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Post by Father Justice on Dec 29, 2013 9:34:05 GMT -5
Some DO have "Pacemakers" , many of us have the "PEACEMAKER" . Long Live the 2nd Amendment NRA Life Member
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Post by bagladyonfire on Dec 29, 2013 10:02:25 GMT -5
What the H* is going on around here? This morning at 8:30am I am enjoying a peaceful morning with my coffee and some unknown man passes quickly by my front door within 5 feet--causing my dog to go NUTS, practically giving me a heart attack and setting off my motion light and security camera.
I gathered my frazzled self up and flew out the door to talk to the guy. I told him what his crossing over my private property had caused and he was lucky I didn't have a pacemaker. I asked him to RESPECT my private property and use the EASEMENT for the purpose of water meter reading in the future.
IT--That's what easements are for! Train your people to have some respect for people's property and privacy and use the utility easement! Do your job even if YOU do not have any respect. The reader meter and I did not have a pleasant encounter and that is not fair to him because he is taking his instructions from his MAMBOSS who obviously has no respect for residents' privacy and comfort.
I informed him he was now on notice with ME despite any instructions he might be getting to the contrary. His presence on the non-easement part of my property will be considered willful trespass and easily documented if I observe it again.
MANBOD:the water meter reader does not have the right to enter my property to access utilities--use the utility easement!
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Post by Im Trying on Dec 29, 2013 10:57:37 GMT -5
I retired from a Electrical Cooperative, all outside employees had to wear uniforms, that included a cap, and the Cooperative's bold Logo. It was very important that our meter readers could be identified easily. SLR's outside employees dress like vagabonds or day-workers. Does SLR have a dress code? I think not... O-Yes, we could use the Famous Phone-Vite, Alert !!! Water Meter Readers Roaming The Resort Today, Plus Bath-House # 2 is Closed For Cleaning....
In a True Resort the personnel dress like professionals and behave like professionals. Big Difference!!!
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Post by Guest on Sept 28, 2014 15:51:15 GMT -5
Not sure where this goes but will post here. This morning (Sunday, Sept 28th) I was surprised to come face to face with a guy reading the water meters. I thought SLR was NOT to have any contract workers come in on Sundays. Is this another instance of the mgr doing what ever she wants and the BOD allowing it?? Well if the mgr & BOD can't follow the rules, then why should I? !!!!
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Post by Broke & Poor on Nov 5, 2014 10:36:41 GMT -5
After monitoring this site for many months there is only on conclusion you can come to, you people are nothing but a bunch of cry babies who are afraid to run for the board of directors. It's apparent ya'll can moan but don't have the grapes to do anything about the situation. Now for my subject: I am sick and tired of paying for all you 50 cent millionaire permanent residents water and sewer bills. I spoke with my attorney, after reviewing the changes made, such as now you are not required to have an RV on your lot but can have a manufactured home this changes the structure of what was once considered to be a vacation resort. When a snow bird leaves for the season, Duck Engerny puts people on their vacation rate as should be since we use no Elctc during our stay away period. My Attorneys conclusion is SLR is biased, dishonest and unethical in regards to the water and sewer charges and are liable in a court of law. I am most anxious to see if this is posted or will it be UNDER QUARANTINE.
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Post by Bystander on Nov 5, 2014 12:09:12 GMT -5
After monitoring this site for many months there is only on conclusion you can come to, you people are nothing but a bunch of cry babies who are afraid to run for the board of directors. It's apparent ya'll can moan but don't have the grapes to do anything about the situation. Oh Broke n Poor - I sure wish you would research before you place your foot in your mouth. My Husband and the Admin for this forum as well as Mik Readinger (RIP), Jew-D A and Rick M ran for the board 3 years ago. WHERE THE HELL WHERE YOU?
I personally helped as secretary on the new Annex building committee under NorleeDee (that was something sitting there listening to him knock my friends in front of me) and I was on the Bingo committee when it changed over from Donald (RIP), I also offered to be on the sound committee but that boys club never called, so I guess they don't need help.
Isn't there some saying about a Fool opening his own mouth?? At any rate you sure stuck your foot in your mouth on this one!
Karen Park
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Post by BagLady on Nov 5, 2014 12:15:21 GMT -5
Broke & Poor wrote:
Welcome to the Forum Broke but that was not a good start. If you will recall, 5 crybaby owners ran for the board in 2012. The subsequent Beat the Candidates (previously Meet the Candidates) meeting was a bashing of epic proportions, with setup questions, a written diatribe by everyone's favorite director, D-bag--3 hours of torture for all in attendance. Needless to say, after witnessing what those 5 people endured at the hands of the incumbent board, few would be willing to subject themselves to such abuse again. Despite that, there are many who WOULD serve if it meant getting rid of this Management company and the board.
