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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Apr 12, 2018 14:23:27 GMT -5
"Does pride, arrogance and ego run that rampant amongst my neighbors?"
Yes it does. My "neighbor" sued me over an imaginary line 8 feet over his head that was 3 inches over that line. It cost them almost 14K but me almost next to nothing. It wasn't a problem until they somehow became violent then butthurt and chose to su-e me. They lost their money and i never was ordered to change the encroachment. Dumbshit ego/gargoyle pride and little man arrogance got the best of them and now they are fools of their own doing. as they say online LOL !
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Post by Admin on Apr 12, 2018 14:54:45 GMT -5
Your point is that social networks are disturbed and/or destroyed by communities embroiled in differences in opinions. That, of course, is inevitable in this age of diversity.
The board is not responsible for social well being; they were elected to manage the common property of the association. They are bound by the fiduciary duties of care, loyalty and obedience. Adherence to these obligations is the foundation of an orderly and dynamic community that supports social networks.
My point is (and has been) that the board "writes it own rules" depending on the board du jour and the management company agenda. Make no mistake, despite lip service, the Management Company RUNS S-bag! And their agenda is profit-driven and NOT designed to preserve social networks or Fos ter social well-being.
The Management Company stated it eloquently in a single declaration in 2010 when the regime took over "We are here to execute your reserves!" We did not know then what that promise meant. We do now. Our association's legal expenses are only one expense category which produces a favorable revenue stream for the Management Company and its attorneys. Preferred vendors are the lifeblood of management companies' body politic and SLohA is the bloody cash cow!
The Board does not heed the will of the Owners. Remember, an Owner invited the Board to discuss the expired covenant issue prior to the first legal demand letter was sent--and the Board refused. The Board believed the Management Company and its attorneys when they issued their sage opinion--it was a "gray area"! The lawyers should have said "It's a GREEN area" because that "opinion" forked well over a hundred thousand green dollars to the attorneys. A second owner was minding their own business moving a beautiful new home into SLR and the BOARD SUED THEM without authority of the governing documents. BOTH owners prevailed on their legal complaints because the Board listened only to the Management Company and its attorneys.
This is not about community and kindness and loving. SLohA is Big Business and it is about power and money.
Please do not be short-sighted blame the messenger or the owners for the past expensive legal disputes and the social turmoil that may come in the future. The Owners were attacked by the Management Company and their attorneys, who advised the Board to start the fight--and the Board dutifully obeyed. But that is not what the fiduciary duty of obedience means! It means that the Board must obey the laws of its own governing documents and the common laws of the land. The Board failed their duty of obedience to the Owners who elected them. And they continue to fail...
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Post by Admin on Apr 12, 2018 18:21:04 GMT -5
"Does pride, arrogance and ego run that rampant amongst my neighbors?" Yes it does. My "neighbor" sued me over an imaginary line 8 feet over his head that was 3 inches over that line. It cost them almost 14K but me almost next to nothing. It wasn't a problem until they somehow became violent then butthurt and chose to su-e me. They lost their money and i never was ordered to change the encroachment. Dumbshit ego/gargoyle pride and little man arrogance got the best of them and now they are fools of their own doing. as they say online LOL ! Aren't you being hard on the little fella? After all, his court case gave us a Judicial decision that settled the question about the validity of rules and regulations as a basis for a legal complaint. The judge stated that S-bag covenants did not contain a provision that compelled owners to obey rules and regulations adopted by the members. That was an important contribution because it should restrain others who may be tempted to enforce rules and regulations to reexamine the legal justification for doing so and the likelihood of a favorable adjudication. We should thank the little guy for saving the association legal fees in the future!
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Post by Admin on Apr 13, 2018 6:32:47 GMT -5
Here is the link to the thread about the Sodheads' lawsuit. This link also has a copy of the Judge's Final Order denying relief to the Sodheads. If you read it, you will appreciate that you are not only a member of SLohA but are also a member of a larger community that will judge the actions of your neighbors. It is under the Board 2016 Real Estate and this is not a clickable link; you must copy and paste AND then spell out the entire "S-bag". You can also go directly to the Board and click the thread "Lawsuit over Encroachment". (Notice the link copy below shortens it because that is a feature of the forum I have opted for.) S-bag.boards.net/thread/1110/lawsuit-over-encroachmentHere is the summary of the Judge's Final Order and SLohA is on NOTICE: This is the same Sodhead that is on the SLohA Governing Documents Committee. If it were'nt so bizarre, it would be amusing! Rules and REgulations adopted in the future are...SUGGESTIONS.
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Apr 13, 2018 6:45:33 GMT -5
"Aren't you being hard on the little fella?"
Answer: NO, not at all. Saddle Baggers create their own legacy, or not. Some choose not to think and others that are the complete opposite are those who become Legends.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 22:34:08 GMT -5
Okay, I am clueless. Someone just posted on the S-bag facebook page pictures of one S-bag Lake Resort neighbor swinging a broom at another. When did this happen? And is this what one neighbor said to me was the "under belly of the snake", implying what? He wouldn't say just turned around and walked away.
