Post by Admin on Dec 17, 2014 14:12:23 GMT -5
UNOFFICIAL Minutes of Meeting
BOD Meeting Dec 17, 2014
Manager’s report (to be published separately) Somebody is removing soap from the Bathrooms! Several P-Traps removed from Clubhouse. Read the protocol for gate access. Stated that ALL contractors required to stop and sign in with authorization of owner on project—NO GATE PASSES are issued! The usual round of Thank You’s.
Peet thanked committee members; they spend hours and hours. Clf and Chrly are running in the election so will not be on EC and Frns sm all will chair the EC. Thanks to the board members for all the crap we are going through.
Board is currently dealing with the unfortunate situation being involved in the legislation concerning MRTA in realization to the association’s governing documents. Per our attorney’s suggestion, we are currently pursuing revitalization of the documents as a strategy for dealing with our lawsuits. We appreciate your cooperation in this matter. We will keep you appraised of information as it comes available. (Editor: This was a statement that was read.)
With that being said, that is our lawyer’s advice. It will not change anything, everything will remain just the way it was. It’s just a step we have to go through. So we won’t dwell on that. Or I won’t anyway.
CM Technology: Late coming back, couldn’t do anything. We will be setting a meeting date for the committee to get together. Lawsuits based on MRTA: my only comment is we all are a victim once again of Federal and State government. The State house are probably southern residents because since Yankees such as myself would not have even considered opening Pandora’s box of MRTA. Where I come from, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. My personal comment about MRTA and all the problems it has caused us and revitalization that Peet spoke of is looked forward to a solution to our the problems.
Nttr: First thing I want to say is that we were in receipt of some letters but due to the vulgarity and anonymous letters that were received I am not going to read them but if you want to see them, come on down, but I’m not going to read them. I have no more correspondence to report at this meeting. Bingo report balance $685.84. Last game Nov 28 because we had no caller. Will restart Jan 2
SS Treasurer: Financials are posted on website, we are under $40+K as of October and all is well.
FS: New Election Committee Chair: Candidate: Schlz, Mnc, Jnsn, Blkbrn, Park, TeeZul, (all 3 year term) Rite (2 year). This is the year to requalify for 55+ and present identity to office.
Candidates Forum will be Jan 14 at 9a in CH. Bb Kitey will host the event.
Board meeting Jan 21 @9am.
Communications: information regarding last 10 years of SLR history from flood to current S-bag: Then and Now scheduled for Jan 7 @ 9am in the CH. Host Suthrd. Coffee and donuts served.
Schulz has no report.
Jnsn has no report.
Brnd: Rulebook committee once suggested one change on the ballot with regard to carports. However, with other developing efforts within the association, the committee is not recommending any changes at this time. Next one might clear it up under New Business.
Based on the recommendations of counsel, members should be advised efforts to undergo revitalization are being pursued by an established organizational committee which consists of the following: Mnc, Schlz, Pray, Lanoosez, Suthrd, Booth (?) and Brnd. Schlz is Chair.
Motion on Stwd Elctc: Evaporator and condenser on walk in cooler at CH needs to be replaced to approve $3981.47 to Stwd Elctc from Schedule A Reserves.
Motion to Adjourn: Group murmur “What about Owner Comments? Ignored. Meeting adjourned
Owner Comments:
Owner: Disappointed that someone would send vulgar and anonymous letter to board. Expressed concern about the future of the resort. Re MRTA was a solution to multiple problems and you mentioned revitalization I want to know what the term revitalization means to us.
Brnd FS 720 will give you a total description of the process.
(Editor: At about this time, Mamager got up and walked out. Guess she has more urgent matters to attend to than to listen to what the owners are commenting about.)
Owner talked about SLR property supply and demand. We need a solution to these suits and never ending problems the only people that are winning are the lawyers.
Peet: I don’t know what to tell you. We were forced to do this. Nttr: Revitalization means the rules are clean and can go forward for 30 years.
Owner: the person who spoke at me behind my back please come up to the microphone and say your comment directly to me. This was a “time” shoutout.
(Editor: Time limitation is no longer a factor since the Owner's comments are not IN a meeting--the meeting was adjourned. This is just a post-meeting, off the record chat).
