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Post by Im Trying on May 7, 2014 23:58:00 GMT -5
I was looking at some Old BOD Post and notice this statement below. What Happen?
Board_Report Date: 01/13/2012
PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION MANAGEMENT
I. Management Company is employed by S-bag Lake Owners Association (SLohA).
II. Management Company renders service and performs duties in accordance with all SLohA Covenants, By-Laws, Rules & Regulations and….in strict compliance with the laws of the State of Florida. All such services are
UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF SLohA.
III. Management Company performs a variety of duties including management of daily operations for S-bag Lake Resort (SLR) and bookkeeping services.
A. Management Company is on-site 40 hours per week.
B. Management Company “manages" all SLohA employees - NOT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS (BOD). This includes a variety of Human Resource Functions:
1. Management Company accurately maintains all employee benefit records and submits to applicable agencies as required.
2. Management Company provides an annual update of all employee job descriptions as required.
3. Management Company meets annually with all employees to plan performance/evaluate & set goals.
4. Management Company provides annual written performance evaluations for all SLohA employees.
5. Management Company will report, discuss and resolve
any employee problems to the President of the BOD.
C. Management Company collects quarterly assessments and all other monies due from members of the Association. This activity takes place per BOD's authorization. Any decision to pursue legal activities pursuant to collection of said funds is only done at the direction of the BOD -- per SOP. All funds collected are deposited in bank accounts in the name of SLohA as directed by the BOD.
D. Management Company uses a system of accrual accounting as required by Florida statutes for all financial reports of SLohA. These reports are, but not limited to:
1. Balance Statement
2. Income and Expense Statement (includes actual to budget comparison)
3. Delinquent Owners Report
4. Cash Disbursement Report
5. Owner Activity Report
6. Bank Reconciliations
7. General Ledger (if requested)
The monthly closeout is performed by a licensed external accounting firm separate from Stmbug Ixx and our auditor. The fees for this service are paid for by Stmbug Ixx.
E. At the request of the BOD, the Management Company provides necessary documentation to the BOD for review and preparation of the SLohA annual budget.
F. Management Company provides periodic Reserve Fund analysis.
G. Management Company maintains an up to date owner roster.
H. Management Company ensures that State and local permits and contracts are current.
Contact Information:
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Post by slanty on Sept 18, 2014 18:40:54 GMT -5
I was looking at some Old BOD Post and notice this statement below. What Happen?
Board_Report Date: 01/13/2012
PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION MANAGEMENT
I. Management Company is employed by S-bag Lake Owners Association (SLohA).
II. Management Company renders service and performs duties in accordance with all SLohA Covenants, By-Laws, Rules & Regulations and….in strict compliance with the laws of the State of Florida. All such services are
UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF SLohA.
III. Management Company performs a variety of duties including management of daily operations for S-bag Lake Resort (SLR) and bookkeeping services.
A. Management Company is on-site 40 hours per week.
B. Management Company “manages" all SLohA employees - NOT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS (BOD). This includes a variety of Human Resource Functions:
1. Management Company accurately maintains all employee benefit records and submits to applicable agencies as required.
2. Management Company provides an annual update of all employee job descriptions as required.
3. Management Company meets annually with all employees to plan performance/evaluate & set goals.
4. Management Company provides annual written performance evaluations for all SLohA employees.
5. Management Company will report, discuss and resolve
any employee problems to the President of the BOD.
C. Management Company collects quarterly assessments and all other monies due from members of the Association. This activity takes place per BOD's authorization. Any decision to pursue legal activities pursuant to collection of said funds is only done at the direction of the BOD -- per SOP. All funds collected are deposited in bank accounts in the name of SLohA as directed by the BOD.
D. Management Company uses a system of accrual accounting as required by Florida statutes for all financial reports of SLohA. These reports are, but not limited to:
1. Balance Statement
2. Income and Expense Statement (includes actual to budget comparison)
3. Delinquent Owners Report
4. Cash Disbursement Report
5. Owner Activity Report
6. Bank Reconciliations
7. General Ledger (if requested)
The monthly closeout is performed by a licensed external accounting firm separate from Stmbg Ixx and our auditor. The fees for this service are paid for by Stmbg Ixx.
