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Post by Admin on Apr 24, 2015 17:00:03 GMT -5
Posted on CHUG:
It's nice to see some committees in SLR and maybe they actually WILL be Standing Committees versus the Momentary Committees of the past. But a few questions crossed my mind.
First, was there ever an announcement to the general membership inviting people to participate on a committee? (I don't recall one.) Am totally perplexed by who is chairing and serving on the Rulebook and Election committees--the listing is a jumble. And doesn't it seem a bit odd that committee compositions are so heavily represented by husband/wife owner duos? Why is Tummy Blkbrn not listed as the Bingo Committee Board Oversight person... and Who is the Technology Committee: Owner? And why are BOD members Peet Brdun and Rgr Blingz not on any committee while some directors are on multiple committees?
Bb stab on the Welcoming Committee-well he IS a chatty sort! But why is he and D Brnd not on the Technology Committee?
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Post by gusto on Apr 24, 2015 22:31:48 GMT -5
SLohA is going to have a "Rules Committee" ! Why I ask? By what authority can our RV Park Rules Committee make or change rules? I thought we were in the process of a Revitalization, depending on what the Judge Rules about the e-legal changes made in 1986.
I think many residents in S-bag are in for a big surprise, when the cards are finally laid on the table.
We will then need a: "Holy-Moly My Pants Caught Fire"-- Ad Hoc Committee.
Please read SLohA Lawyers, "Exhibit D" presented to the Court. It states some very interesting information from the 1986 BOD's Meetings.
Gusto...
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Post by Admin on Apr 25, 2015 7:00:25 GMT -5
gusto posted:
Good point--I missed this "question" when I posted! Of course, there is no Authority for the board to enforce any rules it wishes to make. But they are free to meet and imagine and pretend that rules need to be on its books. Rules can be considered guidelines for the Welcoming Committee to present to noobies outlining the desired conformance behavior that this group wishes to communicate.
It might be worth reflecting that, with the announcement of revitalization in Dec 2014 at the height of SLR's vacation season, SLR did not immediately descend into a lawless place of rampant rule-breaking! In fact, there is NO difference in behavior between the existence or non-existence of rules. People are governed by their OWN rules of conduct UNLESS there is a meaningful penalty to do otherwise--and that condition never existed in S-bag.
On a side note, the revitalization being pursued will proceed independently of the court's decision regarding validity of the Amendments. The initial eligibility of the Association to revitalize will be dependent only on its statutory merit--not on the validity of the underlying documents submitted with the Revite application. That is not the job of the DEO. (I will separately post what the DEO can and can't do.)
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Post by Alaska HEMI R/T Jm Admin. on Apr 25, 2015 7:08:38 GMT -5
Change caption to read "Rules Committee? We don't need no stinking Rules Committee" ! LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE ! Attachment Deleted |
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Post by Admin on Apr 25, 2015 16:03:01 GMT -5
It gets better!  Non-registered Guests: Sign in with "saddleviewer" and password "123abc" to enlarge view or download Attachment DeletedThis is a much better layout and you can easily tell who is on what committee. Thanks to whoever is paying attention. Perhaps the Board is establishing Architectural Committees to review requests for new trees and benches and such on common property--that would be a positive thing to have in here rather than the board winging these kinds of requests in a meeting. This committee will have nothing to do with private property. SLohA does not have any authority to pass any judgement or enforcement on architectural elements on private property in S-bag. (It could give an opinion.) This was demonstrated as a result of the disastrous lawsuit against 66SS. This is because the (expired) Covenants did not contain such authority and if revitalized, they will still not contain such authority. It can only be added to the Covenants with 100% agreement by all parties to any contract drawn or revitalized in the future. |
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Post by Dick Tracy on Apr 25, 2015 20:37:15 GMT -5
Question ? How does one volunteer to be a involved Committee Member? Does SLR have a SOP in place for Committee Appointments. I see husband and wife teams on SLR Committees, 2 committee members from the same household, well two heads are better then one, I guess.
Any way, great to see Committees back in our Community !
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Post by gusto on Aug 31, 2015 19:24:14 GMT -5
July 14 Board Meeting Minutes:
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Vice President Jade Rite suggested the formation of a committee to oversee new units coming into the resort.Tom Booth, Brc Blch and Clyde Rite would be the three full time residents on the Architectural Committee. They would be involved in the planning St age of the committee to set guidelines for owners to follow.
Jade made the following motion. Whereas: There is a need for a committee to be formed to oversee the preparation, delivery and setup of every new unit arriving in S-bag Lake Resort. Therefore, I, Jade Rite, move that an Architectural committee of 3 full time residents be formed to oversee all of the installation procedures of a new home from planning to set-up, start to finish." Tummy Blkbrn seconded.
