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Post by Admin on Apr 8, 2014 5:49:59 GMT -5
Recently, a complaint was made to the Board that the Library was locked "most of the time" and the hours of operation were too constricted for a vacation resort setting. The Board declared that they had no control over Clubs and that they would have to work things out for themselves. Well--OK. Here is the new and improved "24/7" library being remodelled to accommodate books and puzzles available on a 24/7 basis. J im and Lra are busy with power tools securing solid surface shelves over the wired shelving so that books will not "fall through" the spaces in the wired shelving. Gngr and S u e "stood by" to supervise the operation and sort books! More shelving is needed to properly stack puzzles to prevent accidental dropping of puzzle boxes being pulled out from the bottom! Attachment Deleted
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Apr 8, 2014 7:28:43 GMT -5
Recently, a complaint was made to the Board that the Library was locked "most of the time" and the hours of operation were too constricted for a vacation resort setting. The Board declared that they had no control over Clubs and that they would have to work things out for themselves. Well--OK. Here is the new and improved "24/7" library being remodelled to accommodate books and puzzles available on a 24/7 basis. J im and Lra are busy with power tools securing solid surface shelves over the wired shelving so that books will not "fall through" the spaces in the wired shelving. Gngr and S u e "stood by" to supervise the operation and sort books! More shelving is needed to properly stack puzzles to prevent accidental dropping of puzzle boxes being pulled out from the bottom!
I'd like to know what happened to the shelving from the old library that was removed and was being sanded in the back maintenance area? It was presumed that this old shelving was being rehabbed for use in the new library. As we all know, mold remediation needed to be done to anything taken from the old annex that was to be re-used for the new annex. All these shelving boards were deposited in the large trailer in the shop area where they remained for a few months, subject to conditions of weather--namely rain water, until they disappeared. Where did this shelving go and also, what happened to the other materials that came out of the old annex--namely, the new doors and windows that were put in just prior to the old annex being condemned?
SLR residents were told that these new doors and windows would be used in the new annex to save money...but, they were not. So, then, what happened to these expensive building materials that were to be re-used in the new building?
Another observation: The board talked about moving the basketball hoop to a better area; however, the old hoop, backboard and pole, which was still a usable piece of sports equipment, was carelessly thrown in a pile of other debris in the corner of the maintenance yard by the water tank. If you look there, maintenance did not dismantle it so it could be stored for later use, rather, it was thrown onto the debris pile which caused it to break apart--essentially, they turned a usable piece of sports equipment into garbage when there was no reason to do so. It should have been properly dismantled and stored for later use--perhaps it could have been installed around the beach house area.
It's a shame when our community property has been carelessly treated, destroyed, or has disappeared, never to be seen in SLR again--and WHY?
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Post by BagLady on Apr 8, 2014 8:26:01 GMT -5
The ONLY way to make money is to spend money.
Saving, rehabbing, restoring, repairing--these activities do not generate money because very little money is spent.
It is much easier to throw useable materials into a heap and leave it sitting on the property somewhere for months until someone complains. Then, after everything is gone--people wonder "What happened to it?" By then, it is given away, rusted or otherwise unuseable.
So you end up having to spend money for a brand new whatchamacallit! And get to make money!
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Post by Eyes Wide Shut on Apr 8, 2014 9:56:13 GMT -5
The ONLY way to make money is to spend money. Saving, rehabbing, restoring, repairing--these activities do not generate money because very little money is spent. It is much easier to throw useable materials into a heap and leave it sitting on the property somewhere for months until someone complains. Then, after everything is gone--people wonder "What happened to it?" By then, it is given away, rusted or otherwise unuseable. So you end up having to spend money for a brand new whatchamacallit! And get to make money! I cant understand why this community is so complacent, our common areas including the Maintenance Yard have become storage lots for yards upon yards of broken concrete, fence that has been cut to facilitate the new generator and left unrepaired, a mountain of broken asphalt -concrete-roots and other assorted debris all heaped into one pile and left for months.
This is unacceptable. Why we have a manager that allows these eye sores to remain is beyond me, and the same goes for the maintenance foreman. These area's belong to all of us that live here and its looking like a dumping ground.
Spend some money and clean these messes up and keep the areas clean. If its too much work for our crew to do (NOT) or manager to see then stop rewarding them.
I fail to see the lack of organization when it comes to completing any job around SLR, once the leaves are done being chased around the parking lots w/leaf blowers then its time to clean up these piles that just keep growing and growing. Since our manager hires outside mowing and our maintenance crew seems to be diminishing or doing pet projects there isn't much in the way of doing a complete job.
Yet we constantly read and hear how everyone works so hard to keep SLR moving forward while property value is going backwards.
Many may chose mediocrity but I damn sure don't, do the job right from start to finish or go find another one.
