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Post by Admin on Oct 15, 2013 12:21:50 GMT -5
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March 16, 2013
I see this around the corner--attempts by the self-appointed peacekeepers to enforce traffic signs (how many of THOSE will we pay for be subjected to?) Note that there MUST be a written agreement with Polk County and HOA providing reimbursement of all costs and HOA would have to insure deputies against injury due to Senior Rage and possible dangerous encounters with dog poop...
Florida Statutes, Sections 316.640(2)(a) and 316.640(3)(a) Grnt the Sheriff’s office and municipal police departments jurisdiction to enforce the traffic laws on all public streets throughout the County (for the Sheriff’s office) and throughout the city limits (for the municipal police department). In addition and of paramount importance to community associations, these statutes also Grnt the Sheriff’s office and municipal police departments jurisdiction to enforce the traffic laws on private or limited access roads, if there is a written agreement to do so between the community association and either the County or City.
Florida Statutes, Sections 316.006(2)(b) and 316.006(3)(b) govern the written agreements between either the County or City and a community association. The written agreement for traffic control jurisdiction over the private road or roads encompassed by such agreement must provide for reimbursement for the actual costs; for liability insurance and indemnification by Association. Other terms and conditions may be included as well. The law specifically allows the board of directors of a homeowners’ association to contract to have state traffic laws enforced by local law enforcement agencies on private roads that are controlled by the association with a majority vote.
A similar law was recently cH allenged in Illinois and the Plaintiff lost; it was decided that "if an HOA had the power to have private roads, they also have the power to manage behavior related to road use". _________________________________________________
March 16, 2013
PCSD stated that they CAN NOT and WILL NOT enforce any type of Stop Sign Violations in SLR. The reason being that the Stop Signs in SLR do not have a Traffic Engineers Study, are not properly installed according the the FL Uniform Traffic Code Manual and that the Stop Signs in SLR are NOT FLDOT approved Stop Signs.
All FLDOT Signage has a yellow sticker on the back of each sign stating they are approved and FLDOT regulated signs.
PCSD has also said even if they see someone run a Stop Sign in SLR they would NOT pursue the violator as they cannot issue even a warning because of Illegal Signage. PCSD also stated they would lose in Court for any cH allenge involving non FLDOT signage. ________________________________________________
March 16, 2013
So does this mean that the stop signs are not legal ? If so then one would be breaking the law by stopping at them ? ______________________________________________ March 16, 2013
As far as Resort Security is concerned The Sheriffs Dept. has personally told me that the authority of Resort Security STOPS at the front gate, the Sign in Book and the Gate Switch.
Resort Security has NO AUTHORITY to conduct ANY form of Traffic Stops.
However Mr. Exxxxx (former security) had pulled into the oncoming traffic lane to stop a resident and as a result forced the other driver to take evasive action to avoid a head on collision with the Security/Office van.
When questioned Mr. Exxxxx stated that "That is what I was instructed to do."
Had there been a collision even w/out injury SLR would have been in a Lawsuit and Mr. Exxxxx would have been arrested and jailed for 1. Impersonating Law Enforcement 2. Conducting an Illegal Traffic Stop. 3. Using a Vehicle as a Weapon w/Intent to cause damage and Bodily Harm (road rage).
All Class 1 Felonies
SLR management had better wake up and so should the Owners that would be paying the Summary Judgement to the Defendant. ________________________________________________-
March 17, 2013
Why does this Board of Directors have this attitude towards the very Community they live in ? Our resort wasn't like this just a few years ago.
I cant understand why so many good and friendly people are so willing to go along with what they hear and not think that there may be some sort of manipulation going on behind the scenes and decide to check things out on their own. Maybe they just aren't capable of thinking for themselves and rationalizing anymore ? ____________________________________________________
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Post by Admin on Oct 15, 2013 13:11:59 GMT -5
Cross-post from AnonNews
August 13, 2013
George Zimmerman's attorneys: Unseal HOA settlement with Trayvon's parents April 11, 2013|By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
Attorneys for George Zimmerman on Thursday filed paperwork, asking a judge to unseal details of a $1 million-plus settlement that a homeowners association paid the parents of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed black 17-year-old killed last year by a Sanford Neighborhood Watch volunteer.
