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Post by BagLady on Jun 20, 2014 10:32:58 GMT -5
Here is a quick comment blogged by an architect who is a professional advisor to several ARC (Architectural Review Committees) in Florida:
Importantly, the authority to establish such a Committee is typically present in the original founding document--the Declaration of Covenants. This does not exist in SLohA's 1970's Covenants (nor in the 1986 or 1989 "amendments")--perhaps because the Covenants relate to RV's--not homes. There is no ARC in S-bag--only minor dicktators who intimidate owners and pass judgements they know little about or approve projects selectively depending on who is asking.
There is no due process available to owners in S-bag which provides for consistent, knowledgeable and fair architectural review.
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Post by BagLady on Jun 20, 2014 11:03:37 GMT -5
Here is a Florida attorney's opinion:
Note that before any lawsuits get underway for architectural (or any) non-emergency disputes, the Board--or the homeowner--must first go to pre-suit mediation. Cost of that begins around $1000 if represented by an attorney. So far, Tg and Ath have fulfilled this Florida mediation requirement. Tg followed up in March 2014 by filing a lawsuit. Ath has not yet filed a lawsuit. No one else has received a notice to attend mediation--only Intimidation Letters.
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Post by observer on Jun 20, 2014 15:58:20 GMT -5
The bod has chosen to use our money to S u e the ladies at 66 Silversides. I do not want them to waste our money that way or for the carport. What is wrong with you men and Alc; it is prima facia that 1. the manbod has "selectively" enforced the mis-represented covenents, 2. Has allowed another illegitimate doublewide in the park with C. Jenson's on the horizon. They are not being sued. There is a preponderence of evidence on the ladies behave. The manbod is wasting up to $20,000. just to begin suit in legal fees and, ultimately has an irrelevant suit and will be adding lawyers fees on behalf of the ladies. Way to go, manbod, how fiscally irresponsible can you be?
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Post by Justme on Jun 20, 2014 19:52:42 GMT -5
I noticed at the meeting that the association paid for the managers lawyers. How can that be as she does not work for SLR, but for the management company. If the manager operates outside her jurisdiction ,how can we become accountable for her costs By trying to stop people or contractors entering our community is illegal,why should we pay for her mistakes? ?
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Post by Justme on Jun 20, 2014 19:57:26 GMT -5
Heres a juicy rumor floating around
Word has it ,that the manager has two sugar daddies in here.I know one of them
Becareful guys,She will bleed you dry
Ask her exhusbands...rumored at four
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Post by justme on Jun 20, 2014 20:08:47 GMT -5
Bobby Lockran on tom Par sons is coming down in mid July to enter into mediation on his carport.His lawyer will be with him.
The manager will have to have good reason to bring this action after passing it and being built
Don't worry folks,just another two lawsuits on the way.
Good money to be made here for this management company getting their share of the legal fees
One would think this board would catch a clue after all of this
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Post by Justme on Jun 20, 2014 20:18:09 GMT -5
That Voluntary association is getting closer Vass
Its only a matter of time as more folk realize,Its time to throw out this management company and change board members
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Post by BagLady on May 1, 2016 7:52:02 GMT -5
Most readers know that it is impossible for me not to comment on continued idiocy by this MANBOD. Sigh....the stupidity never ends. Once again--a reminder to everyone about a fact of S-bag life. THERE IS NO ARCHITECTURAL AUTHORITY IN THE COVENANTS-- EVER --and THERE WILL BE NO ARCHITECTURAL AUTHORITY IF/WHEN THE COVENANTS ARE REVITALIZED! The current Architectural Committee is a board-approved "social committee" and has no authority except ADVISEMENT. It can be helpful to owners who want to make changes or bring in new homes. Its input is simply a helpful (maybe) suggestion. What the Board is doing when it demands something is asserting an authority that it does not have over the property rights of others--it is FRAUD. The Board's authority is over common property ONLY. The board has no authority over private property architectural modifications. Only Polk County does. PLEASE MANBOD-give it a rest! From an attorney blog: Chap is going to find a complaint on his CAM license-as is Toneesha- because they are both violating a Florida Homeowner statute knowingly and willingly and preying on a population that is vulnerable. (Chap already has a Polk County Sheriff Case Complaint for trespass and theft of property that can be added to the complaint). Complaint on a CAM license is a relatively new statute that is protective of homeowners who are intimidated and bullied by Management. It is not difficult to file a complaint and the Complaint Form is located on this forum for downloading. The Board Directors, on the other hand, are not licensed and do not jeopardize their ability to earn a living through licensure. However, they can be individually and collectively sued by any homeowner for fraudulently representing authority they do not have and causing expense and hardship to the property owner. They have already lost architectural cases before 66SS. (Yes, the board of the 80's sued and lost 4 architectural cases. (The documents and discussion is posted elsewhere on this forum.) MANBOD should remember that homeowners have immediate access to a willing, knowledgable and affordable attorney through SNAP.MANBOD= Slow learners