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Apr 8, 2014 10:40:24 GMT -5
Post by Admin on Apr 8, 2014 10:40:24 GMT -5
Barely 16 hours later, the Board and IT met in executive session this morning (prior to the Special Meeting) to CLOSE DOWN another common area for use to members!
Recall the above post where Members and Volunteers followed up on the advice of the Board at the Board meeting on 3/19/14 after hearing a complaint from an Owner about the Library being closed. This was the pronouncement of the Board:
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS DONE--Members approached the Library Chairman to find a solution!
A Volunteer asked the Librarian if the Poker/Puzzle/Game room could be reorganized with some shelves to house books. The Librarian said "Great Idea-check with Management". The Volunteer is currently in a St age of litigation with "management" and has been advised not to engage in any conversation with BOD on anything. So, the Volunteer inquired with an Ex-Board member, who advised that Management had no jurisdiction over CLUBS and as long as it was OK with the Club chairman, it was OK. Based on that, the BOD's previous announcement and the Library Chairman's blessing, the project went forward and shelves began to be installed last night by several Volunteer helpers.
In swoops IT with the recommendation of the Board (who wanted nothing to do with Clubs 2 weeks ago), and gathers up the books and carries them off. The Librarian was TOLD by IT that the Poker/Puzzle/Game Room would be annexed as part of the LOCKED LIBRARY and off limits to owners at all times, except during Library Hours.
There was No Rationale offered by IT for the sudden and complete reversal by the Board, who previously absolved itself of involvement in Clubs' affairs. There was no objection by the Club Chairman to the modification to allow members to get books out when the main library was closed. There was no outcry and controversy that a few books had been added to the Poker/Puzzle/Games room.
By the way, the Poker/Puzzle/Games room was previously open to all members at all times for poker, puzzles and games. Now it will be closed unless it is for 2 hours on one day per week!
Who is behind this vengeful, hateful nastiness? This action is clearly punitive for unknown reasons but possibly aimed at the Volunteer as retaliation for wanting to build a new home in S-bag. It is clearly contrary to our Covenants, which provide for use of the common areas by all members.
Members who paid for this half-million dollar mishap of a building that you can't hear yourself think in now have NO rooms open--The "CHUG" room houses Kay c N's equipment and is locked. The Library is open one day a week for 2 hours and is locked. Now the Poker/Puzzle/Game Room--previously open all the time--is now open only 2 hours weekly when the Library is open.
There is NO REASON given by MANBOD--it is simply an Annexation to the Library.
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Apr 8, 2014 13:40:51 GMT -5
Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Apr 8, 2014 13:40:51 GMT -5
Perhaps this mishap of a building s/b called the "MANBOD" Building; they're the ones controlling and sanctioning it's usage by the very people--us residents who funded it--and to the tune of half a million?!? I never heard what the total amount spent on it was; damn, that's a shitload of money!
On another note, if the library is only open two hours a week, which two are they? (I never knew what they were/are.)
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Apr 8, 2014 14:07:07 GMT -5
Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Apr 8, 2014 14:07:07 GMT -5
The ONLY way to make money is to spend money. Saving, rehabbing, restoring, repairing--these activities do not generate money because very little money is spent. It is much easier to throw useable materials into a heap and leave it sitting on the property somewhere for months until someone complains. Then, after everything is gone--people wonder "What happened to it?" By then, it is given away, rusted or otherwise unuseable. So you end up having to spend money for a brand new whatchamacallit! And get to make money!
It's sad when this place runs like that, I think, in most cases, it just shows their lazy, I-don't-give-a-crap attitudes--oh and a big pile of resident's money to always have available to waste. Back in the day, when I used to do commercial building construction on our family property, we saved things, rehabbed them and re-used them, we had to, out of necessity to save money, mainly, but time as well. That doesn't happen (often enough) in this day and age of the "throw-away" society. Things are cheap, break, fall apart and easily replaced, yes, and people make money when they spend ours, but all I'm trying to say is that with a little bit of care and attention to detail, and using the resident's resources--our fees--wisely--I am quite sure some costs can be cut down or out entirely. I see a lot of waste going on in here and there are better ways to use some of these resources. I really believe the manager needs to go away and get a job at a day care center or somewhere where she can boss around some true infants--(because us residents are NOT infants.) Then we need to hire, instead, some type of resort consultant or a few different types of consultants that could help us better take care of needs of this community and do so without hate, nastiness, vindictiveness, and wasting a shitload of money in the process.
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Apr 8, 2014 14:33:06 GMT -5
Post by Admin on Apr 8, 2014 14:33:06 GMT -5
The last estimate was over $460K and all the bills were not in--for instance, the necessary lighting in the parking lot for the safety of owners and guests was 'held captive' to passage of the budget.