Au contraire, Mr Broke. The people in here ARE doing something about the current situation. First, there is this Forum (that I administer) where anyone can come and read and post and become aware of and educated about the "situation" as well as park news. Second, owners are reaching OUTSIDE the resort for relief from certain situations i.e. police, code enforcement and others. Third, owners are entering into lawsuits against the Association when communication and participation is shut down and deep divides cannot be breached from within--one has few civil remedies short of a lawsuit to compel the board to comply with the law.
And, I might add that not only did I run for a board seat, I also served on the Election Committee, served as a Block Captain on CERT and offered to serve on the Rulebook Committee (I was snubbed on that one-those with "differing opinions" are apparently not welcome on Committees.) I also attended every single board workshop and board meeting for the first two years I was here and transcribed the unofficial meeting minutes on the forum for all to read so that people who could not attend had some idea of what was happening at the meetings. Mik Readinger videorecorded and posted a KK meeting for the snowbirds so they could virtually attend KK and keep up with park news, and was immediately hit with a "cease and desist" letter from management's lawyer. Add to that my "informal" service of providing computer help--without charge--to anyone who encounters a computer hiccup. Finally, there are two projects NOW in the planning St ages to give material assistance to owners in here-both projects are being developed by "the grapeless". So, I don't think you are on the mark with the "grapes" characterization.
What an extraordinary point of view! I have never considered that water and sewer charges were a matter of interest. Is this legal opinion based on the functional changes from RV lots use to mobile homes? Or something in the governing documents or common law? I would be very interested in knowing exactly what law or legal doctrine your attorney is basing his opinion on. As far as I know, SLohA equally divides W & S among the total owner parcels, per the governing documents. Does your attorney believe that this is inequitable and if so, why? Please share some detail.
I approved your quarantined post (all guest posts are automatically quarantined) because it was relevant to park affairs and the content not abusive. There are few rules for posting here. This forum is for ALL residents with differing opinions.
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Post by Bystander on Nov 5, 2014 13:06:35 GMT -5
After monitoring this site for many months there is only on conclusion you can come to, you people are nothing but a bunch of cry babies who are afraid to run for the board of directors. It's apparent ya'll can moan but don't have the grapes to do anything about the situation. Oh Broke n Poor - I sure wish you would research before you place your foot in your mouth. My Husband and the Admin for this forum as well as Mik Readinger (RIP) ran for the board 3 years ago. WHERE THE HELL WHERE YOU?
I personally helped as secretary on the new Annex building committee under NorleeDee (that was something sitting there listening to him knock my friends in front of me) and I was on the Bingo committee when it changed over from Donald (RIP), I also offered to be on the sound committee but that boys club never called, so I guess they don't need help.
Isn't there some saying about a Fool opening his own mouth?? At any rate you sure stuck your foot in your mouth on this one!
Karen Park
I forgot to add Jew-D Ath (Jm's wife) and Rick M. that RAN for the BOD at that time also. Please forgive my overlook on your part Jew-D and Rick. ~~Karen
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Post by Dick Tracy on Nov 5, 2014 15:54:21 GMT -5
Broke & Poor, Welcome to the Resident Forum. I would like to add to the conversation about the cry babies. If you had done any research you would have notice the following: The TWO letter-writing campaigns sponsored by the folks you say have no grapes-each letter signed by over 50 owners that resulted in forcing the BOD to get a legal opinion and eventually contributing to the defeat of the mandatory internet assessment.
...and don't overlook those grapeless people who organized a news article in the Ledger about the proposed illegal internet assessment
...and remember that the grapeless group also sponsored, with the help of an attorney, a Petition to change the rules to eliminate architectural overview by the board and defer to Polk County only. The petition was signed by over 60 people.
...and let's not forget the several letters written to the BOD telling them that allowing the management company to sign SLohA checks was not only a really really bad idea--but that it was violated SLohA Bylaws.
...and let's not forget the e-legal Bingo donation, with managements approval. And was later paid back to the Bingo's account, by order of the State of Fl.
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Post by Anita Gofradump on Nov 5, 2014 22:57:01 GMT -5
After monitoring this site for many months there is only on conclusion you can come to, you people are nothing but a bunch of cry babies who are afraid to run for the board of directors. It's apparent ya'll can moan but don't have the grapes to do anything about the situation. Now for my subject: I am sick and tired of paying for all you 50 cent millionaire permanent residents water and sewer bills. I spoke with my attorney, after reviewing the changes made, such as now you are not required to have an RV on your lot but can have a manufactured home this changes the structure of what was once considered to be a vacation resort. When a snow bird leaves for the season, Duck Engerny puts people on their vacation rate as should be since we use no Elctc during our stay away period. My Attorneys conclusion is SLR is biased, dishonest and unethical in regards to the water and sewer charges and are liable in a court of law. I am most anxious to see if this is posted or will it be UNDER QUARANTINE. Some of the people on this forum DID run for the board, but even tho they had the support, there was some strange things going on w/ the ballots--board members were seen leaving w/fistfuls of them--problem is, board members are not supposed to touch the ballots. the excuse was there were being taken to election committee chairperson's house--this is violation of our election rules. Needless to say, the incumbent board members got in w/ a landslide--how convenient. It appears they "control" the ballot box, so to speak.
