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Post by Dick Tracy on Nov 24, 2014 23:49:18 GMT -5
A Brief Note; I attended the Nov. BOD's Meeting, on the Agenda was approval of the Proposed Budget, it was approved by all BODs. Last Wednesday my wife called the front office, spoke to the front counter staff, to inquire about getting a copy of the proposed new Budget. The staff put my wife on hold, she came back after a brief period of time. The staff person stated, copies of the BOD approved new Proposed Budget would be available on Friday. Well, I did not get a chance to get to the office on Friday, so I went today at 9am. I ask for a copy of the Proposed Budget, and again the staff had to go to the back office, she came up front and stated the Approved Proposed Budget is not available at this time. She was told that the BODs may have to make changes in the New Budget. Of course I am A Doubting Thomas, and think this maybe a stall tactic on Managements part.
The BODs does have a Privileged BOD Mtg. on Wednesday at 3pm. in the Board Room, topic; Pending Litigation, so it is possible our trusted leaders may need more monies added to the Budget to cover additional Attorney Fees or for Settlements.
But if they do make any changes to the BOD approved Budget Proposal, they will have to give Notice and have a Special Board Meeting, to vote to approve any changes made in the Budget. If they do not follow the Election Rules, Well, remember last Years Dual Ballot Fiasco, we could be in for a Repeat, if our Leaders disregard SLohA's Rules & Regulations.
What they like to do is hand out copies of the Proposed Budget at the door, the day of the Annual Budget Meeting. That procedure gives the Member of SLohA the minimum amout of time to study the Proposed Budget. Or they have done us a favor in the past, and given us a Copy the day before the Annual Budget Meeting.
So in the next few days, "We Will See Where The Chips Fall"....
The BOD and Management have lost my Trust, to do the Members right... Jm 16RC
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Post by BagLady on Nov 25, 2014 8:39:07 GMT -5
Here we go again! This BOD did the same thing last year--presented an unapproved Proposed Budget to the Membership to vote on and belatedly motioned and approved a proposed budget!
The Unavailable proposed budget supposedly being tweaked/changed MUST be motioned and passed by this BOD at a duly-called board meeting before being presented to Membership on the ballot. This must be done in a BOD meeting, giving members the usual 5 day notice. The proposed budget should be IMMEDIATELY available for distribution!
This MANBOD nonsense of "making changes" in duly-approved documents after the fact is unlawful and deceitful. The MANBOD nonsense of withholding a proposed budget from members until the last possible moment is rude and unethical and further erodes any remaining confidence.
The fact that you have been advised that the proposed budget is not available and that "the BOD may have to make changes in the new proposed budget is prima facie evidence of misconduct.
Reminds me of last March 2014 when members passed Rules on the Ballot and BOD just changed the document to suit their agenda prior to recording and publishing. These Rules will NEVER pass legal scrutiny if cH allenged because they have been shown to have been tampered with AND the BOD has been placed on written notice of that fact--and has refused to act.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Nov 28, 2014 20:38:30 GMT -5
We are still waiting on the copies of The BODs Approved Proposed Budget. What seems to be the problem? Is the copy machine in need of repair? If so go to Clf's Hardware in town....
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Post by Admin on Nov 29, 2014 7:47:20 GMT -5
Dick Tracy said:
The problem is not really a problem per se--just the same ole same ole. Routine non-transparency, monkey business, secretiveness sprinkled with deceit. MANBOD is trying to include monies for its own expenses that are not easily identifiable. They don't want any nosy owners scrutinizing the numbers ahead of the meeting.
Copies are unnecessary if the budget is posted on CHUG where anyone can make their own copies. These people will likely wait until the day of the meeting to hand out a budget.
Any budget increase is highly suspicious at this point. This MANBOD et al has clearly shown that it will do whatever it wishes related to the sponsorship and expansion of this telecommunications business trespassing on our property. SLR has likely already spent thousands of member dollars for the benefit of this business. They have stated that they are adding money to the budget in anticipation of "monitoring"--whatever that means.
This is in the "Unofficial Minutes" but you will not see this in the Official Minutes. There are many things that were discussed but do not appear in the Official Minutes--not just Owner Comments.
If I were voting, I would vote NO to any budget increase on principle and force them to go through the process again and again until MANBOD demonstrates some fiscal restraint and follows both the letter and spirit of the law!
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Post by Admin on Dec 1, 2014 14:37:48 GMT -5
Monday Dec 1
STILL no proposed budget? Anyone know what the hold up is?