With the continuing fixes of past mistakes on the structure, waste and invisible expenses, I believe this $460K Known amount could easily reach a half million.
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Apr 9, 2014 8:32:13 GMT -5
I doubt a letter to the board would get any answers on why they all of a sudden decided to interfere when they previously told the community they have no control over clubs' activities/schedules/etc. They'd probably defer to the mange, who would then give some stupid bullshit excuse(s) as to why she took away resident's rights to a popular common property area--our library. She might try to come up with some things that sound like fact when in all reality, anything she tries to convey as fact is resistant to normal interpretation.
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Apr 9, 2014 11:05:32 GMT -5
Post by BagLady on Apr 9, 2014 11:05:32 GMT -5
There are certain personality types in our society that think and behave differently from most "normal" folks. I am not a psychiatrist and cannot make a diagnosis and call names. One of the H allmark identifiers of such personality types is LYING:
Excerpt from an authoritative book on the subject:
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Apr 9, 2014 11:22:35 GMT -5
Post by Pokemon XD on Apr 9, 2014 11:22:35 GMT -5
Where's Dbag and his poker cronies going to go for their weekly poker game now?
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Apr 9, 2014 12:29:19 GMT -5
Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Apr 9, 2014 12:29:19 GMT -5
This dbag is on the board, and you know they do what they want, when they want, and to whomever they want; he's probably got a key on his key ring to the new annex anyhow, what do you expect to happen--that dbag is going to follow the rules everyone else has to?--NOT!
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Apr 9, 2014 13:17:40 GMT -5
Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Apr 9, 2014 13:17:40 GMT -5
There are certain personality types in our society that think and behave differently from most "normal" folks. I am not a psychiatrist and cannot make a diagnosis and call names. One of the H allmark identifiers of such personality types is LYING: Excerpt from an authoritative book on the subject:
This book must be what manbod uses as a SOP manual.
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Apr 11, 2014 14:49:29 GMT -5
Post by BagLady on Apr 11, 2014 14:49:29 GMT -5
Here we go again with the ITMAIL! In the letter, IT is chastising one of the helpers at the Annex Puzzle/Game room Mange has decided to re-designate as a "New" and unauthorized Club thus requiring special Executive permission to put a few shelves on top of those already installed. (For explanation, see previous post on LYING). JA was advised to REFRAIN from this activity in the future, citing Regulation 5-10 Use of Common Areas. She also renamed the Room to " E"--maybe that stands for Empty or Exclude or Expel or Evict or Exile or Eject... IT--lissen up. There IS NO REGULATION 5. It was omitted from the last set of Rules amended and recorded on 4/11/08. Along with Regulation 2. Along with the 1st three rules of Regulation 6. It was a screw up which was discovered 6 years later by the Rulebook Committee. These were not recorded in the Official Public Record and do not exist except in your imagination and current fabrication of the Redbook. Say...a lot of rules and MANBOD-initiated alterations to rules seem to find their way into the Redbook that were never adopted by due process hmmmmm? The deal is "not documented, not done". Go get an informed opinion (or you can just wait for someone to cH allenge one of these rules in Sm all Claims Court.) So, kiss off. Here is IT using SLohA property and resources to promulgate rules which do not exist and continuing her mission of self-proclamation "Drama/Control Queen" and alienating every single thinking person in the park, one by one. Attachment Deleted Attachment DeletedIt was probably the woman who took a picture with her cell phone that went running to IT about the defacement of Room "E". An IT sycophant.
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Apr 11, 2014 17:43:55 GMT -5
Post by Dick Tracy on Apr 11, 2014 17:43:55 GMT -5
The "Good News": The Annex Restrooms are still "Open For Business".....
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Apr 12, 2014 14:16:40 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2014 14:16:40 GMT -5
The "Good News": The Annex Restrooms are still "Open For Business".....
ha, there's good news and then there's bad news: the good news is that the rest rooms are open, but the bad news is they took out all the toilet paper
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Apr 14, 2014 5:14:41 GMT -5
Post by Admin on Apr 14, 2014 5:14:41 GMT -5
So let's see if I got this right. Members of SLohA spent over $460,000+ dollars on a building where the only things open are:
1- a large echo chamber space where normal conversation will trigger a migraine in 5 minutes, 2- a room for the exclusive use of D-bag and his cronies for gambling and 3- a path to the restrooms which are not stocked with toilet paper.
Or said another way, all that money was spent on on a place for gambling, a room to house K C N's business equipment which is poaching on common property and for "bring your own TP" emergency tinkling.
And add all the money wasted on trying to address a leak problem which was first "fixed" by T ck r, whose repairs preceded the sudden development of mold. Add that labor repair cost--the mold remediation, new windows, doors, roofing materials, labor--all money down the drain. Condemnation and removal of the building from the property and an interim rental for over a year--add that to the $460,000.
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