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Post by Admin on Dec 16, 2013 15:30:32 GMT -5
This was submitted to me for posting here by the victim, G, who owns the little 8 lb dog who was mauled last year by JC's 80 lb dog in the Dog Run Area.
I will summarize the confrontation as I understood it during my face to face conversation with G.
It should be pointed out that there appears to be a developing pattern of harassment of G by MANBOD, who is recruiting UN-indemnified agents to conduct MANBOD made-up rules patrols and unauthorized law enforcement action against owners for their imaginary rules. Recall that G won his lawsuit against SLohA and was paid by Tower Hill for the thousands of dollars on vet bills for his dog's injuries by JC's dog. Also recall the JC has never offered to pay a dime for the damage his dog caused to G's pet.
G has received one "Violations" letter since the lawsuit was settled in his favor. It appears that MANBOD is poised to send him another, in addition to molesting, threatening and physically pursuing him in our common area with his dogs. Is this retaliation for suing SLohA when JC did not compensate G for the damage?
Or is MANBOD just plain stupid?
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Post by BagLady on Dec 16, 2013 20:41:59 GMT -5
I 100% agree that a informational case should be filed with Polk County Sheriff. This kind of confrontational behavior is provocative and threatening--and can have unintended consequences. It should be documented in case of further aggression.
I have filed an informational report on an individual in here who made public threatening statements against me. I have a case number. I would not hesitate to file a report again if approached in this manner by an individual in here despite the fact that I have a concealed permit (due to my extensive motorhome travel). Frankly, there are some unhinged people in here and there is an appalling lack of judgement.
The BOD would be wise to remember that Florida has a "stand your ground" law and this has had disastrous consequences for a Florida HOA and fatal consequences for a young man.
And "govern themselves accordingly" as the lawyers like to say.
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Post by Known Unknown Guest on Dec 16, 2013 21:15:20 GMT -5
The Sheriffs Deputy may also recall my informational interview which resulted in PCSD assigning a case number to the harassment ,vandalism of my RV, Security running my wife off the road in the park while on duty , and those employees admitting to either "being instructed to do so" & "acting on my boss' behalf" to me in face to face conversations .
I also have a digital disc of a Director of the Board verbally attacking me and using intimidation against me .
There should be no doubt that we will protect ourselves against this Illegal aggression and that the Polk County Sheriffs Deputy has informed us that we may do so with deadly force if necessary as Florida has the "Stand Your Ground Law" .
With the volatile environment the Manager and the BOD has created in SLR residents should know that it is not the people creating the liability but the MANBOD who is going to cost SLohA a fortune in not only law suit settlements and, up to, and including loss of life, as they have been and continue acting beyond their fiduciary duty and that Tower/Hill will NOT cover MANBOD under the indemnification for criminal acts .
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Post by Casper the Friendly Guest on Dec 17, 2013 7:40:01 GMT -5
What is disturbing about all this is that Residents believe MANBOD is always correct and have done the proper research and have followed all Guidelines in everything that MANBOD does.
Some Residents willingly go into situations blindly on that alone not knowing they are putting themselves in harms way.
Being ignorant and claiming "I didn't know anything about Common Property rule expiration in 2007" or "These Restrictive signs are Rules made by the Board & Manager so they must be right" wont help any of them as a defense in Court .
Add the fact that SOME Residents personally go after others "on behalf of my boss" without considering the position they have thrust themselves into may result in Arrest for Intimidation (otherwise know as SIMPLE BATTERY) will start a Legal process and they themselves will be held personally accountable for their actions.
I strongly doubt Management will claim any responsibility in helping defend these self appointed AGENTS trying to enforce rules that have no teeth nor have been properly executed as set forth by rules governing the process and that person will need to request those documents from the Office to help defend their actions. However, these documents do not exist .
Just a little side note: Assuming that because you are ignorant and having done ZERO research and that everyone else involved is equally as ignorant might be your biggest mistake . It seems that some MUST learn the hard way and quite possibly have to deal with being Arrested, Jailed, Bonded out for Bail , Hiring a Defense Attorney , Court Costs , and at the very worst being convicted of a Criminal Act with Prison time with a MINIMUM of ONE YEAR in Federal Prison for a Hate Crime . This also applies to Canadians .
And one more thing, anyone putting themselves up against someone and not considering what another is capable of and making threatening and intimidating motions may just get you shot such as in the Zimmerman/Martin case ....
