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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2019 17:43:11 GMT -5
It's official.
Chap announced at this morning's coffee klatch that Kay C Ntwerk and Bb stab were now out of business permanently.
At first the story that stab told was of a giant sinkhole in Miami caused his problems; however, a Google of "giant sinkhole in Miami" appeared to have no Truth at all.
Next, owners were told that some workers from Frontier cut the line into his fiber feed that was also untrue. Someone from the Bag called Frontier and asked and they denied anybody altering or cutting any lines near S-bag.
At some point, we were also informed that stab was upgrading or resetting or doing something to his equipment and that was responsible for the service interruption. That may or may not be true.
However, being suddenly out of business, serving thousands of subscribers inside and outside of S-bag is very unusual and suggestive that someone or something outside cut off his supply of Internet feed.
Since it appears that there will be no return of service,this is likely a very serious interruption and reminds me of Iowa (which one can read all about on another thread on this forum.)
Everyone is scrambling to set up their smartphones so that they can use them as mobile hotspots and buying more feed from their phone subscribers. I don't know what are Canadian friends are doing as I wonder if they are able to even do this in the US.
And in the middle of all of this, there are papers being circulated announcing a special meeting calling all owners in S-bag for a petition to remove Chap from his position in the administrative office. This is truly a mystery since the board has the only and ultimate power to hire or fire the management company and also to tell the management company to remove its employee from our premises. More will be revealed...
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Post by Lra on Mar 18, 2019 18:29:02 GMT -5
It's official. Chap announced at this morning's coffee klatch that Kay C Ntwerk and Bb stab were now out of business permanently. At first the story that stab told was of a giant sinkhole in Miami caused his problems; however, a Google of "giant sinkhole in Miami" appeared to have no Truth at all. Next, owners were told that some workers from Frontier cut the line into his fiber feed that was also untrue. Someone from the Bag called Frontier and asked and they denied anybody altering or cutting any lines near S-bag. At some point, we were also informed that stab was upgrading or resetting or doing something to his equipment and that was responsible for the service interruption. That may or may not be true. However, being suddenly out of business, serving thousands of subscribers inside and outside of S-bag is very unusual and suggestive that someone or something outside cut off his supply of Internet feed. Since it appears that there will be no return of service,this is likely a very serious interruption and reminds me of Iowa (which one can read all about on another thread on this forum.) Everyone is scrambling to set up their smartphones so that they can use them as mobile hotspots and buying more feed from their phone subscribers. I don't know what are Canadian friends are doing as I wonder if they are able to even do this in the US. And in the middle of all of this, there are papers being circulated announcing a special meeting calling all owners in S-bag for a petition to remove Chap from his position in the administrative office. This is truly a mystery since the board has the only and ultimate power to hire or fire the management company and also to tell the management company to remove its employee from our premises. More will be revealed... What kind of legal responsibility does the SLohA incur due to the contract that the then President signed with Virginia stab in December 2016? That contract made it exclusive for only KCNetwork to provide services. And did the SLohA Board approve by vote that contract? If not, are only the signing parties liable and open for legal actions from residents? Is anyone forming a class action suit? Many parameters to explore here. What other SLohA monies past, current and future are connected KCNetwork? Although I am not advocating a revolt, I am merely pointing out how Jm Ath's and S u e Tg's hardline questions were neglected in the past and how those two fell victims and were basterized throughout the park. There are many very important reads on this issue on this forum. I urge every Saddlebagger to educate themselves and not fall into the rumor venue.
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2019 22:03:21 GMT -5
Here is a link to the Lease Agreement between Virginia stab and leery listerine>>>
The entire board should be of interest to anyone curious about the evolution of the hot mess that this will become for S-bag owners.
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2019 22:06:59 GMT -5
For anyone curious about the "Iowa" remark on this thread, here is a summary of Bb stabs involvement in fraud and prison time reprinted from the thread:
Thread: KCNetwork & The Big Boys ~~ "A NEW CORPORATION Is BORN" ! Posted Sep 12, 2016 at 1:08pm
Here's the summary of the criminal prosecution of Good Ole Big Boy stab, a reposting from Sept 12, 2016:
Be angry at me for keeping this in the forefront if you like. I do so with purpose and intention.