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Post by Admin on Dec 1, 2014 16:08:04 GMT -5
Well, it took quite a bit of persistence, but the DRAFT Proposed Budget is attached. Toneesha Shrodr, the Stmbug Ixx bookkeeper, stated that this budget was the one which the Board ratified on Nov 19, 2014. Here is the DRAFT>>> Attachment DeletedHere is the cover email: -----Original Message----- From: Stmbug Ixx, Inc. <stambaughinc@verizon.net> To: 'James Ath' <jauth1@aol.com> Cc: 'SLR Manager' <Manager@SLRmail.com> Sent: Mon, Dec 1, 2014 3:47 pm Subject: 2015.2016 Proposed DRAFT Budget Hi J, Per our conversation, see attached proposed budget. Also please understand that we are in the St ages of making sure each line item is correct on the Reserves side and hence M. e. l. does not have the final version of the schedule. We do not anticipate the bottom line to change. We are just making sure all numbers are good to go. I called M. e. l. and rest assured there was no disrespect meant in not supplying the budget. Also M. e. l. has been very ill and has not been accepting visitors. Let me know if I can be of further assistance. Toneesha Shrodr Executive Administrator/Accountant Stmbug Ixx, Inc. Comm. Assoc. Mgmt. Srvcs. Phone: 863-324-5100 Fax: 863-324-5114 |
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Post by GTO on Dec 1, 2014 22:30:23 GMT -5
What the heck, 1REPAIREDprint...pdf (189.56 KB), what was repaired and when? Or am I missing something.
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Post by pestcontrol on Dec 1, 2014 23:01:43 GMT -5
Did I just read it right or is my eye sight going? Last fiscal year our legal budget was $7,000; this fiscal year it was $27,000; and next year they want $50,000. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? We hire the management company's attorneys to S u e each other and now the figure breaks down to almost $65.00 per owner per year added on to our annual assessments. Add that to the $40.00 per year for water.
ARE YOU READY FOR A $100.00 INCREASE? I'm not.
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Post by courious on Dec 2, 2014 0:03:30 GMT -5
Did I just read it right or is my eye sight going? Last fiscal year our legal budget was $7,000; this fiscal year it was $27,000; and next year they want $50,000. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? We hire the management company's attorneys to S u e each other and now the figure breaks down to almost $65.00 per owner per year added on to our annual assessments. Add that to the $40.00 per year for water. ARE YOU READY FOR A $100.00 INCREASE? I'm not. PESTCONTROL: Calm yourself. Indeed President Brdun said at the October Board meeting after one correspondence was read from a resident who received a certified letter threatening to put a lien on their property immediately if payment was not received immediately and this resident was not yet 45 days late with an association payment: "This is our new way of doing business". And D Brnd added: "It's just a late notice". All in all it requires an attorney to put that lien on the property. Maybe now, there will be liens on properties for unpainted stumps or residents given illegal fines by the new Violation Committee. It all requires neighbor going after neighbor. What a mess this Board has started. We must take back S-bag from these tyrants. We do not need more legal fees. We need more brotherly love. |
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Post by Lra on Dec 2, 2014 5:52:18 GMT -5
I am appalled that this Board is asking for double the legal budget next year ---$50,000.
This has caused me to now go on record about the events of the lawsuit against us. It is NOT about the front porch/ deck.
It is aBout the manager making several mistakes and then after we took receivership of the unit and paid out $100,000.00, that we make a change. On top of that, Stmbg Ixx even wrote a letter read into correspondence apologizing for the errors of Ms. Kreeow.
So our Board hires the Stmbg Ixx attorneys to S u e the owners.
But wait, there is more.
The SLohA Board wanted more. They sued us for all of our current assets (including our home) and all of our future monies for the "IRREPARABLE HARM " we did to S-bag. According to the legal papers filed they wanted the VERY HIGHER AWARDED POSSIBLE UNDER FLORIDA LAW.
I came from poverty. I remember days without food and being pregnant and eating dog food to provide enough protein for my unborn child.
Suing me for all that I worked my life for through me over the edge and I had to leave for 2 months to pull myself back together from this MEAN SPIRITED group of folks called your Board.
This mean spirited group also cased so much stress on Gngr that she almost died.
I BEG YOU. DO NOT GIVE THIS BOARD OR MANAGEMENT COMPANY ANY MORE MONEY TO HARM OTHERS.
Lra Tmyk, 66 Siversides.
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Post by Admin on Dec 2, 2014 6:50:40 GMT -5
I am also shocked and appalled at the insanity of this Board who thinks anyone in their right mind is going to agree to finance their personal vendettas against owners by giving them MORE MONEY for legal fees!
