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Post by courious on Dec 16, 2014 6:56:16 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing the Information with us.. It is appreciated. Since I am in a "Sharing Mood" and it is the time of the season to think it is "Better to Give than Receive" I thought I would share this most excellent news.
Polk County Court of Bartow has accepted my Appeal on the claim and citation issued to me for 3rd dog running at large!
The Hearing Officer Snodgrass has admitted that this is now out of her jurisdiction.
Now comes the Defendant (and with all the statements and reports)
Anyone that wants more details can come to me personally and I will decide if you are in that "need to know" category!
Seek the truth and ye sH all find it
It has been a long and difficult summer for you and multiple other residents here at S-bag Lake Resort, keeping evil at bay. The harassment, intimidation and hate of some towards others is finally being stopped. There will still be those negative, misguided souls out there, but their control has been exposed and now is the time for good folks to step forward. In that new vain of "We will overcome". (MLK) the posse that was organized this summer by The Shadow + 21 is stepping aside. (Not down, but not on advanced patrol.) The beginning of a new era is about to happen. |
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Post by Admin on Dec 16, 2014 9:53:34 GMT -5
Captain JG posted:
Congrats! The tendency for most people would be "pay the fine and fugeddaboudit". Your persistence is awesome in pursuit of a lawful resolution to this matter which was corrupt from the start--beginning with Management Company engineering one more opportunity to harass you into submission.
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Dec 26, 2014 6:45:41 GMT -5
This morning I was stopped by some walkers/bike riders wanting to know WHY Bath House #2 was locked up. I explained that its a MANAGER call for some unknown reason.
The nice visitors were to the point of being upset enough that they might be leaving ASAP because of that alone.
There is a camera on the front doors of BH #2 so I fail to see ANY reason for locking the doors.
This needs to change, we owners pay fees to keep the place open not locked away from intended use for all.
The moral to the story here is that if this continues to happen (locked away amenities) it will count as another strike against not only the manager but the management company as well.
There is already a very long list of items owners are quite upset over with this manager and her actions and those items will be addressed and dealt with in an appropriate manner and a discussion made that will not be favorable for either.
Thank you for reading and supporting the forum for which it stands.
Alaska Jm
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 26, 2014 7:34:56 GMT -5
Bath house #2 is evidently being locked up after midnight sometime, and not unlocked until long after 6 a.m.
This is NOT happening during the week days of Sunday thru Wednesday nites; I was up at this bathhouse just after 5 a.m. on Wednesday, last, and was able to use the facility, so, no, this is being done by the security person working on Thursday, Friday & Saturday GRAVEYARD SHIFT--I do believe we all know by now who that is. (in case you do not know, or may have forgotten, it's Teary Hayvnone.)
Incidentally, these are the ONLY BATHROOMS in SLR that have a camera on them, but still cannot be used by residents and guests between the hours of midnight and after 6:30 a.m. or whenever Mr. Hayvnone wakes up and gets around to unlocking the doors. |
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Post by Admin on Dec 26, 2014 8:07:03 GMT -5
Was at Party last night--many snowbirds and new owners have taken notice of the chaos in every area of the park.
Also had a new potential owner look at my home yesterday and the post-inspection discussion centered around--NOT the house--but the community and problems in the park! Owner MUST disclose material facts to potential buyers for legal and ethical reasons. They also asked about the covenants.
I suspect this ongoing situation with Mamagement Company and its anti-owner agenda will suppresses sales or at least cause people to look harder at the environment in which they are putting their financial faith in.
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Post by Anon. Owner on Dec 26, 2014 8:23:34 GMT -5
There is NO sign that this bathhouse #2 is to be locked during Thursday through Saturday nights, there also was NO announcement by anyone--manager or board member(s) or security that this amenity we all pay for has to be LOCKED AWAY from the very people that pay for it and should have available ANYTIME for them or their guests to use.
Shame on whoever's decision it was to do this, it's not right and is just another slap in the face to owners from those running this resort. |
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Post by Guest question on Dec 26, 2014 9:00:13 GMT -5
There is NO sign that this bathhouse #2 is to be locked during Thursday through Saturday nights, there also was NO announcement by anyone--manager or board member(s) or security that this amenity we all pay for has to be LOCKED AWAY from the very people that pay for it and should have available ANYTIME for them or their guests to use.
Shame on whoever's decision it was to do this, it's not right and is just another slap in the face to owners from those running this resort. So now the staff feels that they need to have control of when people within the community can use the restroom i.e. take showers & shave?
With Holiday guest and most homes having only one bathroom it makes no sense to lock a bathhouse.
I would say that if this is a control issue the ones responsible for the ''lockdown & control" of others should consider removing themselves for the memberships employ and submit a resume to the Florida State Correctional System as a jailer/prison staffer.
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Post by courious on Dec 26, 2014 12:02:50 GMT -5
And did anyone note who was on Security last night?
Yep. M. e. l.'s pet, Mr. T.H. is off his leash and back out into the community for night patrol.