The number one rule when being confronted by an armed person is to RUN .
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 17, 2013 14:57:26 GMT -5
What is disturbing about all this is that Residents believe MANBOD is always correct and have done the proper research and have followed all Guidelines in everything that MANBOD does. Some Residents willingly go into situations blindly on that alone not knowing they are putting themselves in harms way. Being ignorant and claiming "I didn't know anything about Common Property rule expiration in 2007" or "These Restrictive signs are Rules made by the Board & Manager so they must be right" wont help any of them as a defense in Court . Add the fact that SOME Residents personally go after others "on behalf of my boss" without considering the position they have thrust themselves into may result in Arrest for Intimidation (otherwise know as SIMPLE BATTERY) will start a Legal process and they themselves will be held personally accountable for their actions. I strongly doubt Management will claim any responsibility in helping defend these self appointed AGENTS trying to enforce rules that have no teeth nor have been properly executed as set forth by rules governing the process and that person will need to request those documents from the Office to help defend their actions. However, these documents do not exist . Just a little side note: Assuming that because you are ignorant and having done ZERO research and that everyone else involved is equally as ignorant might be your biggest mistake . It seems that some MUST learn the hard way and quite possibly have to deal with being Arrested, Jailed, Bonded out for Bail , Hiring a Defense Attorney , Court Costs , and at the very worst being convicted of a Criminal Act with Prison time with a MINIMUM of ONE YEAR in Federal Prison for a Hate Crime . This also applies to Canadians . And one more thing, anyone putting themselves up against someone and not considering what another is capable of and making threatening and intimidating motions may just get you shot such as in the Zimmerman/Martin case .... The number one rule when being confronted by an armed person is to RUN . Take Heed Peeps, the above is all TRUE and FACTUAL and ye best believe it. |
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 17, 2013 15:02:26 GMT -5
The Sheriffs Deputy may also recall my informational interview which resulted in PCSD assigning a case number to the harassment ,vandalism of my RV, Security running my wife off the road in the park while on duty , and those employees admitting to either "being instructed to do so" & "acting on my boss' behalf" to me in face to face conversations . I also have a digital disc of a Director of the Board verbally attacking me and using intimidation against me . There should be no doubt that we will protect ourselves against this Illegal aggression and that the Polk County Sheriffs Deputy has informed us that we may do so with deadly force if necessary as Florida has the "Stand Your Ground Law" . With the volatile environment the Manager and the BOD has created in SLR residents should know that it is not the people creating the liability but the MANBOD who is going to cost SLohA a fortune in not only law suit settlements and, up to, and including loss of life, as they have been and continue acting beyond their fiduciary duty and that Tower/Hill will NOT cover MANBOD under the indemnification for criminal acts . All of the above is all TRUE and FACTUAL, and they better believe it. |
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Post by Bird Turd being watched II on Dec 17, 2013 16:49:14 GMT -5
Not sure if it grievance or violations committee - as you can see I used both in the post above.
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Post by BagLady on Dec 17, 2013 17:41:23 GMT -5
Would BirdTurd have behaved in this way without the support and encouragement of JC/IT? Is the Board even aware of what is going on under their noses? Or are they too busy trying to figure out a way to make money off the K C deal?
I believe that HH has proven to be a very poor choice to be on the Violations Committee as he obviously does not understand the role and is easily swayed by the agenda of others.
In the bigger picture, what is MANBOD thinking when it attempts to subvert the process by tainting a member who is supposed to listen to the rule breaker at an "arbitration type" meeting? Can anyone take a "Violations" Committee seriously when members are obviously subject to the hidden agenda of MANBOD and act as MANBOD's proxy in the roles of accuser, prosecutor and judge? Absurd!
It makes me more certain than ever that the real goal of MANBOD is not to gain compliance to rules ie there have been NO "real" rules broken". It is to harass, intimidate and create dissension in the community by enlisting others to bully targeted owners.
There is no good to come to SLR from this management company.
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 17, 2013 21:14:13 GMT -5
It makes me more certain than ever that the real goal of MANBOD is not to gain compliance to rules ie there have been NO "real" rules broken". It is to harass, intimidate and create dissension in the community by enlisting others to bully targeted owners. There is no good to come to SLR from this management company. You got that right, look at all the ill shit they've done thus far by pitting one resident against another or a group against a single resident; they look at that as positive, getting their way using psychological warfare. |
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