E. At the request of the BOD, the Management Company provides necessary documentation to the BOD for review and preparation of the SLohA annual budget.
F. Management Company provides periodic Reserve Fund analysis.
G. Management Company maintains an up to date owner roster.
H. Management Company ensures that State and local permits and contracts are current.
Contact Information:
PLEASE READ "C" CAREFULLY. ONE OF THE MOST BELOVED AND LOVED PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR ALL TO S-bag JUST RECEIVED A CERTIFIED LETTER STATUS THAT THERE IS A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY FOR FAILURE TO PAY THE JULY QUARTERLY. NOW IF I WERE TO TELL YOU WHO THIS PERSON IS YOU WOULD PROBABLY RESPOND: "OH, IT MUST HAVE BEEN AN OVERSIGHT", AND NOT A DEADBEAT TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH SOMETHING. TO ADD INJURY TO INSULT, THIS PERSON IS BEING CHARGED $12.00 FOR THE $6.00 COST OF THE CERTIFIED LETTER. Saddlebaggers wake up. Take back what once was the nicest and friendliest community in Florida. |
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Sept 18, 2014 19:07:52 GMT -5
The office manager had a stack of over 12 registered letters for delinquent fees on her desk a few days ago.
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Post by slanty on Sept 18, 2014 19:28:07 GMT -5
8DDown with the BOARD. We must stop the mutilation on S-bag.
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Post by Im Trying on Sept 19, 2014 0:18:12 GMT -5
More billable hours for Management Co. Attorneys, which the Fl. norm for Attorney Fees, is a 10% to 20% discount back to the management co. of the HOA. That is The Game, commonly played in FL. Condos & HOA Management Companies. Do we come under that kind of players?
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2014 12:12:55 GMT -5
From the Management/SLohA contract:
Twelve certified letters for past due assessments? Unheard of in SLohA history! S-bag has never had a problem collecting assessments with only occasional nopays who almost always end up paying! There have only been 3 foreclosures since 2010--none of which were authorized by the governing documents.
I would be curious to know what the SOP says; I understand that the SOP's are kept in the office and always available for inspection. Maybe someone would stop up there and ask for a copy of it?
S-bag has not filed ANY lien for non-payment since July 2014 for a very aged account. Prior to that, three previous liens were filed in 2012 and all were satisfied. There is fourth extremely delinquent account where there has been NO activity reflected in the public records since 2008; at which time almost $3500 was owed to SLohA. (This was the one on 1 Grayhackle where the owner was in prison and then sold the lot while in prison, by this time, the tab must exceed $16,000 in assessments alone.) Where is the collection activity on THAT account? Is THAT account being handled per SOP?
Is there consistency in the collection efforts? Or is there selective enforcement to punish and intimidate a few owners who may be only slightly overdue but have a consistent history of payment? IS Management Company following SLohA SOP or are they doing their own thing and feeding the attorneys more fees? What happened to picking up the telephone and calling these folks? Maybe that is not in the SOP...