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Expose
Pilgrim
"Always Seek The Truth"
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Post by Expose on Dec 27, 2014 1:16:48 GMT -5
We Need New Faces at the Board Level & A New Style of Management.... This "Crap" is getting old.
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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2014 8:49:56 GMT -5
Anon Environmentalist posted:
Inquiry revealed that the lockdown was a deliberate act and "Security" was ORDERED by Mamager to lockout owners and guests from Bathhouse #2.
It is not about what makes sense or what owners want or need; the unmistakable message here is that Mamager must control this environment--in large and Sm all ways--to demonstrate that owners are helpless to have any say in the property they pay for. This is a psychological training ground for the larger ways that owners will be denied a voice in the future!
This is critical because Covenants/Rules are expired--without the authority of the "restrictions", HOW will her 787 infants be taught the lesson of helplessness and the futility of objecting?
In HER world, the fact of one person who has the audacity and means to remove a soap dispenser from a bathhouse is reason enough to punish ALL the owners for the so-called soap caper. (I say "so-called" because this"theft" might be trumped-up, as has been done on several occasions in the past to cast a shadow on certain owners.) Her justification for the lockdown is to remove the "means" by preventing access--denying owners and their guests much-needed bathroom capacity during the single busiest time of the year when guests are visiting and owners need additional hot water and bathroom capacity.
It is and always will be ALL ABOUT M. e. l..
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Post by Lra on Dec 27, 2014 9:11:34 GMT -5
Anon Environmentalist posted: Inquiry revealed that the lockdown was a deliberate act and "Security" was ORDERED by Mamager to lockout owners and guests from Bathhouse #2. It is not about what makes sense or what owners want or need; the unmistakable message here is that Mamager must control this environment--in large and sm all ways--to demonstrate that owners are helpless to have any say in the property they pay for. This is a psychological training ground for the larger ways that owners will be denied a voice in the future! This is critical because Covenants/Rules are expired--without the authority of the "restrictions", HOW will her 787 infants be taught the lesson of helplessness and the futility of objecting? In HER world, the fact of one person who has the audacity and means to remove a soap dispenser from a bathhouse is reason enough to punish ALL the owners for the so-called soap caper. (I say "so-called" because this"theft" might be trumped-up, as has been done on several occasions in the past to cast a shadow on certain owners.) Her justification for the lockdown is to remove the "means" by preventing access--denying owners and their guests much-needed bathroom capacity during the single busiest time of the year when guests are visiting and owners need additional hot water and bathroom capacity. It is and always will be ALL ABOUT M. e. l.. |
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 27, 2014 9:56:35 GMT -5
At least SOMEONE in here could have said SOMETHING TO OWNERS that these bathrooms would be locked away from their usage in this manner--once again, communications break down, and everyone pays the price.
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Post by groovin on Dec 27, 2014 10:24:16 GMT -5
How can there be a Manager there if there are no Governing Docs? Don't the GDs provide the authorization to enter into contracts?, without which any such contract would be void; no?
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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2014 11:09:17 GMT -5
groovin posted
It's a bit complicated but, to oversimplify, SLohA is now a CORPORATION ONLY and has only Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws as its governing documents. SLohA no longer derives its power and authority from the Covenants and Rules. SLohA is now a corporation only regulated under FS617 as that statute existed when it was incorporated (1972).
The previous authority to retain a Management company was found in the Covenants and Bylaws. The BYlaws are called "BY-" because they amplify, operationalize and run with the restrictions and promises of the Covenants. The Bylaws cannot stand alone in most provisions (only the provisions that overlap with FS617 are still in effect). Most Bylaws require the authority of the Covenants; these authorities describe the manner of execution of the powers of the Covenants. Thus, while the Bylaws do not technically expire (with the Covenants/Rules), they become functionless without their companion set of superior authority--the Covenants.
MANBOD is downplaying the significance of covenant expiration--it is a momentous and perilous event for owners--but there is virtually no information from our leaders. Presumably, they are managing the status quo and hoping that the enormous implications of covenant expiration goes by unnoticed. There will be an Owner-sponsored attorney-presented seminar available for owners for Q & A; the details will be announced later.
MANBOD needs to get on the stick and present this issue to the membership. (An owner asked a question about this point blank to the board at the Dec 17th BOD meeting and D-Bag pointed the owner in the wrong direction--to FS720. FS720 says NOTHING about "what does revitaization mean to the owners?" Why isn't the board telling owners anything about covenant expiration?)
It's a whole new ballgame and I don't know if Management Company can be retained by the BOD under FS617 but I have not yet studied the law. All corporations can enter into contracts and I need to see if FS617 defers to FS720; if so, FS720 no longer is applicable... I am sure Frd can help me to understand this and I will post here when I am more up to speed.
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Post by groovin on Dec 27, 2014 11:34:04 GMT -5
In the mean time, while the lockout is in effect, you can shower at my place anytime, on a Sunday afternoon.
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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2014 16:31:00 GMT -5
Clarification (I said it was a bit complicated)--I had a couple questions from owners. The thinking caps are on!