Owner about Elections: We need to start following the rules for our elections. The bylaws state that ballots are to remain in the box and not to be removed until Election Day--not removed and separated and gathered together with rubber bands and stuck in a file cabinet. Stated the reason does not excuse illegal handling of ballots i.e. “it takes too long” and offered to come help and tally the votes. Some cries of “no no no“ protests from rude people in the audience. Speaker again states that what SLohA is doing is illegal.
(Editor: Geez people if you are going to Booo an Owner to follow what is plainly written in the Bylaws, why not just BOOO your Bylaws?)
Board member comments: No heckling from audience members we can disagree and be civil.
Owner (prefaces his comments with the Bad Seed Theory in SLR aka The Element”: Is concerned about the 3 bid process in SLR-is it being followed?
Board becomes defensive and says it was an “emergency” to replace the cooler equipment and protests it couldn’t wait. Board says they get 3 bids when they can.
Lots of back and forth questions and qualifications to the bidding process. Owners says we are not getting the best value for money by bypassing the bidding process. Documents state we must utilize a 3 party bidding process. Discussion and misunderstanding on Tennis courts which had 3 bids. We should be anticipating things that are going bad instead of shovel to put out fires. Asked about screenroom back wall.
Board said they would be getting 3 bids on the back wall.
Owner: With 3 bids you can go back to your preferred bidder and negotiate a better price.
Owner: Water—ours is turned off when we’re gone; why do we get a statement saying that we used 1000 gallons.
Nttr gives non-responsive comment that they have to send statements. Owner repeats question. Nttr than says the statement should trigger a question to office. Board member says if you want a zero usage you have to turn it off at the meter not at the stump.
Owner: AC system was in disarray a few years ago and Stwd has corrected problems. They do Walmart’s work and I agree with the board. We can go low bidder and get shoddy product again.
Owner: Did we finally get the water meter usage problem fixed we used to suck in 100’s of thousands of gallons.
Peet says we are close on it and the intrusion problem is “coming good”.
(Editor: After people dispersed, I approach Nttr, along with another Owner, and asked to see the vulgar and anonymous letters referred to by Nttr. We were told that she didn’t have them with her; they were in the file cabinet. I asked her to tell me when I could see them. She agreed to call me. The other owner said he could go to the office and Melonknee could show them to him. She was reluctant to do this but agreed. Will follow up after I see the letters.)
BOD Meeting Dec 17, 2014
Manager’s report (to be published separately) Somebody is removing soap from the Bathrooms! Several P-Traps removed from Clubhouse. Read the protocol for gate access. Stated that ALL contractors required to stop and sign in with authorization of owner on project—NO GATE PASSES are issued! The usual round of Thank You’s.
Peet thanked committee members; they spend hours and hours. Clf and Chrly are running in the election so will not be on EC and Frns sm all will chair the EC. Thanks to the board members for all the crap we are going through.
Board is currently dealing with the unfortunate situation being involved in the legislation concerning MRTA in realization to the association’s governing documents. Per our attorney’s suggestion, we are currently pursuing revitalization of the documents as a strategy for dealing with our lawsuits. We appreciate your cooperation in this matter. We will keep you appraised of information as it comes available. (Editor: This was a statement that was read.)
With that being said, that is our lawyer’s advice. It will not change anything, everything will remain just the way it was. It’s just a step we have to go through. So we won’t dwell on that. Or I won’t anyway.
CM Technology: Late coming back, couldn’t do anything. We will be setting a meeting date for the committee to get together. Lawsuits based on MRTA: my only comment is we all are a victim once again of Federal and State government. The State house are probably southern residents because since Yankees such as myself would not have even considered opening Pandora’s box of MRTA. Where I come from, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. My personal comment about MRTA and all the problems it has caused us and revitalization that Peet spoke of is looked forward to a solution to our the problems.
Nttr: First thing I want to say is that we were in receipt of some letters but due to the vulgarity and anonymous letters that were received I am not going to read them but if you want to see them, come on down, but I’m not going to read them. I have no more correspondence to report at this meeting. Bingo report balance $685.84. Last game Nov 28 because we had no caller. Will restart Jan 2
SS Treasurer: Financials are posted on website, we are under $40+K as of October and all is well.
FS: New Election Committee Chair: Candidate: Schlz, Mnc, Jnsn, Blkbrn, Park, TeeZul, (all 3 year term) Rite (2 year). This is the year to requalify for 55+ and present identity to office.