It doesn't matter what one's "point of view" is on this case to understand that HOA-sponsored vigilanteeism and quasi-police powers can cost owners lots of money. _____________________________________________ August 14, 2013
A little sense of false Authority in the wrong hands can be very costly.
" An armed society is a polite society " " Never underestimate your opponent " " Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" " Don't get even, get ahead " " Payback is a bitch "
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Post by Law Abiding Citizen on Nov 29, 2013 9:11:20 GMT -5
Nobody needs to worry about getting in trouble for rolling through a Stop Sign in SLR . I have witnessed A Director on the BOD's cruise right through them and if its ok for DB its ok for other residents .
Do you remember adjusting your mirror several times to try and see who busted you DB ?
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Post by Rebel just because I can on Nov 29, 2013 13:34:05 GMT -5
I have no problem running the signs after witnessing IT & BOD doing it. Give me a dirty look and I will wave back with a smile. You can thank your BOD for that.
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Post by Anon Guest Person on Dec 2, 2013 9:43:49 GMT -5
I have no problem running the signs after witnessing IT & BOD doing it. Give me a dirty look and I will wave back with a smile. You can thank your BOD for that. oh, you're such a rebel-rouser!
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Post by a-Rouser on Dec 2, 2013 10:50:04 GMT -5
I thought that was rabble-rouser! Maybe rebel-rouser is a new and improved--and accurate--term!
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 2, 2013 16:35:05 GMT -5
I like to mix it up with all rebels, rousers, a-rousers, rabble-rousers and rebel-rousers--(my newest) and any others that want to step up, speak up and mix it up.
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Post by J. Grnt on Mar 6, 2014 16:27:34 GMT -5
Just to clear up the lies and misleading information from DB at the meeting of 3-6-14.
DB you lied to the audience, you did not tell people that you leaned out of your cart and blurted out an order to me "YOU BETTER STOP AT THE STOP SIGNS!" And you did continue on as you had already stopped and proceeded while following the auto ahead of you in the middle of the intersection. I was going less than 2MPH and saw absolutely no reason to come to a complete stop. Yes that's right; I said it.
DB you are not any form of enforcement, not my boss and have no right to bark orders at me as I had previously stated. No Death threats were made to you by myself, you might want to have a chat with DJ @ xx xx (*Edit by Admin) about his death threat made to people of differing opinions and those that oppose the BOD for those reasons only. The comment I made was to the person that said those of us of differing opinions would be carried out on a board if necessary, I used the wrong initials and I now retract them and insert the user of the computer that made the threat on xxx xxxxx. Accept that as my apology.
Once again I call you a coward, you won't man up and have a simple conversation with me, instead you are using your bully-pulpit position on the board to try and turn the attention away from yourself and your lies.
What you are doing is harassment, you won't tell me what your beef is with me for some reason. You have no proof of anything that YOU think I may have done wrong. If you did you would present it, this is the very reason you won't speak with me. And that is a coward in any man's eyes.
I laugh at your idiocy, I am out on the streets of SLR most of the day and I see more people of your generation rolling thru stop signs, in fact, AK had backed right out in front of oncoming traffic, without looking, and nearly was ran into. I've seen many of the board members roll thru stop signs, speeding and not yielding. Where are you then? You are not responsible for our actions, you are not behind the wheel of our vehicles, you are obsessed over us for some reason and you had better check yourself. I have plenty in my defense against your constant aggression towards my Wife and I. Please read this open comment to you at your next most convenient opportunity such as you did at todays meeting, but the smart money says you wont.
Sincerely and HONESTLY
J. Grnt
Just a note to anyone interested, I still possess my Commercial Class A drivers license and have had a Class A CDL since its inception by the Federal Government .
I am highly skilled in all types of heavy equipment operation and its transportation . I have a spotless driving history both with my private vehicles and also multi million dollars worth of State of Alaska equipment used to maintain the highest level of public safety to travelers from around the world on commercial airlines.