Even though the covenants are expired and FS720 no longer applies, Florida authorizes homeowners' associations whose covenants have expired to revitalize them under the homeowner statute, FS720.
Here is a lawyer cut 'n paste Q & A on this:
IMO the MANBOD needs to get real and sponsor an owner meeting presentation & Q & A on this topic. The blackout of information from our governing body is negligent and is another example of failure of fiduciary duty.
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Post by groovin on Dec 28, 2014 7:43:09 GMT -5
Understood about Revitalization of Docs that were MRTA'd. Amazing how SLohA attorneys tried to assert that the 1986 amendments replaced the prior, 1972 Declarations for purposes of calculating time per 712. How much did that cost y'all, eh? Anyhow, if authorization to enter into contracts is governed by Chapter 617, then the next question is: what are the terms of the manager's contract with SLohA? It is hard to imagine that management is taking out these spiteful actions without the explicit instructions from the BOD.
"In the first place, God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made [HOA] boards." --Mark Twain
What's scary is that they breed.
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Post by groovin on Dec 29, 2014 20:31:35 GMT -5
Offer came and went. Hot water only lasted so long.
Next Sunday?
w/r to getting Real; Relative to their own reality they have already gotten real.
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Feb 18, 2015 8:06:12 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing the Information with us.. It is appreciated. Here is some more information about the manager . Now she has taken it upon herself with the prodding from Mrl K. to lock out the Elctc outlet on the pole by the paper recycle dumpster.
There was no real reason other than M. e. l.'s nasty vindictive personality to stop me, Jm Grnt, from using the electricity that I help pay for, an amenity that belongs to each and every SLR owner.
Now, when I want to do a little work on my RV I will have to park on the street (no approval from management needed as rules are expired) as allowed by Polk Country Ordinance.
Taking away SLR Owners Amenity's is NOT part of the managers job, every one who is impacted by me and others having to park on the street should look to being rid of this hostile, self centered nasty and vindictive woman who thinks she runs our community, SHE DOESNT.
To make my point I may have to park my RV on the street today, tomorrow and the next day while it could have been out of the way, clear of any obstruction of Fire and Rescue such as Ambulance and PCFD .
Wake up folks, do we really need to have this Management Co. here? they don't do anything right for us, but only get our community involved in frivolous law suits and the only reason for that is to EXECUTE OUR RESERVES while Management gets a portion of the lawyer fees win/lose right or wrong.
We are all wanting change in SLR, I would hope that everyone at least understands we should march for SOLIDARITY OF OUR COMMUNITY and NOT for a majority that ignores other owners, or for special interest groups that don't think but are brainwashed into thinking many of us are destroying the once peaceful setting SLR once had and why many of us fell in love with the place.
Please think folks, if you hear something that doesn't make sense, then ask that it be proven and not just accept the hearsay childish gossip that seems to be running amuck in SLR these days.
Everyone should take a breath and do what is best for the community, don't let the hate groups or anyone put thoughts in your heads without proof of what they are saying. In the last week I have heard that I am leaving SLR in my RV, NOT TRUE! I have also heard that I have sold my RV, NOT TRUE! I have heard that some of us have not been paying our fees for a few years, NOT TRUE!
Here is how it works, if you are listening to someone talk about another S-bagger and they are not standing right there when you hear it.....ITS BULL and you shouldn't buy the gossip let alone spreading what you hear. Childish and foolish behavior like that shows that some have nothing better to do than just run their mouths without any facts...THESE ARE THE TROUBLE MAKERS, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT CAUSE HATE AND NEIGHBOR AGAINST NEIGHBOR FUEDS that destroy long term friendships.
Come on people, when someone starts to gossip you can just change the topic and say "Lets go over to Jm Grants house and then you can say that" or whoever the gossip is about. Watch them change the subject. Call them on their nonsense or just say you don't want to hear it. They will be left with nothing to say because all a person like that knows is how to gossip and spread false information they cant back up with facts.
It will take a lot to fix what's wrong with SLR and not doing your own thinking, allowing the Manager to take away our amenities out of spite and vindictiveness should be corrected by getting rid of this disrespectful sociopath manager and her boss Stmbug Ixx Inc. They have cost us as a community more that you can imagine and they aren't done yet. Hear me now, believe me later. Many of you know what this Management Co. has done to other communities just like SLR. and its coming faster than you all think.
Signed electronically
Jm Grnt
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Post by Lra on Feb 18, 2015 8:23:57 GMT -5
Jm,
This is M. e. l.'s style. I had a fan running in my shed during my move to protect historical papers from the early 18 00 ' s that will someday go to the D.A.R. It was there for just two to three weeks. M. e. l. ordered an employee to cut the cord or loose his job. I filed a police report with the employee's testimony included. Sent the report to Board members and received one very nasty letter back. (All part of my counter suit). Now fast forward. Another shed just this past Dec/Jan had an extension cord plugged in for 5 weeks and never a problem. Good old SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT. Yes, this type of action on management falls under civil rights.
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