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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Oct 22, 2014 6:02:46 GMT -5
There's a fat pigeon on security night shift that has been up to no good lately. This psychopath goes around picking on women, sometimes in the dead of night, too much of a coward to do his ill shit during the day. One of these days he's going to have to have a face-to-face with a real man, and then he will continue to be a coward and run away. Avoiding the inevitable prolongs his stupidity and cowardice. This is typical of someone w/lack of self esteem and a large ego that must be fed by use of his plastic badge. 10-22-2014 @ 0635
Teary Havnone on the managers cart comes down STN in "stealth mode" and then proceeds to light up 36 STN with his halogen flashlight. My wife and I were enjoying the stars and having coffee and saying hello to passers but then all of the sudden Teary yells to my wife..."CAROL...YOU F**CKING CUN*-----FUC* YOU YOU FUC*ING COC*SU**ER"
This must be SOP for T.H., and it is unfortunate that we provide employment to this type of person.
RUDE BEHAVIOUR SEEMS STANDARD WITH TEARY.
There are witnesses to this action from T.H. and it will eventually be uploaded to this forum.
Time for a change people, your money is paying this lunatic to harass and be rude and crude to people just enjoying the early morning hours. UNACCEPTABLE.
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Post by secondhandmillionair on Oct 22, 2014 6:33:20 GMT -5
maybe teray is sleeping with his eyes open to talk that way to your wife..I guess a person such as him is somewhat of a mental giant..It is time to put a stop to TEARY
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Post by Oscar Weiner on Oct 22, 2014 6:50:22 GMT -5
to pick on women, Terary must have a really really Sm all and inadequit one-I mean ego, of course.
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Post by Lra on Oct 22, 2014 7:21:29 GMT -5
Teary Havnone on the managers cart comes down STN in "stealth mode" and then proceeds to light up 36 STN with his halogen flashlight. My wife and I were enjoying the stars and having coffee and saying hello to passers but then all of the sudden Teary yells to my wife..."CAROL...YOU F**CKING CUN*-----FUC* YOU YOU FUC*ING COC*SU**ER"
This must be SOP for T.H., and it is unfortunate that we provide employment to this type of person.
RUDE BEHAVIOUR SEEMS STANDARD WITH TEARY.
There are witnesses to this action from T.H. and it will eventually be uploaded to this forum.
Time for a change people, your money is paying this lunatic to harass and be rude and crude to people just enjoying the early morning hours. UNACCEPTABLE.
Yesterday it was the street in front of 66 SS where Mr. Hayvin did an oil dump, again. As a therapist using the Rorschach Ink Blotch Test, the interpretation of the blotches shows a scattered, out of control personality bordering on anti - social tendencies that can be easily influenced by others in order to gain acceptance of oneself. Yes, some of us do have the education and credentials to support these findings.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2014 9:25:41 GMT -5
This person is seriously SICK! It is kinda embarrassing and voyeuristic to see Teary display his damaged psyche and act out his psychological demons in public!
Management gave him access to SLohA equipment? Was he on- or off-duty on a Weds morning (thought he was weekend)? Did Management train Teary to shout obsenities at owners and assault them by shining blindingly bright lights in their eyes?
Management is reminded of some realities: owners are NOT tolerating the carelessness with which our supposed "leaders" are supervising employee and CAM conduct. Teary is clearly a pawn of mamager, who is encouraging and sponsoring the dangerous and reckless behaviors. The Board does not condemn the behavior nor correct the CAM. Therefore, the Board CONDONES this treatment of owners by this sicko employee. Owners will go outside the park to seek redress, if necessary. Among other interested parties are the insurers of S-bag premises liability.
IT can make all the silly rules and policies she wants to protect her pawn but it does not mean SQUAT. There is no more credibility or legitimacy of this "leadership" to be lost.
SLohA employees should be nervous about a fellow employee who is threatening THEIR employment with irresponsible and pathologic behavior. When owner-employees harrass neighbors at the request or encouragement of a Board-sponsored vendor, there will come a day when the liability becomes too risky and ALL owner-employee relationships will be severed. SLohA will then hire ALL help from independent outside agencies and the responsible employees will lose their job. (This is something that I believe should happen in any case as it is an unhealthy social condition for owners to have any " relationship imbalance" with other owners.)
Am still mystified by the SHE-spell over this brain-dead bunch of directors who are letting this place go to hell in a handbasket!