There are some events in life that are life-changing events. Most of us can identify these in our personal life. THIS is a life-changing event in S-bag's corporate life which has profound implications. We should never forget the adverse impact that the arrival of this Owner in S-bag, in concert with our trusted elected representatives, neighbors and hired management, has had in violating the fundamental contract between SLohA and Owners and fouled the once amicable environment in this park.
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2019 22:27:21 GMT -5
Lra posted: Lra: I am not an attorney but, it is fairly certain that the "contract" is spurious. It was made between Virginia stab and leery listerine and purported to involve SLohA and Kay c Networks. It is extremely one-sided and not what I think the judiciary would call "fair". It was done in secrecy and no contract was presented to the members, who will surely pay the legal bill on what is to come.
Kay c Ntwerk has been in SLohA's money for years! This morning at KaffeeKlatch, Bb stab "gave notice" to SLohA of KCNetwork's default of the "lease contract". SLohA, by contract terms, must demand that the provisions of the lease causing the cessation of internet service be cured and substantially remedied within 30 days. Inasmuch as Bb stab has abandoned the "contract", SLohA is free to reclaim the towers for the use of another provider.
I suspect that there will be a significant legal costs associated with disentangling stab's private business from SLohA affairs. This was a huge mistake to get into bed with stab. These kinds of people do not change their stripes and SLohA had every reason to suspect that this would end badly. We just don't know yet "how badly". Or how costly...
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2019 22:47:06 GMT -5
"Crickets" on slresort.net about Kay c Ntwerk operations closure.
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Mar 19, 2019 8:13:37 GMT -5
Common thing with liars, their story always changes. easy to spot, as they won't look you in the eyes. Instead their eyes dart back and forth looking for the door when you want more details about all of their lies on the topic.
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Post by Lake Wales Wireless on Mar 19, 2019 15:55:28 GMT -5
Mr stab stole not only my business but close to 100k in assests. All I have to say is I hope charma came back to bite him. If the opportunity was right I would reconsider reviving Lake Wales Wireless and providing the service the people of Lake Wales Truely deserve.
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Post by Admin on Mar 20, 2019 14:19:15 GMT -5
@lake Wales Wireless: If you want to explore an opportunity to replace Kay c Networks, you might seek additional information through the Admin office at 499 S-bag and ask to speak to the Manager about it. I do not have enough information to know whether the Association is inclined to replace KCNetworks with anybody yet.
I know you have posted on this forum in the past about the ruination of your business by Kay c Ntwerk and, like Dr Phil says "Every pancake, no matter how thin, has two sides". It is impossible for anyone who is not on the "inside" to know how this came about BUT I will say that knowing the past business practices of Bb stab inclines me to believe that there was some monkey business in the evolution of Kay c Ntwerk's presence in S-bag's business and I am sorry you feel victimized by Bb stab.
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Post by eastpolk on Mar 21, 2019 6:11:50 GMT -5
Mr stab stole not only my business but close to 100k in assests. All I have to say is I hope charma came back to bite him. If the opportunity was right I would reconsider reviving Lake Wales Wireless and providing the service the people of Lake Wales Truely deserve. There are options.....It will depend on ownership of the towers and equipment both inside SLR and out. You know who this is, we spoke on the phone about this just 2 days ago
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Post by Admin on Mar 21, 2019 11:42:40 GMT -5
KCNetLeaseCompressed-compressed.pdf (865.82 KB) Clearly, the towers are the property of S-bag. There is a Bill of Sale attached to the Lease Agreement. The agreement specifically excludes Kay c Ntwerk mounted equipment. The lease makes no mention of any towers outside S-bag. We all know that KCNetwork solicited and served many, many subscribers outside of S-bag and logically, he would own those towers. However, I don't think those towers would directly involve S-bag. The parameters of the lease agreement are set forth with exhibits, diagrams, engineering drafts, aerial etc.
