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Dick Tracy
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Club's Donation Request... Nov 20, 2013 3:56:26 GMT -5

Post by Dick Tracy on Nov 20, 2013 3:56:26 GMT -5

I was at the front office the other day and I noticed on the front counter, a form letter requesting money ( Donations ) for several recent projects. Some of the Projects were the: Annex Bldg, The New Pier, Generator Parts and other odd expenses in SLR. It just seemed strange Management is soliciting for Donations for big ticket projects.

That leads me to belief we may have huge cost over runs on these projects. I wish I had a Copy of the Request for the donations. Maybe I can find a copy and post the Notice.

Maybe this is a standard procedure, and I have just never noticed it before. Does anyone have any Info on Club Donations in SLR on Budgeted Projects? Curious Me.... :-)

Last Edit: Nov 21, 2013 3:11:46 GMT -5 by Dick Tracy: correct a word

Anon. Bender Guest	Club's Donation Request... Nov 20, 2013 7:03:54 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Anon. Bender on Nov 20, 2013 7:03:54 GMT -5 But doesn't our Rule Book say that Soliciting is NOT ALLOWED in SLR ?

guest anon Guest	Club's Donation Request... Nov 20, 2013 9:20:17 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by guest anon on Nov 20, 2013 9:20:17 GMT -5 Don't you know the rules are only for IT's infants (the owners). Manbod writes its own rules called Sop's which owners are not allowed to see.

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Club's Donation Request... Nov 20, 2013 9:35:10 GMT -5

Post by Admin on Nov 20, 2013 9:35:10 GMT -5

Took me a while to figure out how to get this info "translated" from PDF protected mode to regular text but I finally got it! Here is the Donation List.

Donation List 2013-2014
Updated November 7, 2013

As Per S.O.P. # 15 the following list is provided for distribution to SLR Clubs for their consideration regarding donations to SLohA.

Reserve Items:

Dock replacement (phase II) - $90,536.29
(includes boats slips, dry Stand pipe, retaining wall, and Permits)
Annex and site work (parking) $
Garden Club donated — landscaping - $3852.37 BD donated —7 trees - $1283.
Generator maintenance - $32,519.
Clubhouse AC units #6 and air handler #7 - $7660.
Water tank repainted - $9860.
5 manhole casing epoxy lining repairs - $15,540.
Pool heater replaced - $3285.
Chlorine contact chambers at waste plant Epoxy lining applied - $19,293.75

Page 2

Operating Budget:

Rodent exclusion - $1028. clubhouse and rec. Building
Discs for shuffleboard —20 sets- $1112. Shuffleboard Club donated - $556.
29 S-bag Trail improvement - $3944. Garden Club donated - $1675.
Fence replacement bath house 2 - $1765.20
Tennis court bulletin boards - $260.07
Pool deck chairs re-webbed - $4247.90
Maintenance office computer - $748.88
QuakKirb resealed common areas - $1030. Garden Club donated - $1030.
Tables and Chairs - $2231.84
Blinds (Memorial H all) - $329.84
Tile (Memorial H all) - $5523. Women's Club donated - $3000. Men's Club donated - $1500.
Golf Club donated - $500.
Tennis Club donated - $525.
Carpet in front office - $2886.
6 Picnic tables - $2326.14
Kitchen Band donated - $250.
To the "buildings line" of the operating budget

Wish List: Shuffleboard court awning extension - $26,000.
Lighting upgrade at tennis courts -

Last Edit: Nov 20, 2013 9:38:03 GMT -5 by Admin

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Dick Tracy
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Club's Donation Request... Nov 20, 2013 10:45:29 GMT -5

Post by Dick Tracy on Nov 20, 2013 10:45:29 GMT -5

Why would management ask for donations for items in the Operating Budget, Annex Bldg.& the Pier? I was under the impression the Clubs donated money to local Charities or items for the Clubs needs. I guess you do Live & Learn.

Would Bingo be included in the Club list? They have about $7,000 in reserve.

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Club's Donation Request... Nov 20, 2013 11:01:15 GMT -5

Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Nov 20, 2013 11:01:15 GMT -5

By looking at this list, I can't help but wonder what are our dues paying for if they want such large donations from clubs and owners?
Aren't these things supposed to be paid for with everyone's dues?