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Apr 14, 2018 6:28:32 GMT -5
Okay, here is a clue. What you didn't see before the big neighbor broke the angle broom over the little neighbors head was the fact that little neighbor attacked big neighbor and big neighbor defended himself. You saw little neighbors side which isn't the entire story, you saw just the part that made him look like the victim when in reality, all facts be known, he was the aggressor and he would have gone to the hospital if i did not have such excellent self control (just ask my girlfriend:).
Little neighbor threw 2 fists at big neighbor and big neighbor used passive Martial Arts to 1. Stop the Aggressor 2. take away little neighbors balance & 3. let little neighbor tire himself out and run away home. Soon a Sheriff's Deputy arrived and after a bit of time Deputy Donald said that i was the victim of physical assault and that he would (with my demand) arrest little neighbor and take him to Polk County Booking in Bartow. My response was NO, although little neighbor might have learned a valuable and costly lesson by being booked, going to Court multiple times and serving time and/or paying legal fees and fines along with Community Service, i felt he was not in his right mind and i didn't want him arrested. As a REAL MAN, I settle my personal disputes personally. That ending would have played out much differently if i let someone else do all my thinking for me and had no self restraint.
If anyone REALLY wants to hear the entire story Big Neighbor would be more than happy to explain it, then you go to little neighbor and then see whats missing....that would be THE TRUTH.
I am wasting too much time with this, little neighbor has every right to come to me and finish up what he started, no cops, no lawyers, just Mano e Mano <insert chickens clucking>.
JG
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Post by Admin on Apr 14, 2018 7:00:05 GMT -5
First of all, FACEBOOK is a closed group of a specially-sorted group of owners in S-bag. Unlike this forum, those who do not agree with the Facebook groupies are NOT welcome to be part of the community namesake social group. I would not characterize S-bag Facebook as being a bastion of accurate reporting and a welcoming community social vehicle.
Second, there is a WEALTH of history and background that preceded the whack upside the Sodheads' head with an angle broom by JG. And it is detailed below. Behind THAT evolution was the Board's carelessness and zeal to "get" an owner that it did not like--JG. The board inserted itself into an issue that IT HAD NO BUSINESS INVOLVING ITSELF IN and unauthorized actions of the board precipitated what should have started and finished as a neighbor-to-neighbor matter. Indeed, the record of emails presented to the courts evidenced the vengeful motive of the Sodheads' against their neighbor. The judge was reportedly incensed that the complaint was brought into his courtroom and eventually threw the book at Sodheads and S-bag's Rules and Regulations became collateral damage.
What was omitted from the Facebook gossip was that JG was minding his own business one morning, sweeping leaves off his back patio and furniture when the little male Sodheads burst from his back porch and displayed physically aggressive behavior toward JG. JG instinctively raised the little $2 angle broom in his hands to ward off further attack. All the while, the solicitous female Souder was standing behind her spouse with a camera to capture the action. Not to intervene or help but to photorecord the action! This suggests this was a planned attack. Unbeknownst to the Sodheads, JG had a wildlife, motion-activated camera running 24/7 in the back yard, which took a series of shots every 5 seconds. Shortly after the brouhaha, the Polk Sheriff reviewed the camera photography and determined that the attack was clearly initiated by the male Sodheads. The Sheriff stated to JG that it was clear he had been assaulted by Mr. Sodheads and was the victim and Sheriff Donald asked if JG wanted to press charges. JG declined to press charges, stating that Sodheads was just a dumbass, and Mr. Sodheads was spared some jail time and taxpayers were spared some expense of prosecution.
For most of this encounter, I was physically present in the role of supportive friend. I also downloaded the game camera photography from the digital card to the computer so it would be available to police. I declined to post this material on the forum because it did not concern HOA.
Here is the earlier background which became part of the court record:
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Apr 14, 2018 7:35:10 GMT -5
Okay, I am clueless. Someone just posted on the S-bag facebook page pictures of one S-bag Lake Resort neighbor swinging a broom at another. When did this happen? And is this what one neighbor said to me was the "under belly of the snake", implying what? He wouldn't say just turned around and walked away. Could someone on the "CLOSED GROUP SLR FACE BOOK page" please post that picture on this site? I would like to add it to my Book of Greatest Hits. JG
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Post by Admin on Apr 14, 2018 9:38:34 GMT -5
Admin retitled the off-topic thread posts to a more appropriate content section.