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Post by New Owner on Oct 22, 2014 9:58:22 GMT -5
Dear Admin, I can appreciate your comments and thank you for them all. I have been a silent reader, watching but never making any comments. That has now changed and I feel the need to spread the word that there is something seriously wrong here, not with the residents but with management, a few employees and the board of directors for not controlling the people we are supposed to trust. We as a community are being disrespected and it all appears to all lead back to the manager being the cause of all of saddlebags problems.
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Post by courious on Oct 24, 2014 19:24:07 GMT -5
0638hrs security van runs stop sign @ ST & STS 0648hrs security van west bound runs stop sign from STN on to ST The Shadow had a most troubling telephone call today from Canada. One of our Canadian owners was reading the Forum postings regarding Security and Mr. Hayven. This owner had an encounter with Mr. Hayvin and became intimidated when Mr. Hayvin while on duty as a Security guard yelled: "I have a gun and I know how to use it". at him/her. This owner is very unsure about their return to S-bag this Fall/Winter. The Shadow is urging this resident to come forward, but the fear of safety to both property and self is at stake. The Shadow +18 will keep residents posted.
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Oct 28, 2014 11:17:30 GMT -5
10-28-2014 Upon returning home @ 11:48am I, James Grnt was greeted by my wife and told that Teary Havnone came by my home in his green machine and shouted at the top of his voice 3 times "F**K YOUR WIFE"
Wake up folks, Teary Havnone is as unhinged as it gets. In other words, that boys cheese has done slid off the cracker.
Eye and ear witness statements have been written. That's all I can say since I was not home when this incident occurred.
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Post by Admin on Oct 28, 2014 11:48:16 GMT -5
Well, I wasn't home either, but I got a distressed phone call from Carol while dilating in my opthamologist's waiting room. I left the waiting area to talk to her and offer emotional support. I cannot believe the never-ending filthy mouth on that man! And shouting to women from a moving vehicle. He does not have the _____ to spew obscenities on the fly to MEN--only women alone. What a piece of ________ !
What will it take to get this rogue board to get rid of this very real liability to the park? Complaints are now outbound since nothing seems to register with this comatose group. I hope you will consider a restraining order against him.
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Post by Im Trying on Oct 28, 2014 12:20:12 GMT -5
It is time to replace the Board, with people with some common sense. This present BOD is an enabler to such behavior. I would think his past has skeletons in the closet. We all have them, but some are worst then others. He needs help, as he is very sick, I do believe.
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Post by BagLady on Oct 30, 2014 20:06:40 GMT -5
I do recall this trouble starting when Teary flew by contract workers on 66SS and threatened them "You won't get in here tomorrow, I'll see to that!" Subsequently, he: ...threatened to burn the owner's house down" ...shouted "I have a gun and I know how to use it!" ...loosened the lug nuts on the owner's golf cart tires and cut wires. When confronted by Police, he admits his misdeeds and says he was "mad" (see police report). ...sent hateful emails to an owner from the office during his shift ...aims the security van spotlights in selected owners windows while on patrol ...is suspected of damaging vehicle and tires of a female owner on SS ...is suspected of banging on the home of a female owner in the middle of the night on BK and tearing down her Christmas decorations ...painted over the 15mph sign in front of 66SS in the dark during his shift; he also dumped oil on the road in front of 66SS. ...is suspected of pulling the 15mph sign out of the ground in front of 66SS ...was observed videorecording 66SS in daytime without authorization from MANBOD ...threw an irrational tantrum in the Oct 2014 BOD meeting and was running around shouting "Where is she?" Where is she". A male owner moved his body between Teary and the female who he was referring to so that Teary could not see where she was. ...has been witnessed shrieking obscenities at female owner on STN TWICE within a week ...attempted to post an insulting and obscene message to Baglady which was quarantined but remains "hidden" from view for evidentiary purposes, if needed in the future. What will it take for this negligent BOD to take action? Are they the mamager's capons there for decoration only? Can't act without her recommendation and approval? Here are Teary's latest. The forms used are various; one is an "complaint/suggestion/memo form and the other is a copy of a forum post. All have been duplicated for forwarding to the BOD--the ones who will eventually be held accountable for damages as a result of this conduct and their neglect to do what is needed--what "a reasonable and prudent person" would do in these circumstances. Date of Incident: 10/22/2014 Reporter: Jm Grnt Teary on the Managers cart comes down STN in "stealth mode" and then proceeds to light up 36STN with his halogen flashlight. My wife and I were enjoying the stars and having coffee and saying hello to passers but then all of the sudden Teary yells to my wife "CAROL, YOU F**ING CUN*--FUC* YOU YOU FUC*ING COC* SU**ER". This must be SOP for T.H. and it is unfortunate that we provide employment to this kind of person. RUDE BEHAVIOR SEEMS STANDARD WITH TEARY. There are witnesses to this action and it will eventually be uploaded to this Forum. Here is a SECOND instance; Date of Incident 10/28/2014 reported by female target of this man's filthy mouth On Oct 28, 2014 at 9:08am, I was in my back yard talking with another resident--Brian Park. When we heard Teary Hayvin drive by in his Polaris RV we both destincly heard Teary Hayvin yell: "FU** YOUR WIFE--FU** YOUR WIFE..FU** YOUR WIFE, as he drove by the front of our house at 36STN. He shouted it three (3) times that I could hear. This is continued harassment from Teary Hayvin that has been going on for a least two weeks whereby Teary Hayvin yells and shouts obscenities about me each and every morning when he drives by. I have not had any contact with Teary Hayvin in the last (almost) 2 years now. I believe Brian Park will also be giving you his statement regarding this incident as he was a witness to what Teary Hayvin shouted as he drove by our house on Oct 28, 2014 @ approx 9:08 am. Please copy the Manager and BOD's on this. Thank you. Carol Grnt. Here is the witness statement by Brian Park: On Oct 28, I was picking up material from Jm Grnt's house. Jm was not present at the time. As we chatted, Teary Hayvin drove past in his golf cart yelling "FU** YOUR WIFE 3 times out loud. There is just no need for this in our community and reflects badly on the board since he is on security. I hope you will have a word to him and settle this situation down. Brian Park We sH all see where these complaints go--MAMAGER promised IN WRITING " If it is a complaint and/or suggestion which can be addressed by the Board or management, you will be notified of the procedure, timeframe, and outcome." I suppose there is a very large loophole here "If it can be addressed etc..." so we will probably not hear another word about his. Complaints probably already shredded for kitty litter (which is why they have to go separately to the BOD so they are ON NOTICE and ACCOUNTABLE.)
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Post by Guest on Oct 31, 2014 4:32:37 GMT -5
I do recall this trouble starting when Teary flew by contract workers on 66SS and threatened them "You won't get in here tomorrow, I'll see to that!" Subsequently, he: ...threatened to burn the owner's house down" ...shouted "I have a gun and I know how to use it!" ...loosened the lug nuts on the owner's golf cart tires and cut wires. When confronted by Police, he admits his misdeeds and says he was "mad" (see police report). ...sent hateful emails to an owner from the office during his shift ...aims the security van spotlights in selected owners windows while on patrol ...is suspected of damaging vehicle and tires of a female owner on SS ...is suspected of banging on the home of a female owner in the middle of the night on BK and tearing down her Christmas decorations ...painted over the 15mph sign in front of 66SS in the dark during his shift; he also dumped oil on the road in front of 66SS. ...is suspected of pulling the 15mph sign out of the ground in front of 66SS ...was observed videorecording 66SS in daytime without authorization from MANBOD ...threw an irrational tantrum in the Oct 2014 BOD meeting and was running around shouting "Where is she?" Where is she". A male owner moved his body between Teary and the female who he was referring to so that Teary could not see where she was. ...has been witnessed shrieking obscenities at female owner on STN TWICE within a week ...attempted to post an insulting and obscene message to Baglady which was quarantined but remains "hidden" from view for evidentiary purposes, if needed in the future. What will it take for this negligent BOD to take action? Are they the mamager's capons there for decoration only? Can't act without her recommendation and approval? Here are Teary's latest. The forms used are various; one is an "complaint/suggestion/memo form and the other is a copy of a forum post. All have been duplicated for forwarding to the BOD--the ones who will eventually be held accountable for damages as a result of this conduct and their neglect to do what is needed--what "a reasonable and prudent person" would do in these circumstances. Date of Incident: 10/22/2014 Reporter: Jm Grnt Teary on the Managers cart comes down STN in "stealth mode" and then proceeds to light up 36STN with his halogen flashlight. My wife and I were enjoying the stars and having coffee and saying hello to passers but then all of the sudden Teary yells to my wife "CAROL, YOU F**ING CUN*--FUC* YOU YOU FUC*ING COC* SU**ER". This must be SOP for T.H. and it is unfortunate that we provide