Board to Owners: "Please approve AND PAY the increased assessment dues for legal fees so that we can S u e YOU if you dare to cH allenge our authority to abuse you!"
What they should be talking about short term is increasing D & O insurance coverage IF Tower Hill even wants SLohA business in the future! If any or all of the 2 and possibly 3 lawsuits results in a damage award higher than insurance policy limits (which are probably the minimum at this time), it will make the Legal Fee Budget Item look like chump change! The difference will come out of YOUR wallet all at once!
If I were Tower Hill with all these loser lawsuits in the pipeline, I would tell SLohA to "take a hike--you are too risky".
Vote NO on this budget and ANY budget that asks for more money without PROOF of NEED. Feeding the Management Company and their attorneys is not a justifiable need-it provides for systematic plundering of the HOA money pit for the benefit of the Management Company and the sadistic, egotistical, prejudicial mindsets and bankrupt souls on the board.
Members should also bear in mind that, even if you vote NO on the budget, SLohA bills must be paid. Voting NO will not stop the greedy, irrational MANBOD from continuing to engage attorneys to harass and intimidate owners. The attorneys will be hired because this Board is instructed to do so by the Management Company "for the good of the community".
S-bag has been slapped into the gutter by MANBOD; it would take a great amount of denial to not see the direction that this community is headed. If S-bag is going to SURVIVE and THRIVE, it must reconstitute this board with responsible owners who want to truly serve the owners and send the Management company packin'!
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Post by CAROL Grnt on Dec 2, 2014 10:49:45 GMT -5
I'd like to know what type, kind, etc., of irreparable harm that was done to S-Bag by the owners of 66 SS simply for having a lovely home sited on their lot? What kind of an idiotic claim is this? This Manbod CAN NOT prove any type of "irreparable harm" since THEY are the ones causing all the harm here--just look at the medical emergencies these two owners have personally faced in the last few months from the stresses of this ridiculous, senseless, idiotic lawsuit that manbod brought.
Sounds like a bunch of trumped up BullShit that they will NEVER be able to prove in ANY court of law--and it would be an expensive endeavor for them to do so--expensive to all owners, that is. They need to give this lawsuit up now; they've already thrown a ton of good money after bad--it's time to put a tourniquet on and STOP the BLEEDING of our monies for these senseless lawsuits!
But, then, again, the attorneys probably told manbod this, but, as usual, they ignore all advice of the attorneys.
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Post by Admin on Dec 2, 2014 11:42:39 GMT -5
I hope that Toneesha appreciates that the Board did not ratify a "bottom line"--they ratified every single individual element of the budget--what amount goes on each Line Item of Operating and Reserve budgets. The DRAFT/REPAIRED version cannot change; according to her, this is the one ratified by the Board. I am sure her TOPS financial software can get those numbers added up right!
If any of those numbers are changed on any line item--Operating or Reserve--the Proposed Amended budget needs to be re-ratified by the Board prior to presenting it to the Membership. That means another Budget Meeting, as well, to explain the altered construction of the proposed amended budget.
The time for tentative DRAFT status passed as of Nov 19, 2014.
As it is, this board has "some 'splainin to do". Owners await the requested financial/administrative justification on the claimed increase in water costs.
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Post by Lra on Dec 3, 2014 10:48:36 GMT -5
I am appalled that this Board is asking for double the legal budget next year ---$50,000.
This has caused me to now go on record about the events of the lawsuit against us. It is NOT about the front porch/ deck.
It is aBout the manager making several mistakes and then after we took receivership of the unit and paid out $100,000.00, that we make a change. On top of that, Stmbg Ixx even wrote a letter read into correspondence apologizing for the errors of Ms. Kreeow.
So our Board hires the Stmbg Ixx attorneys to S u e the owners.
But wait, there is more.
The SLohA Board wanted more. They sued us for all of our current assets (including our home) and all of our future monies for the "IRREPARABLE HARM " we did to S-bag. According to the legal papers filed they wanted the VERY HIGHER AWARDED POSSIBLE UNDER FLORIDA LAW.
I came from poverty. I remember days without food and being pregnant and eating dog food to provide enough protein for my unborn child.
Suing me for all that I worked my life for through me over the edge and I had to leave for 2 months to pull myself back together from this MEAN SPIRITED group of folks called your Board.
This mean spirited group also cased so much stress on Gngr that she almost died.
I BEG YOU. DO NOT GIVE THIS BOARD OR MANAGEMENT COMPANY ANY MORE MONEY TO HARM OTHERS.
Lra Tmyk, 66 Siversides.