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Post by Admin on May 2, 2016 21:21:37 GMT -5
pestcontrol posted: Chap chose to soothe Rooffled feathers in his KK Manager's report this morning. He has been cutting down trees with a vengance since he replaced the last sociopathic manager with his 5-day old CAM license and started leaning the ropes, while at the same time, making bad decisions. He 'splained that the trees had to come down and he wasn't the only one who said so--and he AGONIZED about this decision! Well that may or may not be true. (Who paid to have the trees cut down and removed? Is the internet signal improved?) This was a site concern and only the owner and the contractor should have been involved. Chap is gonna cost SLohA a boatload of money one of these days. Apart from arbitrary treatment and elitist favoritism by MANBOD, neither the board nor Chap has the authority to "make a variance". Finally, even the board itself admitted that in 2014. Why: a variance is a deviance from an architectural/construction rule or preferred standard. And there are no architectural/construction standards. Why: it is unnecessary since there is no architectural authority delegated by Covenant to any board or committee. Why: because S-bag was developed as a campground and permanent structures were specifically not permitted. D-Bag has no authority to Grnt anyone any permission for anything! Saddlebaggers have a regrettable history of being too timid and scared to hiccup in pubic without permission. But, at least back then there were rules were in effect. Now, there are NO RULES and this group persists in abusing owners and feeding the lawyers with dollars paid by the the abused for the pursuit of persecution in the name of *TinKirbell Rules and Group Paranoia. As far back as 1980, the Bag was embroiled in an ugly collective paranoia about owners running amok unless they were suppressed into submission by bullies making mo' rules. Several lawsuits against owners were launched over clotheslines, sloped roofs over trailers and screened-in porches. SLohA lost nearly all of these disputes and flushed thousands of owner assessment dollars down the toilet. Did it learn anything from that? Perhaps this madness will correct itself naturally over time as demographics change and the fear of rampant clothesline anarchy recedes. Here is the September 1980 Ledger article referred to: sadruleseldgerarticle.docx (478.64 KB) Attachment DeletedS-bag in Turmoil over RulesIt is interesting to also note that the Board was forcing material alterations of common property and corresponding assessment charges--without the consent of Owners--even back in 1980. Just like they are doing now with stab's internet towers:
Quote: "Last year they assessed residents $107 each for a new clubhouse. He said directors decided to build a clubhouse without taking a vote...although they did conduct an opinion poll..." Back then, these people were using the same social punitive smear tactics as today: Quote from Clothesline Criminal: "People that used to be my friends don't even talk to me anymore" she said. "They say I'm a troublemaker".*TinKirbell Rules is an example of the psychological concept of TinKirbell Effect i.e. "Sometimes what we think determines what we see." It comes from the Disney classic where the audience is told to clap for a dying TinKirbell and she miraculously comes to life. It is wishful thinking that gets in the way of reality and smart decision-making as policy makers who believe something to be true (like the presence of weapons of mass destruction) start acting like they have evidence to prove it true (e.g. D-Bag and his doctored up 1986 Amendment). Closely associated with faith-based decision-making and "in your dreams" thinking. A TinKirbell Defense was actually used by an HOA's lawyers in a recent Orlando case. After the laughter receded, the HOA lost and was $175K poorer...
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Post by saddlebagger viewer on May 3, 2016 20:58:20 GMT -5
Pack mentality and mob mentality are inseparable. Both "kill" their prey and "eat" them. The cruelty dished out to others has become a pathetic joke here at S-bag, aka Paradise. Slogans won't heal S-bag; only direct action to abolish neighbor controlling neighbor will. We are all older folks getting older every day. We need to return to a simple principle Jesus gave us: Love thy neighbor as thy self".
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Post by Admin on May 4, 2016 7:40:13 GMT -5
n S-bag viewer posted:
To this I will add a passage which I think applies in S-bag:
This exemplifies the mind and soul of the gang in S-bag. They divide the world into US/THEM thereby discounting the theological commandment. Those "Others" to not meet their definition of a real neighbor--just as lawyers micromanage words to suit their interpretation of the law! This rationale absolves them of responsibility for dismissing the LoveWords of the scriptures.
The rest is easy: don your Sunday costume (or your "I heart SLR" gator tee shirt), put some coins in the collection plate and sleep well.
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