employment to this kind of person. RUDE BEHAVIOR SEEMS STANDARD WITH TEARY. There are witnesses to this action and it will eventually be uploaded to this Forum. Here is a SECOND instance; Date of Incident 10/28/2014 reported by female target of this man's filthy mouth On Oct 28, 2014 at 9:08am, I was in my back yard talking with another resident--Brian Park. When we heard Teary Hayvin drive by in his Polaris RV we both destincly heard Teary Hayvin yell: "FU** YOUR WIFE--FU** YOUR WIFE..FU** YOUR WIFE, as he drove by the front of our house at 36STN. He shouted it three (3) times that I could hear. This is continued harassment from Teary Hayvin that has been going on for a least two weeks whereby Teary Hayvin yells and shouts obscenities about me each and every morning when he drives by. I have not had any contact with Teary Hayvin in the last (almost) 2 years now. I believe Brian Park will also be giving you his statement regarding this incident as he was a witness to what Teary Hayvin shouted as he drove by our house on Oct 28, 2014 @ approx 9:08 am. Please copy the Manager and BOD's on this. Thank you. Carol Grnt. Here is the witness statement by Brian Park: On Oct 28, I was picking up material from Jm Grnt's house. Jm was not present at the time. As we chatted, Teary Hayvin drove past in his golf cart yelling "FU** YOUR WIFE 3 times out loud. There is just no need for this in our community and reflects badly on the board since he is on security. I hope you will have a word to him and settle this situation down. Brian Park We sH all see where these complaints go--MAMAGER promised IN WRITING " If it is a complaint and/or suggestion which can be addressed by the Board or management, you will be notified of the procedure, timeframe, and outcome." I suppose there is a very large loophole here "If it can be addressed etc..." so we will probably not hear another word about his. Complaints probably already shredded for kitty litter (which is why they have to go separately to the BOD so they are ON NOTICE and ACCOUNTABLE.) This is very concerning for us as residents in our community and I am uncertain about the mental stability of the man in question. Being angry is one thing but if all these acts have indeed occurred, this man sounds like a liability issue for our present BOD and Management. Can SLR afford this type of kind of liability? Should they keep someone like this employed? If this happened on his own personal time, it's an owner to owner issue. If he was on duty, being paid by SLohA, then this man needs to be terminated to eliminate any legal problems that could occur because of his behavior.
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Post by BagLady on Oct 31, 2014 6:01:26 GMT -5
Guest wrote:
Being the coward that Tiny Teary is, most of these episodes were done under the cover of darkness while on duty, employed by SLohA as night-shift security.
ALL of these events, except the shout-out to the contractors working on 66 SS and a threatening email to a male owner, were directed to WOMEN and/or their property.
One of the off-duty episodes was witnessed while he was driving the Manager golf cart in the daytime and directed toward a woman.
There is a wealth of photographic evidence, computer internet bread crumb trails and witness testimony to substantiate these accusations and to establish the negligence of SLohA in carrying out its fiduciary duty to protect the property of the Association from this obviously unhinged man and employee.
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Post by secondhandmillionair on Oct 31, 2014 7:26:08 GMT -5
I know when you play with people like this one need to go into a full acting part..And play the part... Mr.Teary has not met his match yet just give it time..I sure that this bully will come face to face with his match I just hope when he does that he is intelligent enough not to tease the animal just back away because there is no second chance for him..It will be over before it start for Mr.Teary..So to say the animal does not play or does not distinguish between right or wrong he attacks when threaten with no regret on his part..
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Post by slanty on Oct 31, 2014 7:43:02 GMT -5
Guest wrote: Being the coward that Tiny Teary is, most of these episodes were done under the cover of darkness while on duty, employed by SLohA as night-shift security. ALL of these events, except the shout-out to the contractors working on 66 SS and a threatening email to a male owner, were directed to WOMEN and/or their property. One of the off-duty episodes was witnessed while he was driving the Manager golf cart in the daytime and directed toward a woman. There is a wealth of photographic evidence, computer internet bread crumb trails and witness testimony to substantiate these accusations and to establish the negligence of SLohA in carrying out its fiduciary duty to protect the property of the Association from this obviously unhinged man and employee. Have you noticed that a majority of Mr. Hayvin ' s attacks have been aimed at women? Does this speak to an inadequacy problem or what? Real men are far above this kind of behavior.