When and where will this all end?
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Post by Admin on Dec 3, 2014 11:23:05 GMT -5
I think a jury trial would be the Kiss of Death for this Board. YOU will eventually get ALL your money back plus a crapload of damages when this jury's stomach turns at the story about how this corporation has treated you. SLohA will be paying much more than its attorney's fees (which will look like pocket change) but all your fees and awarded damages as well! Then, when you prevail, you will be free to pursue the directors individually for their part in perpetrating this injury to your health and well-being.
I remember after the mediation when Frd and I discussed suing the board directors individually. At that time, I told Frd that I didn't have an appetite to do S u e the directors individually and stated that I wished to hold off.
Well--I'm hungry now and I bet Frd is salivating.
What this action suggests to me is that the Board directors are desperate to keep going and to try to get YOU to back down. My bet is that Tower Hill insurance company is not happy about this. Tower Hill has some kind of liability limit on the D & O policy. Does the board believe it can just put a Special Assessment on all the owners for the difference if a shocked and disgusted jury throws the book at S-bag? Sounds like the "outwait" strategy; they will get postponements and hope you will get tired and withdraw.
The interrogatories are due back in a couple weeks right?
I realize you are upset at the outlay of money both for yourself and on behalf of the other victims in this MANBOD drama--the owners! Owners need to realize that they are financing this persecution for years to come and that the requested amount of $50,000 in next year's budget is just a downpayment. Fortunately, you have your war chest to rely upon.
On a happier note, I am REALLY glad that Gngr is back home recuperating!
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Post by observer on Dec 3, 2014 11:46:44 GMT -5
Thank you, Carol, you certainly hit the nail on the head. For Gngr the stress caused her Lupus to flare, and consequently weakened her to get an infection in her blood (Septic). Which came close to killing her if it were not for an excellent cardiologist who discovered it. 16 days in the hospital and 4 more of antibiotics in huge strength via a picc line. It will take her months to recover. Don't we have a lovely, caring board that would push people to illness and mental anguish? Oh, by the by, if you still don't believe they got all their permissions for the house, stop by and they will show you Melonkee's signature etc.
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Dec 3, 2014 11:52:55 GMT -5
Manbod will NEVER win this case in court--especially if it goes to a jury trial. Any jurors chosen will be sympathetic to the owners of 66 SS, and should see to it that they award damages to these 2 owners from the personal finances of the board and management co. that brought this law suit rather than the entire ownership of SLR.
Going after these goons individually is the only way to get their attention--since they don't care about spending our HOA monies wisely, it's time to get them in their own pockets.
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Post by Admin on Dec 3, 2014 16:18:45 GMT -5
Anonymous Environmentalist posted:
It is certainly true that jurors will be appalled at the actions of this BOD and likely award to the limit of the law, but the award must be payable by SLohA--not the individual directors. Doesn't seem fair but any Owner can later bring a lawsuit for breach of fiduciary against these people and seek damages. Breach of fiduciary is not usually covered by corporate D & O insurance and the directors will have to get their own attorneys to answer the charges.
Management company will likely fly under the radar unless a crime has been committed. Could get messy for them, however, because the directors will point the finger at to defend their actions.
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Post by courious on Dec 5, 2014 16:05:10 GMT -5
Looking over the proposed budget, I do not understand why there is $5,000.00 allocated for engineering. If SLohA does not own the towers in question and no future building is proposed why is it a budget item?
Next, where does it show all of the contracted work? We have buildings power washed and painted, roads painted, septic waste hauling, etc. and no direct reference in the budget.
Then, what about the profit made from stump painting? That should be under income.
Add to that, late fees charged to owners.
Of course we cannot forget those vendors. And why does the budget not show the discount the attorneys are giving to SLohA?
Questions, questions, questions.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Dec 6, 2014 1:58:51 GMT -5
What we need is a Forensic Audit, with all of the dysfunctional and bazaar things this Board of Directors has done in the past, I simply do not have any respect for this group. Plus the Manager repeatably lies to the residents, and who in their right mind would have the CEO of Stmbug Ixx Inc. name on the authorized check signing card. That is crazy, plus according to SLohA Documents, you have to be a member of SLohA to be on the check cashing list. This group is leaving the residents in the dark. So how much faith do you have, that all is well with our monies. Many question indeed, need to be answered.
Water bill 20% increase, that's about $31,000 per year, For What? Our present leaders will not give up that information. Proposed $50,000 for Attorney Fees! So they can S u e the residents, with our $$$$$.. B.S.
"Vote No" on this Proposed Budget !
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