Candidates Forum will be Jan 14 at 9a in CH. Bb Kitey will host the event.
Board meeting Jan 21 @9am.
Communications: information regarding last 10 years of SLR history from flood to current S-bag: Then and Now scheduled for Jan 7 @ 9am in the CH. Host Suthrd. Coffee and donuts served.
Schulz has no report.
Jnsn has no report.
Brnd: Rulebook committee once suggested one change on the ballot with regard to carports. However, with other developing efforts within the association, the committee is not recommending any changes at this time. Next one might clear it up under New Business.
Based on the recommendations of counsel, members should be advised efforts to undergo revitalization are being pursued by an established organizational committee which consists of the following: Mnc, Schlz, Pray, Lanoosez, Suthrd, Booth (?) and Brnd. Schlz is Chair.
Motion on Stwd Elctc: Evaporator and condenser on walk in cooler at CH needs to be replaced to approve $3981.47 to Stwd Elctc from Schedule A Reserves.
Motion to Adjourn: Group murmur “What about Owner Comments? Ignored. Meeting adjourned
Owner Comments:
Owner: Disappointed that someone would send vulgar and anonymous letter to board. Expressed concern about the future of the resort. Re MRTA was a solution to multiple problems and you mentioned revitalization I want to know what the term revitalization means to us.
Brnd FS 720 will give you a total description of the process.
(Editor: At about this time, Mamager got up and walked out. Guess she has more urgent matters to attend to than to listen to what the owners are commenting about.)
Owner talked about SLR property supply and demand. We need a solution to these suits and never ending problems the only people that are winning are the lawyers.
Peet: I don’t know what to tell you. We were forced to do this. Nttr: Revitalization means the rules are clean and can go forward for 30 years.
Owner: the person who spoke at me behind my back please come up to the microphone and say your comment directly to me. This was a “time” shoutout.
(Editor: Time limitation is no longer a factor since the Owner's comments are not IN a meeting--the meeting was adjourned. This is just a post-meeting, off the record chat).
Owner about Elections: We need to start following the rules for our elections. The bylaws state that ballots are to remain in the box and not to be removed until Election Day--not removed and separated and gathered together with rubber bands and stuck in a file cabinet. Stated the reason does not excuse illegal handling of ballots i.e. “it takes too long” and offered to come help and tally the votes. Some cries of “no no no“ protests from rude people in the audience. Speaker again states that what SLohA is doing is illegal.
(Editor: Geez people if you are going to Booo an Owner to follow what is plainly written in the Bylaws, why not just BOOO your Bylaws?)
Board member comments: No heckling from audience members we can disagree and be civil.
Owner (prefaces his comments with the Bad Seed Theory in SLR aka The Element”: Is concerned about the 3 bid process in SLR-is it being followed?
Board becomes defensive and says it was an “emergency” to replace the cooler equipment and protests it couldn’t wait. Board says they get 3 bids when they can.
Lots of back and forth questions and qualifications to the bidding process. Owners says we are not getting the best value for money by bypassing the bidding process. Documents state we must utilize a 3 party bidding process. Discussion and misunderstanding on Tennis courts which had 3 bids. We should be anticipating things that are going bad instead of shovel to put out fires. Asked about screenroom back wall.
Board said they would be getting 3 bids on the back wall.
Owner: With 3 bids you can go back to your preferred bidder and negotiate a better price.
Owner: Water—ours is turned off when we’re gone; why do we get a statement saying that we used 1000 gallons.
Nttr gives non-responsive comment that they have to send statements. Owner repeats question. Nttr than says the statement should trigger a question to office. Board member says if you want a zero usage you have to turn it off at the meter not at the stump.
Owner: AC system was in disarray a few years ago and Stwd has corrected problems. They do Walmart’s work and I agree with the board. We can go low bidder and get shoddy product again.
Owner: Did we finally get the water meter usage problem fixed we used to suck in 100’s of thousands of gallons.
Peet says we are close on it and the intrusion problem is “coming good”.
(Editor: After people dispersed, I approach Nttr, along with another Owner, and asked to see the vulgar and anonymous letters referred to by Nttr. We were told that she didn’t have them with her; they were in the file cabinet. I asked her to tell me when I could see them. She agreed to call me. The other owner said he could go to the office and Melonknee could show them to him. She was reluctant to do this but agreed. Will follow up after I see the letters.)