Why are they asking for such large amounts of money when this place brings in $1.6 MILLION/year?

How in the HELL does $1.6 MILLION get spent so fast and so recklessly? And what about our Reserves? You can't help but wonder what amount is left--if any.

It has become painfully obvious that there is far more that meets the eye as to what's going on behind the scenes with our money.

Flood Pants
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Club's Donation Request... Nov 20, 2013 12:27:18 GMT -5

Post by Flood Pants on Nov 20, 2013 12:27:18 GMT -5

I am looking for folks that want to form a "Storage Lot & Dog Run Club" . It seems these areas always flood after the rainy season and nothing is ever done about it .

These items are part of our amenities and should be on a schedule to be upgraded, Owners shouldn't have to donate funds to get these items fixed.

Maybe we need a "GET RID OF INEPT MANAGEMENT Club" to start the ball rolling ? I certainly would donate to that .

GRIM Member Applicant Guest	Club's Donation Request... Nov 20, 2013 14:04:04 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by GRIM Member Applicant on Nov 20, 2013 14:04:04 GMT -5 GRIM = "Get Rid of Inept Management" Club I'll apply. What are the dues?

Private Investigater
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Club's Donation Request... Nov 21, 2013 7:18:48 GMT -5

Post by Private Investigater on Nov 21, 2013 7:18:48 GMT -5

There may be -----------------------------going on in the Bingo ranks .

Editor Note: I'm afraid, Private Investigator, that your post goes over the line in its current form. While everyone is aware of big problems in the past and some inappropriate and very questionable behavior in recent times, I have removed the inflammatory parts of your post in this instance. If you have any solid evidence or basis for such allegations, that would be different and your comments would be appropriate. Please refrain from unsupported "rumor mongering"

Last Edit: Nov 21, 2013 9:56:44 GMT -5 by Admin

Dick Tracy God/Goddess Come to the......."DARK SIDE" we have cookies Posts: 787	Club's Donation Request... Nov 21, 2013 8:47:32 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Dick Tracy on Nov 21, 2013 8:47:32 GMT -5 P.I.G., Why do you say that about Bingo? I am sure this is just pool talk gossip.
	Last Edit: Nov 21, 2013 12:13:05 GMT -5 by Dick Tracy: edit text

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Club's Donation Request... Nov 21, 2013 10:21:01 GMT -5

Post by BagLady on Nov 21, 2013 10:21:01 GMT -5

I hope we can return to the subject of this thread--Club Donation Wish List.

This is highly unusual and raises my already-elevated antennae to celestial heights.

My first reaction was wonderment: "How ill-advised to advertise all the money that is being flagrantly spent like $4200+ on pool lounge chair rewebbing".

My next reaction was to scratch my head: "Why solicit drop-in-the-bucket donations from Clubs" for things like "generator maintenance" that is supposed to come out of the budged funded by our Assessments?" Not to minimize the generosity of Club donations to the Donation Drive, the Clubs' money gets lost in the pot to pay for project costs. These Clubs work hard for the money and deserve to use proceeds of fundraising to further club interests and activities!

My current reaction is: MANBOD's odd solicitation of Clubs for high ticket infrastructure expenses that have already been paid FAILS the "it makes sense" test and my sniff-o-meter is working overtime.

Last Edit: Nov 21, 2013 10:29:33 GMT -5 by Admin

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Pool Gal
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Club's Donation Request... Nov 21, 2013 11:35:49 GMT -5

Post by Pool Gal on Nov 21, 2013 11:35:49 GMT -5

Many Chaise Loungers were replaced and many were re-webbed just a few years ago and I remember the webbing to be $2,800 roughly .

In the summer months more than half of the chairs are put into storage and it just seems odd that they all need repair now.

This has me wondering why . There should be a record of these repairs to chairs as it was done under new managements watch about the end of May or so a few years back.

I hope this information helps find out whats being looked for .