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Post by Bill Harrell on Nov 3, 2014 20:09:59 GMT -5
I cannot believe what I have just read in the above posts. How can this go on in a community such as S-bag and nothing be done about it? If these things are true especially about him threatening and calling women names, why do they not S u e him for defamation of character. WHY DO THOSE PEOPLE TAKE THAT? IS IT FEAR OF THE MAN? I believe the laws would support anything the people would bring up. Don't understand how this could happen when he is employed and paid by the people of S-bag. This is total harrassment if it is all true and there are laws to protect people from that. It should be stopped now. Is this brought up in the board mtgs?
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Post by BagLady on Nov 3, 2014 22:06:21 GMT -5
At least two reasons come to mind:
--defamation is EXTREMELY hard to prosecute unless you are a celebrity with a big bag of money. And, even if the case was "open and shut" you still have to prove that you were damaged in some way. Lawyers generally avoid this kind of litigation unless you are very rich and famous.
--Why do people take it? What are their reasonable choices? This is a fly-by coward who rides past people very fast and shouts obscenities from his or the Manager's golf cart. He does his destructive work on his night shift. He is obviously nuts, but the victims would be more nuts to chase after him or approach him at night. You can call the cops, but they come in and say "no crime here--it's a civil matter" and that's that! There are 19 late night people and insomniacs in various areas of the park who are watching him and his whereabouts on his weekend shifts. Mamager calls this "stalking" and then whines in an open letter that owners are bothering the employees and threatens owners with "action" if they don't desist.
The law may intend to provide legal relief from people like this but in practicality, few can afford to take this on. This is not what retirees had in mind for their golden years. Owners did not save money in anticipation of paying for expensive lawsuits to protect themselves from sociopathic neighbors, abusive property management and a sadistic and lawless board. The Board sponsors this man's behavior through the proxy of the Mamager.
Oh my, you need to catch up a little! At the last BOD meeting, owners were told that their Comments were so unnecessary and insignificant that they need not be mentioned in the Minutes at all; that Robber's Rules allowed them to adjourn the meeting BEFORE allowing Owners to comment!
When someone brings something up that the Board does not want the general audience to hear about they yell "We are not going to talk about that!", "That is not on the agenda!" "You are beating a dead horse!" "YOUR TIME IS UP!" "Sit down!" "You are out of order!" "Remove the speaker!" It is vicious the way the board attacks the people in here. Only a few courageous owners have the grit and resolve to even attempt to speak, knowing they will be boo/hissed by the Clappers or harangued by the Board.
Thereafter, the speaker who expressed an alternative opinion, problem or dissatisfaction is on the BOD Hit List and eligible for their special brand of intimidation, harassment and abuse "M. e. l.-Style".
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Post by courious on Nov 4, 2014 7:22:33 GMT -5
The need to form an alternative watch patrol by THE SHADOW + 19 this summer was the only true protection that our year round residents had for true protection. Some videos and photographing and written notes with time and dates have been accumulated for that "potential" day in court. It is sad that within this wonderful community about 35 people can cause so much harm and damage. But, it only takes 2 or 3 "hit men" to ruin it for others. Having pegged the people who feel righteous and justified to control others was only done in order to watch out for the rights and well being of everyone else here at S-bag.
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Post by courious on Nov 12, 2014 19:54:28 GMT -5
The Shadow + 21 here. WARNING: THE MIDNIGHT FLASHES IS BACK ON PATROL UNESCORTED. Yep, lock your doors and pull your blinds down. Mr. T Hayven is roaming the streets again. And not necessarily on his usual Thursday through Sunday schedule. He was last o served flashing homes at 5:19 am Wednesday morning. We have added two additional early morning walkers to our ranks. Hopefully, with all the residents returning, Mr. Hayven will try out his newly acquired "conflict management" skills on himself and leave others alone.
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Post by BagLady on Nov 12, 2014 20:39:33 GMT -5
Security flashed the spotlights in my windows two times in the last week or so. There is no rational security reason to shine bright lights in residents' windows.
I used to think that Security was a nice extra assurance but now take steps to protect myself from Security and the Board such as motion lights and lights on timers. I now park my car perpendicular in my driveway for better view of security cameras. Security in S-bag is anything but secure.
This is a despicable management company and board that encourages this treatment of the people who pay it and to whom they owe their loyalty.
Anger Management class was just a Dog 'n Pony show for the insurance company.
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