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Post by Admin on May 2, 2014 18:05:31 GMT -5
This Notice of Bid will appear in The Ledger May 1-7, 2014. It is a required public notice to solicit bids on installing and servicing all individual sites and common properties in a "large Lake Wales resort" for HIGH SPEED INTERNET, TELEPHONE AND TV SERVICE". It is unknown what the purpose of this solicitation is at this time. However, the contact phone numbers for interested parties to reply are 1) Ta nee sha Sch ro dr's cell phone at Stmb Ixx Inc and 2) the S-bag Administration Office.
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Post by Wondering Wanda on May 3, 2014 6:30:53 GMT -5
Some things are wrong with this notice:
There has been no conversation with the SLohA owners about this! Post-season meetings and monthly workshops have been shut down. Apparently, business is being conducted illegally behind closed doors--doors closed and locked from view of owners.
There is no phone number to reply to K C N--only SLohA Admin and Stmbug Ixx Inc (pretty much the same thing). Is MANBOD "shielding" K C N from future allegations of violations?
What is MANBOD's interest in theoretically competing with K C N by inviting outside providers to bid on the right to service owners? Why are owners paying for this action which obviously involves legal consultation, administrative expenses and newspaper advertising costs?
Does K C N even know? Approve? Is K C N looking for a buyer behind MANBOD's skirts?
Is K C N "testing the market" to support a claim in the case of future litigation? (This bid is coming days before the pre-suit mediation scheduled for May 5th.)
Are MANBOD acting as agents for K C N? How could access for "installation and servicing" be awarded to anyone on property not owned by any of these entities?
Why are the property owners in SLR not being told about this back door deal? (Duh--because it's a backdoor deal!)
Something smells bad.
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Post by BagLady on May 3, 2014 12:20:39 GMT -5
Here is a suggestion that has been made by more than one reader: that this notice is somehow laying some groundwork for a "next step" in shoving mandatory service down the throats of Saddlebaggers and capturing subscriptions through a contract paid for by assessments. The MANBOD wants the cover of FS720.309 and this has already been discussed elsewhere on the forum as unconstitutional (per attorney opinion). This "faux bidding maneuver" might be a way of sidestepping the competitive bidding requirements of FS720.3055:
The entirety of FS720.3055 is posted on the forum elsewhere.
That makes some sense in light of past statements made by Kay c on CHUG and elsewhere. Whatever you might think of K C, its owner does do its homework and knows where to look to build a case. I would never underestimate K C's capacity to find loopholes to further its goals. But, why are SLohA Board directors spending Owner money on K C's case by involving SLohA lawyers and Management Company?
In any case, being curious I looked up the current legislature arising from the Telecommunications Act of 1996 to see what new mission or goals, if any, had changed recently. It appears that the Feds have ordered more research and reports and have continued (and expanded) programs and are continuing to fund deployment of telecommunications services into underserved rural areas. However, the overall goal of this support appears to be to enhance economic opportunity and job creation. Seems that getting a Grnt in Lake Wales would be a stretch; while underserved, does not seem to fall into the productive target areas ie education, agriculture and medicine.
Notwithstanding that a possible intent might be to develop groundwork to support a Grnt or loan by demonstrating "underservice", it does not explain the close involvement of the Management company and Association as the recipients of inquiries for bidders. This raises even more questions about the involvement of others in the affairs of K C N.
It also would seem to be a hopeless activity to advertise for competitive bidders to come to hook up S-bag in light of recent history. What service provider in their right corporate mind would want to trespass in a deed-restricted community to set up service to hostile owners, one of whom is getting ready to S u e the directors of the Association for permitting an unlawful breach of Covenant for permitting the current one to trespass?
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Post by justme on May 3, 2014 16:44:07 GMT -5
Sooner or later a voluntary assoc will be set up in this community as folks realize their covenants are expired and the crap being secretly forced on us will enable this new assoc to grow and override the system that is now in place.
Board members arnt listening management does as it wants K C N will force this upon us,tho voted down
recall the board at 50 %.......maybe join S T lawsuit and withdraw from the assoc......Maybe
What ever the case. something has to change in here
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Post by Admin on May 4, 2014 9:26:30 GMT -5
This is an excerpt from the meeting audio spoken by then-BOD President KL at the Feb 2014 meeting discussing the internet on the ballot:
It is my opinion that this is stated intention is now coming to fruition and they are really soliciting bids (which of course, they will not get). The MANBOD fully intends to shove this down every owner's throat in SLR and put it into next year's budget without benefit of voting or opinion. They would not risk a third vote defeat. They TOLD us they were going to do it--and I think that , Kay c and BOD have every intention of implementing this over the summer while most owners are off the property and there are no meetings.