Anonymous Environmentalist
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Club's Donation Request... Dec 2, 2013 13:36:07 GMT -5

Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 2, 2013 13:36:07 GMT -5

Nov 21, 2013 7:18:48 GMT -5 Private Investigater said:

There may be -----------------------------going on in the Bingo ranks .
Editor Note: I'm afraid, Private Investigator, that your post goes over the line in its current form. While everyone is aware of big problems in the past and some inappropriate and very questionable behavior in recent times, I have removed the inflammatory parts of your post in this instance. If you have any solid evidence or basis for such allegations, that would be different and your comments would be appropriate. Please refrain from unsupported "rumor mongering"

Evidently, Private Investigator was RIGHT, he knew wrong-doing was happening w/Bingo--even before the Dec. newsletter came out and even before mange called bingo; he was trying to warn us, yet most of us only got to read the dashes in his censured post.

Anonymous Environmentalist
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Club's Donation Request... Dec 2, 2013 13:40:18 GMT -5

Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 2, 2013 13:40:18 GMT -5

Nov 21, 2013 8:47:32 GMT -5 @Jm said:

P.I.G., Why do you say that about Bingo? I am sure this is just pool talk gossip.

I know for a fact Private Investigator Guest does neither--he does NOT go to the pool and he does NOT gossip--the "pigs" are the ones that are on the board, thank you.

Anonymous Environmentalist Guest	Club's Donation Request... Dec 2, 2013 13:43:28 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 2, 2013 13:43:28 GMT -5 Nov 20, 2013 14:04:04 GMT -5 GRIM Member Applicant said: GRIM = "Get Rid of Inept Management" Club I'll apply. What are the dues? or it could be: "Get Rid of Idiot Manager"

Anonymous Environmentalist
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Club's Donation Request... Dec 24, 2013 14:34:42 GMT -5

Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 24, 2013 14:34:42 GMT -5

Nov 21, 2013 10:21:01 GMT -5 BagLady said:

I hope we can return to the subject of this thread--Club Donation Wish List.

This is highly unusual and raises my already-elevated antennae to celestial heights.

My first reaction was wonderment: "How ill-advised to advertise all the money that is being flagrantly spent like $4200+ on pool lounge chair rewebbing".

My next reaction was to scratch my head: "Why solicit drop-in-the-bucket donations from Clubs" for things like "generator maintenance" that is supposed to come out of the budged funded by our Assessments?" Not to minimize the generosity of Club donations to the Donation Drive, the Clubs' money gets lost in the pot to pay for project costs. These Clubs work hard for the money and deserve to use proceeds of fundraising to further club interests and activities!

My current reaction is: MANBOD's odd solicitation of Clubs for high ticket infrastructure expenses that have already been paid FAILS the "it makes sense" test and my sniff-o-meter is working overtime.

I thought I could find a way to bring this post back into play here and Eureka! It was right there in the budget--check it out, if you look at the income section, there are blanks all across for the income type: "contributions by committees." And we know damn well that a lot of club-donated monies have been reported already this fiscal year alone in either: meeting minutes/manager's reports/S-bag Express.
BagLady is right, their Sm all donations do get lost in the pot--(the pot in this case might just be some people's wallets.) I say: Let the clubs keep their hard earned dollars for their activities!

Post by Dick Tracy on Nov 20, 2013 3:56:26 GMT -5

Post by Anon. Bender on Nov 20, 2013 7:03:54 GMT -5

Post by guest anon on Nov 20, 2013 9:20:17 GMT -5

Post by Admin on Nov 20, 2013 9:35:10 GMT -5

Post by Dick Tracy on Nov 20, 2013 10:45:29 GMT -5

Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Nov 20, 2013 11:01:15 GMT -5

Post by Flood Pants on Nov 20, 2013 12:27:18 GMT -5

Post by GRIM Member Applicant on Nov 20, 2013 14:04:04 GMT -5

Post by Private Investigater on Nov 21, 2013 7:18:48 GMT -5

Post by Dick Tracy on Nov 21, 2013 8:47:32 GMT -5

Post by BagLady on Nov 21, 2013 10:21:01 GMT -5

Post by Pool Gal on Nov 21, 2013 11:35:49 GMT -5

Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 2, 2013 13:36:07 GMT -5

Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 2, 2013 13:40:18 GMT -5

Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 2, 2013 13:43:28 GMT -5

Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 24, 2013 14:34:42 GMT -5