So don't let anyone lead you to believe that I am running stop signs at 40 mph in my golf cart or car with my hair on fire and my eyes closed not caring about anyone or anything . The person doing all the talking at the meeting has the problem, I can prove what I say to anyone at any time and I stand by that .
(notice I didn't have to mention that my wife can back that up like the director at the meeting?) ;+)
*Editor Note: I have seen no Proof of an exact address or person where this message originated; only a computer IP address. The signal came from K C N and if supoenaed, K C N would be required to produce the address of the sender. Until there is proof of where the address came from, it is speculative and cannot be published here.)
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Mar 6, 2014 16:49:43 GMT -5
Nobody needs to worry about getting in trouble for rolling through a Stop Sign in SLR . I have witnessed A Director on the BOD's cruise right through them and if its ok for DB its ok for other residents . Do you remember adjusting your mirror several times to try and see who busted you DB ?
Just thought this previously posted incident needed to be brought back out to the forefront, as well as the fact that DB feels the rules are made for everyone except him (and the rest of his cronies.)
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Mar 6, 2014 16:58:23 GMT -5
I have no problem running the signs after witnessing IT & BOD doing it. Give me a dirty look and I will wave back with a smile. You can thank your BOD for that. Here's another example found--that's not setting a good one--and this time it's the both the board and the manager running stop signs.
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Post by Neutral Owner on Mar 6, 2014 22:15:56 GMT -5
At the meeting today DB stated "WE ARE GETTING DEATH THREATS" and then said they are giving it to the attorneys.
My question is how much will it cost SLohA for the attorney to say "CALL THE COPS?"
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Mar 6, 2014 22:52:16 GMT -5
At the meeting today DB stated "WE ARE GETTING DEATH THREATS" and then said they are giving it to the attorneys. My question is how much will it cost SLohA for the attorney to say "CALL THE COPS?" Once again the BS from DB must be cleared away to get at the truth:
DB lied at the meeting today regarding death threats--NO DEATH THREATS AGAINST ANY BOARD MEMBER HAVE EVER BEEN MADE ON THIS FORUM!
There was however a death threat coming from a computer with an IP address at xx sss ssss (*Edit by Admin). This owner that had this death threat lobbed at him has opinions--and facts to back them up, that are different from the board's, so this owner had to be threatened?
This is what these "vigilantes" do that support wrongdoing by the board--they are the only ones making death threats.
Dbag once again had to lie and puff himself up in front of the community. What an utterly pitiful, disgusting and shameful display of his abuse of his position on the board. Then, didn't even give the gentleman he lied about the opportunity to rebut his bullshit.
Same thing happened when DB (probably) used SLohA attorney funds to investigate this same owner that he has had a vendetta against. The only thing that happened here is that this owner that was investigated by DB wasn't even the same person(s)--and I'm glad another owner spoke up at that meeting and asked DB if he would get investigated also if he had opinions that differed with DB.
This board has gone to idiotic extremes with this type of behavior and has spun totally out of control with their arrogance, lies and wasteful spending of our hard earned retirement dollars.
P.S. VOTE NO ON THIS BUDGET AS WELL--THIS WILL SEND A MESSAGE TO THEM THAT WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE STINKIN' INCREASES! NO MEANS NO--WE SAID IT BEFORE AND WE'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
*Editor Note: I have seen no Proof of an exact address or person where this message originated; only a computer IP address. The signal came from K C N and if supoenaed, K C N would be required to produce the address of the sender. Until there is proof of where the address came from, it is speculative and cannot be pubished here.)
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Post by Old Geezer on Mar 7, 2014 6:22:43 GMT -5
At the meeting today DB stated "WE ARE GETTING DEATH THREATS" Every morning I get out of bed its a death threat when you are as old as I am. Its about time someone stood up to this bunch of hooligans that sit on their high horse and act like Tyrants on the street to just a few residents that oppose their wrong doings.
I will follow the advice of the people on this web site and not only vote no but ask my friends to do the same and explain why. Then I will point them in the direction of this web site so they can read the truth.
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Post by Admin on Mar 7, 2014 7:12:26 GMT -5
From a comment from DB at the Mar 6, 2014 Workshop: I assure anyone who reads this: ANYONE who made a death threat on this forum would be immediately banned. I would recognize and react to a death threat as I recently did to PSYCHO MAN. The threat itself would not be removed to preserve evidence.