And speaking of meetings...we may have gotten to the point where the few meetings that are held (but not published on the Official Website) are but a necessary corporate ritual and are not intended to accomplish either the spirit or the letter of the law. If I am correct in my opinion about shoving the internet fee burden on the owners (and it will likely be "bundled" in the budget so it is not "in your face"), then I think it is consistent and logical to think that owners have been completely dismissed from the process of governance in SLR and this group will carry on as they please until they are sued.
Oh..and the audio recording is on file with 2 owners if anyone would like to review it. For FREE. That was Feb 4, 2014. Or, you could make a records request and send it certified mail, then be scheduled for a viewing of the videorecording at the office.
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on May 4, 2014 10:44:25 GMT -5
I AGREE! That's what it will come down to--and the sooner the better!
Ever since this management company has been in here, they have: caused lawsuits that were lost that we residents had to pay for; they've turned resident against resident; they've created more dissention in here, over-spent our reserves--wasted our money by artificially running up operating costs--all totally unnecessary.
All this while our BOD's sit idly by and keep extending their contract with huge increases. This begs the question: What is it that these BOD's are getting from all of this? It has got to be something.
This mgmt. co. has decided to run and ruin resident's lives instead of doing the job they were hired to do: manage the day to day operations of this community.
Since they have failed miserably just as our BOD's have done, they all need to GO!
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on May 5, 2014 9:36:04 GMT -5
This is all part of the management company's plan to turn this retirement community into something it does NOT want to be.
Those on fixed incomes are going to be forced out of their homes because of this bulk services contract being shoved down owner's throats.
Just think about the fact that we had a $100/year decrease for two years--which was done to curry favor with residents. But wait, the BOD's said our budget requires that $100 per year per owner back, or else we would get hit with a special assessment.
So, now we are paying $500/qtr., but when they force their bulk services contract upon all owners in here, our quarterly fee could very well be in the range of around $700 or MORE!
I cannot emphasize enough as to why that can NOT happen, since at that point they will have begun to systematically weed out all lower income residents.
Some will not have a place to live any longer, and it will occur because of the greed of the owner of this internet business and the management company.
This will be a profitable thing for the internet owner and the management co., but many residents will suffer and they will not care who or how many they force out of their homes and foreclose on,.
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on May 5, 2014 20:58:03 GMT -5
I smell a shit-storm brewing,(with regard to this surreptitious, possible, impending bulk services contract) and I'm NOT talking about the 15 trips that the Brookers PooP Wagon made between April 30th and May 1, 2014 after it rained a bunch.
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Post by Honest Abe on Jun 4, 2014 10:58:55 GMT -5
This Notice of Bid will appear in The Ledger May 1-7, 2014. It is a required public notice to solicit bids on installing and servicing all individual sites and common properties in a "large Lake Wales resort" for HIGH SPEED INTERNET, TELEPHONE AND TV SERVICE". It is unknown what the purpose of this solicitation is at this time. However, the contact phone numbers for interested parties to reply are 1) Ta nee sha Sch ro dr's cell phone at Stmb Ixx Inc and 2) the S-bag Administration Office. Have we been told the status of this Ad for bulk services from the BOD yet? Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 20:44:34 GMT -5
This Notice of Bid will appear in The Ledger May 1-7, 2014. It is a required public notice to solicit bids on installing and servicing all individual sites and common properties in a "large Lake Wales resort" for HIGH SPEED INTERNET, TELEPHONE AND TV SERVICE". It is unknown what the purpose of this solicitation is at this time. However, the contact phone numbers for interested parties to reply are 1) Ta nee sha Sch ro dr's cell phone at Stmb Ixx Inc and 2) the S-bag Administration Office.
Someone needs to tell our prez. that there's nothing "old" about this ad; it was placed in a local paper just over a month ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 20:46:05 GMT -5
This Notice of Bid will appear in The Ledger May 1-7, 2014. It is a required public notice to solicit bids on installing and servicing all individual sites and common properties in a "large Lake Wales resort" for HIGH SPEED INTERNET, TELEPHONE AND TV SERVICE". It is unknown what the purpose of this solicitation is at this time. However, the contact phone numbers for interested parties to reply are 1) Ta nee sha Sch ro dr's cell phone at Stmb Ixx Inc and 2) the S-bag Administration Office. Have we been told the status of this Ad for bulk services from the BOD yet?
The board isn't going to say squat; it's secrecy as usual...
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Post by Dick Tracy on Jun 5, 2014 0:03:24 GMT -5
If SLR BODs tries a work around through the back door, for mandated Resort Wide Internet Service, when 50 plus% of the residents do not care to have the service. A lot of crap would hit the fan. I would hope that is not their game plan. But they do need to make some major decisions about Internet Service.
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