Also, the permanent residents had nothing to do with the way the water charges are billed, so NO, YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR OUR WATER AND SEWER BILLS. However, I do agree, it's unfair for those who are away for the summer to pay for water/sewer when their meter clearly has not changed. I also agree w/ you that SLR is dishonest, biased and unethical w/this regard. Thanks for the post, and no it's not quaranteened.
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Post by Admin on Nov 5, 2014 23:40:55 GMT -5
Anita Gofradump:
Question: Why is it unfair to require all owners to pay equal share for water that they do not use for 8-9 months of the year and (theoretically) fair to charge seasonal visitors for garbage collection, street lights, recreation facilities, security gate etc when these amenities are likewise used only 3-4 months annually? This seems like a very old complaint that most owners understand to be one of the effects of being in an HOA.
SLohA owns and operates an amenity--a wastewater plant--which serves only the Members of the HOA. SLohA is charged as a bulk consumer of water. As an amenity, owners are required to pay a proportionate share of the cost of operating, maintaining and replacing the amenity. As with ALL amenities, it makes no difference if the owner uses it. The governing documents require that owners pay for its existence in equal share.
Further, SLohA has no authority to individually charge owners for metered water consumption and if it wanted to do that, it would have to first apply and agree to be regulated by gobs of government red tape (Public Service Commission).
Perhaps owners would like to ask the Board to look into de-commissioning SLohA's aged wastewater plant and seek service with an outside private or municipal provider. Then, only metered consumption of water would be billed (along with the $10,000+ that would be attached to the parcel for retooling infrastructure.)
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Nov 6, 2014 8:37:15 GMT -5
Here is my take on only paying for the water/sewer you use when "in park".......
It makes no difference how YOU feel about paying for a years worth of an amenity when you are only in park for a few months. Nobody forced anyone to buy into an "Open all year community", some folks have two or three other properties that they stay at seasonally and that's fine.
The choice was yours when you where interested in buying into SLR and the time to ask those types of questions would have been BEFORE your purchase. Saying anything past the purchase date is exactly what being a ''cry baby-pair of grape nuts" is. Time for a little reality check? I would say so!
We live here in SLR year round, we DONT use the amenities but can if we so desire. Never once have we felt any justification in moaning & droning on and on about things that would be a waste of time, such as complaining about something that just wont change by complaining.
In most cases, if you were to stop and think, take the time to work through your question, you could actually answer it before ever voicing your opinion and looking like you give no thought before you spoke as is evident with Broke & Poor.
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Post by jimherbst on Nov 6, 2014 9:01:03 GMT -5
I doubt if you actually have an attorney. Either that or your attorney is a complete idiot. Take a look at your municipal sewer/water bill back home. You will find that there is a service charge as well as a usage charge. The service charge is assessed to all utility customers whether they are using water or not for that billing period. Its purpose is to help pay for the municipal utility's capital costs (wells, hydrants, lift stations, sewerage treatment facility, etc). Or did you think those millions needed for all this equipment fell off a turnip truck? You comments remind me of that guy in Tennessee who complained that the volunteer fire department let his house-trailer burn down because he hadn't paid his fire district subscription. He told the newspapers that he would have willingly paid for the firefighters time. Sure thing, bro... The average pay-per-call for a volunteer firefighter is around $50. On the other hand, a Pierce ladder truck costs around $300,000 and a pumper truck costs around $500,000. A fully equipped paramedic vehicle costs around $100,000. And then you need a building to house all this apparatus. And wouldn't it be great if insurance companies only charged you a premium when you filed a claim.
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Nov 6, 2014 10:04:17 GMT -5
Sounds to me like Mr. Broke & Poor is the whiney cry-baby here. If he didn't know what the YEAR-ROUND fees would be before he bought in here, that's NOT our faults. Besides, since you obviously own (at least) 2 properties, one in SLR and the other up North somewhere, then you should already know what utility costs you are going to incur going in.
Also Mr. Broke & Poor just rambles on about things he thinks he knows just because he's read this forum for a few months, it's a lot more involved than that. There are those of us year-round residents that are doing a lot more behind the scenes to help other owners who have been harassed, betrayed, belittled, victims of crimes, and lied to by this board and this management co. than you'll ever know!
Mr. Broke & Poor: before you think about bashing those on this forum again, please, just remember this: we are working on solutions to make this park a better place to live--and that is a far more productive thing that is needed now, more than ever.
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Nov 6, 2014 21:14:25 GMT -5
Broke & Poor wrote: "My Attorneys conclusion is SLR is biased, dishonest and unethical in regards to the water and sewer charges and are liable in a court of law. I am most anxious to see if this is posted or will it be UNDER QUARANTINE."
We are all anxious to see your attorney's opinion in writing......waiting.....
yawn.......crickets.......more of both....
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