DBAG is spewing propaganda against the Forum and, it has the same effect as negative publicity does--it generates even more interest and readers. Good work, DBAG.
So, if the lies you are spreading are true--bring it on--show me the meat!
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Mar 7, 2014 9:03:08 GMT -5
At the meeting today DB stated "WE ARE GETTING DEATH THREATS" Every morning I get out of bed its a death threat when you are as old as I am. Its about time someone stood up to this bunch of hooligans that sit on their high horse and act like Tyrants on the street to just a few residents that oppose their wrong doings.
I will follow the advice of the people on this web site and not only vote no but ask my friends to do the same and explain why. Then I will point them in the direction of this web site so they can read the truth.
Thanks! Old Geezer, for your support and that of your friends. DB is just pissed, blowing off steam, and can't think to speak properly; not even to tell the truth; NO DBAG! we want you alive and well so you can continue to screw up and be properly recognized and thanked for doing so. Because when the chips fall--and they will FALL in buckets; they will fall all over you cronies on the board.
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Post by Im Trying on Mar 8, 2014 3:47:00 GMT -5
The Only Death Threat May Come from Outer-Space. DB at a BOD Work-Shop, a few weeks back, was talking about Spaceships from Outer Space Flying Over SLR. And A Large Meteor Could Land in SLR's Lake. This is Crazy Talk from a SLR Director. You Can Not Make This Stuff-Up. I would not give much credit to any thing this Director states. He also stated that He Does Not Have any connection with BS & Kay c Net. Nor has he made any profit from Kay c. But DB does have a couple of Kay c's Commercial Type Antennas located on DB's Unusually High Pitch Roof on His Resident's Home on SLR's Trail. But He Denies Any Connection to Our Kay c Residents Internet Business, Located on Grey Hackle. He is also tired of the so called Abuse aimed at him....He talked about that issue, from his BOD chair on the St age at The Special BOD Meeting. Well, I guess he Sold His Cargo Trailer, that was the Cargo Trailer he gave a Sales Pitch to the BODs and the SLR's Members at a BOD Meeting. That would be the Cargo Trailer DB & Kay c xxT used to place all of the Internet Equipment Components and parked it for several months, next to the Tennis Court Fence. This was during the Annex Construction. But, he does not have Any Ties to BS & Kay c-xxxxxxx. "Hog Wash"!!!
I am tired of all of his Bologna, know it all Talk... O-Yes, The Sewer Plant Had A Major Belch Over The Weekend, Spewing A Few Hundred Gals. of Human Waste Around The Plant and Out onto The Storage Road. Then Brooker's 2 Trucks Removed Several Thousand Gallons of Solid Waste From The Sewer Plant. I do not Believe The EPA was Involved in The Clean-Up of Waste...
Life Of SLR's Sewer Plant DB quoted is, with proper maintenance (40YRS)..
We Have "39 1/2 Years To Go!!! "I wish The Plant Good Luck"... jma
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Post by FunJab on Mar 8, 2014 6:13:37 GMT -5
I wonder if the BOD parade float will have a police escort with all the death threats that DB claims they have been getting ?
Wear your foil hat D , the Aliens are after what little brains you have left if any !
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Post by CALL 911 ! on Apr 2, 2014 8:00:34 GMT -5
Brookers came through the gate and didn't sign in AND the driver DID NOT STOP at any of the stop signs this morning @ 8:30.
Scramble the BOD ! Scramble the Security Force!
Scramble DB the wannabee stop sign enforcer !
LMAO
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Post by shitbird on Apr 2, 2014 8:10:55 GMT -5
I fell like a shitbird..people come around selling wolf tickets and now somebody cash one in and he can not collect on it.."Shit BIRD means JUST GOES AROUND AN SHITS ALL OVER NO RIME OR REASON".Just like security..LOL
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Post by Admin on Apr 3, 2014 9:04:33 GMT -5
Gosh, I have lost track of something here. I don't understand the references here to "wolf tickets" and cashing in etc. Could you be more explicit for the linear thinkers (like me)?
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