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Post by jimherbst on Apr 15, 2018 2:27:28 GMT -5
As I read this post, the thing which immediately caught my eye was the statement that the aerial encroachment had existed for at least seven years. I'm not an expert on Florida law but, in most states, seven years of "uninterrupted occupancy" is the threshold for a valid claim of adverse possession. I'm surprised that the judge didn't decide the case on that basis instead of on the basis of enforceability of the Covenants
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Post by Admin on Apr 15, 2018 6:50:56 GMT -5
As I read this post, the thing which immediately caught my eye was the statement that the aerial encroachment had existed for at least seven years. I'm not an expert on Florida law but, in most states, seven years of "uninterrupted occupancy" is the threshold for a valid claim of adverse possession. I'm surprised that the judge didn't decide the case on that basis instead of on the basis of enforceability. You are correct, but the Sodhead's filed just prior to expiration of 7 year period. It was quite obvious to the judge that this was a revenge complaint and judge gave nothing to the complainant Sodheads. SNAP was instrumental in keeping the cost incurred by JG to a minimum. This case was important in two aspects: most importantly, it highlighted the FACT that SLohA covenants are not contractually binding on owners for rules and regs later adopted by members and reminded Baggers that it is the JUDGE that decides which party gets legal fees (if any). If there is anyone that still would like to think otherwise, then that is a special kind of stupid. The second aspect is cautionary; when the board involves itself in private property matters between neighbors without the firm authority of governing documents or common law, the price tag will be paid by the Owners through legal and administrative expenses, possible court-awarded punitive damages, public harm to the SLR "brand", softening real estate value due to constant litigation and annual audit disclosure statements, and loss of and/or increased cost of insurance. In my opinion, one of the important matters that Owners should attend to in S-bag is to adopt an amendment to the Bylaws requiring a 75% Owner affirmative vote to authorize any lawsuit initiated by SLohA. The Board, due to its subservience to a vendor with conflicting interests to that of owners, has proven repeatedly that it cannot be trusted to represent the broader interest of owners. How many more times will the Management Company and its cadre of attorneys persuade the Board to S u e an owner and gamble SLohA financial stability, reduce (execute) reserves, make Owners vulnerable to second-rate insurance carriers or worse, threaten Owner personal financial health and cost the association thousands of dollars in wasted legal fees?
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Post by Admin on Apr 19, 2018 6:16:12 GMT -5
Leaving the Bag today; visit was both pleasant and disappointing.
The Disappointing: Hate is still alive and well among the Facebooker group. What "seemed" to be absent from the Bag--hate--is still here. The superficial calm was just that--superficial. On the other hand, it is a very Sm all group and I don't want to characterize the Park to the level of the Facebookers.
The other Disappointments: Where oh where have the Sandhill cranes gone? I saw four cranes on the road after being here over two weeks. I saw two chicks with their parents down at the drive range. This place used to be crawling with cranes bossing drivers around on the roads.
The greeting sign at the entrance gate was updated, but misspelled. It says "Do No Block Entrance" instead of "Do NOT Block Entrance". More carelessness. Management is not paying attention and owners have to pay for an inferior product that announces to all visitors that WE ARE DUMB in here! The gazebo with all the bricks on SBT is in shambles and this cheap structure needs to be removed. The roads in here generally look like a crapwork puzzle and you would never guess they were resurfaced a few years ago.
The Pleasant: All the things that attracted me to S-bag, especially the natural and beautiful surroundings-still here. The beachy color on Bathhouse 2 and picnic pavillions was a nice surprise. The shabby highway entrance sign is finally getting a rehab. Loved the bright red roof on SBT-a touch of personal style that was delightful! Did not see any evidence of a Manager on the property at any time. Not a single direct or reported sighting! Someone got rid of TT-Yay!
All in all, it was a positive trip and I plan to return soon!
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on May 14, 2018 10:12:50 GMT -5
Okay, I am clueless. Someone just posted on the S-bag facebook page pictures of one S-bag Lake Resort neighbor swinging a broom at another. When did this happen? And is this what one neighbor said to me was the "under belly of the snake", implying what? He wouldn't say just turned around and walked away. Could someone on the "CLOSED GROUP SLR FACE BOOK page" please post that picture on this site? I would like to add it to my Book of Greatest Hits. JG I think what he was implying is that I know and understand the Statute's/Law's & Rules (none) & Regulations (none), but he/she/they want to listen to liars-gossip and sheeple propaganda that "they themselves" will NOT qualify with FACT. That has been the Standard in the Bag for years and is very costly to have explained by Lawyers that are payed with our quarterly due's that is used to take homeowners to Court so the lawyers we pay for and management can use to lose.
Does anyone understand that The Management Co. and OUR lawyers are to represent the home owners and not the management company? MAN-BOD take full advantage of our Reserves and their job is to run us out of money then buy up "The Resort" and run a dictatorship at all our expense and force BS on everyone even if (in the words of Kn Lws) WE HAVE TO SHOVE IT DOWN YOUR THROATS*.
* Have Audio File with Kn saying this @ a open meeting to the Owners.
Don't get me wrong, i enjoy following the Law, being Honest to a fault and calling out anyone that is so misguided they cannot be reasoned with due to drinking the MAN-BOD Kool-Aid. Wake up folks, I see a huge Special Assessment in the near future. Hear me now.....believe me later.
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Post by Admin on Jun 26, 2018 14:44:33 GMT -5
The gazebo with all the bricks on SBT is in shambles and this cheap structure needs to be removed. The roads in here generally look like a crapwork puzzle and you would never guess they were resurfaced a few years ago. According to the President's Report of June 20, 2018, the damaged gazebo will be replaced with insurance funds with a new "more substantial" structure. Sure hope SLohA gets a building permit, since this land is deed restricted by Polk County to be free of structures! The roads are planned for a seal in August with settlement money from TT.
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