of covenants
2. refuses to address the breach of covenants against commercial activity on the property and, then invites outside agents to come in and set up their business inside S-bag!
3. harasses owners directly and through recruited agents to the point where they now have to reserve a day every month to spend in a courtroom
4. is instigating a lawsuit over a non-problem! Only disturbed individuals in MANBOD see this carport as a problem. But, Everyone will pay unnecessary and wasteful legal fees.
Why is MANBOD doing this? I dunno--maybe because they can--they have access to the cookie jar and they want to be darn sure that the Control and Compliance Message gets jammed down the owners' throats--MANBOD controls the money and "they will spend every penny in Reserves to get control back-- it's for the good of the community!" The Intimidation Factor is speaking loud and clear--if you go against what MANBOD says, they will use their questionable authority and harass and fight Owners. It really doesn't matter if SLohA wins or loses--the Intimidation Factor is what will ultimately get what MANBOD wants--unquestioned obedience and control. Or maybe owners will give them the boot.
And the next question is--what is so important to MANBOD that it is willing to spend ALL the money and be regarded as the most reckless, hostile, expensive, inept and despicable management body ever in SLR history? What is MANBOD protecting?
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Post by Dick Tracy on Jun 30, 2014 13:30:33 GMT -5
What is MANBOD "protecting"? It does make one "wonder". Is it about "power & control, or is it about money? Or all three.
Now we have a BOD member with a new carport, that is said to be too tall, but that is OK.. Bull Crap !!! Stop Wasting Our Money on BS.
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