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Post by Admin on Mar 23, 2019 11:52:00 GMT -5
Eastpolk and Lake Wales Wireless: S-bag's interest is obviously getting internet service returned to our administrative, security and maintenance operations. We have lost contact with our water/sewer alert system, our security cameras and entry gate among other things.
We own all the towers on our property but the equipment stab mounted is excluded from the bill of sale specifically and belongs to him.
We are currently reaching out to other providers specifically Verizon who can offer a "jetpack" but that will not work for Canadians, and many of our owners are Canadians.
We are looking for a provider for this community and perhaps that provider could pick up the outside KCN subscribers who are deprived of service outside S-bag, like South Shore and others.
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Post by Admin on Mar 25, 2019 14:10:49 GMT -5
A few details to be aware of:
A Default letter must be sent (certified) to Kiosk Centers LLC to the only registered owner/officer manager, Virginia stab.
Note to the Board: Details Matter! If you screw up the Notice, you have to start over and go back to GO!
Kay c Networks is just a dba (child) of the parent corporation Kiosk Centers LLC.
Bb stab's name is no where in sight on the Kiosk Centers papers--not even as a Director.
FIVE (5) days after the default letter is sent, either Virginia stab or an officer of SLohA can call a meeting of the Board of Directors to discuss the default. This should have been done already as the cessation of operations was announced at the KK meeting on March 18th, 2019.
This meeting sH all be scheduled within 30 days of the meeting request and sH all be attended by a majority of the BOD (either in person or by voice conference). Virginia stab must attend the meeting and Bb stab can attend as a member of SLohA because it is a Board Meeting in which ALL owners are entitled to attend.
A meeting of the majority of the BOD is a QUORUM and, as such, 48-hour notice must be given to Owners and Owners can attend.
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Post by jimherbst on Mar 28, 2019 10:08:26 GMT -5
I recently had a meeting with Chap in which I requested a status report on what we are doing to restore internet service to S-bag. I believe this should be a top priority for our Board – not only for the sake of those Saddlebaggers who rely on the internet to do their banking, pay their utility bills back home, etc. - but also to protect our property values. Nowadays, a retirement community, timeshare community, etc. which lacks internet service is at a great disadvantage when it comes to attracting new buyers. Chap informed that a potential buyer for KCNET has come forward. Such a sale could resolve our current internet dilemma. But, before we approve an assignment of the Towers Lease, I urge that we thoroughly check out this new “buyer”. What is his background? Does he have the experience and financial wherewithal to run an internet provider service? Is this a true sale of KCNET or is it, in actuality, merely a “straw sale”? There is a legal but highly unethical scam for a business to get out of its financial liabilities. It arranges for a sale to a shell company. The shell company – which is actually owned by the same principals – buys the assets but not the liabilities. Then, when the sale is finalized, the old company declares insolvency and files for Chapter 7 bankruptcy. The creditors are then left out in the cold. Sadly, this method has been used by some unscrupulous CEO’s to get out of labor contracts that include pension benefits and health insurance for workers and retirees. It’s a simple matter to research the buyer’s Articles of Incorporation at the County Clerk’s Office. If there is overlap on the list of initial Board of Directors, that should send up a red flag. For my part, I would urge our SLohA Board to also consider another option – that our homeowners association take over the task of running an internet provider service. Now, obviously, we do not currently have anyone on our staff with the technical “chops” to run such a service. But there are plenty of geeks out there that we could hire. And, when I say “hire”, I don’t necessarily mean an employee. Instead we could enter into a personal services agreement with an individual or a company similar to the contract we have with Stmbug Ixx LLC. As such, we avoid F.I.C.A. taxes, unemployment insurance and workers’ compensation insurance. And, seeing as we already have a company who takes care of collecting our HOA dues, storage area lot rents and other miscellaneous revenues - as well as paying our bills to outside vendors – It would be a relatively simple task to redo our contract with Stmbug Ixx regarding the financial end of an internet business. They already have the software that automatically bills us for the quarterly HOA dues. again, it would be a relatively simple task to amend that software to include billing those Saddlebaggers who use the park's new internet. The other advantage I see with running an ISP ourselves is the possibility of lowering the cost to S-bag’s internet customers. By IRS regulation, the S-bag Lake Resort Homeowners Association is a non-profit corporation. We are not allowed to make a profit in order to maintain our tax-exempt status. Therefor, by eliminating the profit margin (and assuming there is enough revenue to cover the costs), we might be able to lower what Saddlebaggers had been paying to KCNET for internet service. Food for thought…
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Post by Admin on Mar 28, 2019 10:59:23 GMT -5
Yours is the kind of thinking we need more of in S-bag. However, as Dr. Phil says 'the best predictor of the future is past relevant behavior'.