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Post by pestcontrol on Sept 20, 2014 14:17:54 GMT -5
From the Management/SLohA contract: Twelve certified letters for past due assessments? Unheard of in SLohA history! S-bag has never had a problem collecting assessments with only occasional nopays who almost always end up paying! There have only been 3 foreclosures since 2010--none of which were authorized by the governing documents. I would be curious to know what the SOP says; I understand that the SOP's are kept in the office and always available for inspection. Maybe someone would stop up there and ask for a copy of it? S-bag has not filed ANY lien for non-payment since July 2014 for a very aged account. Prior to that, three previous liens were filed in 2012 and all were satisfied. There is fourth extremely delinquent account where there has been NO activity reflected in the public records since 2008; at which time almost $3500 was owed to SLohA. (This was the one on 1 Grayhackle where the owner was in prison and then sold the lot while in prison, by this time, the tab must exceed $16,000 in assessments alone.) Where is the collection activity on THAT account? Is THAT account being handled per SOP? Is there consistency in the collection efforts? Or is there selective enforcement to punish and intimidate a few owners who may be only slightly overdue but have a consistent history of payment? IS Management Company following SLohA SOP or are they doing their own thing and feeding the attorneys more fees? What happened to picking up the telephone and calling these folks? Maybe that is not in the SOP... THIS IS THE "NEW" ENFORCEMENT POLICE OF THE SLohA BOARD. FIRST, THE BOOKKEEPER SENDS OUT THE NASTY NOTICE THAT SAYS A LIEN ON YOUR PROPERTY IS BEING MADE AND IT MAY TAKE 25 YEARS FOR IT TO BE REMOVED. THEN YOU CALL HER AND HER OBNOXIOUS ATTITUDE MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE A DEADBEAT. IF LIKE ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS PAID THE ASSESSMENT ON 2 PROPERTIES FOR 6 MONTH BE CAREFULLY THE RECEIPTS FROM THE OFFICE WERE NOT ENOUGH. THE OWNER AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE HAD TO PRODUCE COPIES OF THE CHECKS THAT NOTED EACH PROPERTY SEPARATELY. NOW GO TO THE NEXT EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE VERY MOST LOVING, GIVING PEOPLE IN ALL OF S-bag OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS. THIS HOUSE HOLD GET THE THREAT LETTER WITH THE SIMPLE THREAT LIEN/25 YRS. TO REMOVE. ALL BECAUSE THE DAUGHTER OVERLOOKED THE PAYMENT. LOVE THE NEW "WE HAVE ALL SADDLEBAGGERS" ATTITUDE THE BOARD AND MANAGEMENT IS PUT ING ON US. |
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2014 15:19:09 GMT -5
You have GOT to be kidding! It threatens the owner that it will take 25 years to remove a lien! Someone is really misinformed and out of control! It takes one piece of paper filled out by the lienholder and a recording fee of $10 to get a lien removed---IF one is even filed in the first place. It is called a Satisfaction of Lien. When the lien is paid, the lienholder must record the Satisfaction within a certain time period--and that is not 25 years (I think it is 30 days after written demand to release the lien)!
Liens are not filed until a due process of notice has been certified. That usually takes at least 90 days after the initial notice. The intervals should be specified in the SOP. It certainly does not look like the BOD-authorized SOP is being followed by Stmbg Ixx Inc.
This falsely-represented and crude collection process is an undeserved slap in the face to owners by this Management company and BOD should be ashamed of itself for passively underwriting this activity.
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Post by Im Trying on Sept 20, 2014 23:54:41 GMT -5
I encourage residents to participate at BOD Meetings. During the Open Microphone, speak your peace, with boldness. Ask direct questions, about issues in SLohA. More Residents must get involved, if we want a positive change in SLohA.
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Sept 21, 2014 15:01:31 GMT -5
I encourage residents to participate at BOD Meetings. During the Open Microphone, speak your peace, with boldness. Ask direct questions, about issues in SLohA. More Residents must get involved, if we want a positive change in SLohA.
MANBOD has made the statement that residents should read CHUG, and the S-bag Express Newsletter and/or come to the meetings or the office to ask questions if you have any. Unfortunately, if you ask a pointed question to any of the board members and they don't want to answer it, they just remain mute. If you press them about it, they may say they don't have any info available to answer that question at the moment, but will get it for you later--it's just that later never arrives; they just forget about what they've been asked to find out, and hope that you don't come knocking on their door, or ask them about it next time you may see them. That's pretty much how they handle resident's questions.
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Post by BagLady on Sept 21, 2014 17:09:01 GMT -5
From my experience in two years of workshops and meetings and one year of transcribing audio recordings, I would comment that your characterization of BOD's handling of owner questions is certainly accurate insofar as the "deer-struck-dumb-in-the-headlights" reaction to questions but, at the same time, overly generous.
Recent behavior suggests that this Board is timid, fearful and uninformed about SLohA matters and will routinely solicit legal opinions in the future to respond to questions. They will then have the Management Company send a certified letter with a invoice for legal services to the owner asking the question and ignore the legal advice.
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