To wit: The Board did NOT vet Stmbug Ixx Inc before hiring it. It was a golf club buddy deal. Stmbug Ixx did not even get a CAM FIRM license until 2009 and had NO EXPERIENCE with HOA. Bd Stmbug Ixx admitted this in public at a meeting.
The Board did NOT vet Stmbug Ixx's ,Property Manager #1 who arrived here with NO CAM license or experience.
The Board did NOT vet Stmbug Ixx's Property Manager #2, who was newly licensed and had no experience.
The Board did NOT vet Stmbug Ixx's Attorneys, who have singlehandedly cost owners more money with bad legal advice, missteps, mistakes and Gray area opinions than any other single line item, with nothing to show for it. These are attorneys who are practicing community association law...and I mean PRACTICING! They are not FL Certified in Community Association Law.
And then there's KCNetworks. The board may or may not have known about his background, but it was a matter of public record which a member, Jm Ath, easily pulled up on his computer when the shenanigans started with the Kn Lws/D Brnd board in 2014.
If the Board is smart, they will spend a few bucks on a Private Investigator to do a background investigation on the next internet vendor.
They will also completely void the Old lease agreement which is NOT assignable and require the new vendor to operate OUTSIDE the park. There is way too much disruption and lack of security in contractors racing in and out and parking on our roads.
IMO, any new vendor who comes forward and demands to "take over" stab's old agreement (which is not assignable) is suspect from the git-go as being what Jm Herbst is describing as a "straw buyer".
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Post by jimherbst on Mar 30, 2019 10:13:37 GMT -5
Would you settle for office space (with servers) inside the administration building, S u e? That would resolve the problem of contractors "racing in and out and parking on our roads", since the administration building comes before the security gate. Naturally, the new internet vendor would have to pay rent for that space (as well as for use of our telecommunications towers)
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2019 11:51:55 GMT -5
Yes I think that would be acceptable to prevent contractors going deep into residential areas and parking wherever! It is not fair to burden a section of S-bag with the commercial operation necessary to install/repair equipment. If it was centered at the Admin Bldg, no particular owners would have to experience this nuisance and suffer the decreased property value.
Inasmuch as the lease, the current unratified and very one-sided lease needs to die and a new FAIR lease should be constructed that is presented to members-if not for a vote-at least for input and inclusion in an important activity that affects every owner and their assessments and property value.
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2019 14:48:47 GMT -5
On a side note, such a plan would require a member vote to designate the Office and parking outside the gate to internal internet commercial enterprise/partnership SOLELY for the benefit of members. As it stands, commercial enterprise is allowed only in areas designated by the "Association". That means the MEMBERS--not the Board! It would not require an amendment to the Covenants, but I would think that each unit would have to pass the RULE with 50% approval. A QUALIFIED attorney could make the call. I would think such a vote would be easy to pass.
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Post by jimherbst on Apr 3, 2019 9:23:02 GMT -5
Again, my preference is for SLohA to take over running the internet. The "contractor", therefore, would be someone the Association hires to run our internet service , i.e. a geek. I see many advantages with running our own internet service..;.. not the least of which is that we would no longer be beholden to some incompetent or shady entrepreneur.
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Post by Admin on Apr 6, 2019 11:02:26 GMT -5
The offer to subscribe is attached. There is no number to call and ask questions; does anyone have a contact number? I would like to know if you must pay the full fee all months, even if you are only seasonal or if there is a vacation "pause" available? Also, are the towers needed and if not, who will pay to remove them? If they are needed by Spectrum, how much will they pay for the benefit of members? spectrum_pricing.pdf (258.04 KB)
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