In discussion following the motion, D Brnd suggested two alternate committee members might be added to the Architectural Committee. D asked for volunteers from the audience and Ed Clerk and Chrls persons offered to serve. leery listerine suggested that a board member serve as chairperson for the Architectural Committee and serve as a liaison with SLR management. Jade agreed to serve as that chairperson/liason representative. Jade amended her motion for 6 fulltime residents on the Architectural Committee, adding Ed Clerk and Chrls persons as alternates and Jade Rite as Chairperson. Chrls Schlz seconded the amended motion. It passed unanimously.(end quote)
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Boy-O-Boy, Someone Please Help.... What is this passed motion for a "Architectural Committee" in SLR.
Is this Architectural Committee by Executive Order? I was under the impression Polk County was the one making the call on acceptable Units and placement of Units in SLR.
"What are next weeks Rules"?
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Post by gusto on Sept 18, 2015 20:55:26 GMT -5
Our Leaders, just do not seem to get it, even after a Law Suit on the matter. Today we had a new unit delivered by Custom Homes on Beaverkill, near the Stonefly intersection. Jade Rite (Architectural Committee Spokesperson) asked the Salesman (Custom Homes) which end is the porch going to be on.... Are you kidding me, no I am Not.
Plus the Architectural Committee had Chap (the manager) tell the new owners that the shed (which came with the property) that it was 10.5 inches from the property line and thus must be moved 1.5 inches, as to make it 12 inches from the prop line. How in the world can Chap eyeball a point on line with out setting up a transit on a property corner and turning some angles? Well, as it turns out the new residents are going to get a new shed anyway. But still, I do not believe Chap has any skills in surveying property.
Plus, the good part, a tree on the Beaverkill Owners property was being trimmed by Big Daddy Installers, and they were told to stop trimming said tree by Chap (manager). Chap did not think Big Daddy Installers were doing the trimming in a safe manner. Chap insisted on Jhn (maintenance dept) go get the bucket truck from the maint. yard and complete the tree trimming. Which cost the Custom Homes installer an extra 45 minute charge to install the Custom Homes Unit. Why in the world is Chap giving orders about trimming a tree on private property? That would make SLohA , Jhn, and Chap Liable for any damages or personal injuries on the job site.
If my dumb butt, wants to put a ladder on a tree limb on my private property, then cut the limb off and my dumb butt, the ladder and the tree limb all fall to the ground, Chap is not responsible for my dumb action. He just does not have that power or authority on my private property. What do you say ?
Our Leaders just have to get involved, even when the SLR Property Owner has the correct approved Permits from Polk County.
Will our BOD's and Managements Present Behavior of Harassment Ever Stop?
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Post by GTO on Sept 19, 2015 3:35:25 GMT -5
Boy, it sure looks like our BODs & Management need to enroll in a 101 Management Class on the proper management skills needed to be informed Leaders in a Not For Profit Volunteer Organization like SLR is at the present. It is apparent our Leaders have a lack of Common Sense.
They are shutting down SLR Owners involvement in any decision making. The Good Old Boys Back-Door Politics, leaving the Residents out of the Loop. The Board spends our money on Legal Advice, then they disregards the advice from the Attorneys.
I personally believe most of our SLR Leaders are lost at the present time !
Just my 2 cent !
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2015 15:35:38 GMT -5
tortious interference
noun: encouraging a breach, infringing on another's agreement, interfering with contract, interfering with contractual commitments, interfering with contractual obligation, interfering with contractual rights, meddling with business activities, obstruction, work against another's contractual relationship, wrongful interference with business relationships, wrongful interference with contractual relationships
Owners must educate themselves about the absence of authority for MANBOD to say squat about siting their home or auxillary structures. There are NO RULES--NO COVENANTS and even if there were Covenants, there is no architectural authority over Owner's private property. If Owners wish to believe otherwise, they can assume the risk and pay the price. MANBOD will go too far one of these days and cost an owner or contractor money and we will have to pay to defend the Association against this kind of activity. In the long run, the ASSOCIATION will be named in the lawsuit and we ALL pay for ignorance and complacency.
I guess they did not learn their lesson with the pounding they got due to the interference with 66SS.
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Post by Admin on Sept 30, 2016 6:59:40 GMT -5
Update on Committees: It looks like there are only two committees in existence: the Welcoming Committee comprised of two owners and a committee in formation to refurbish the entrance sign on SR60.
There is no Architectural Committee, there is no Rules and Regulations Committee, there is no Fines Committee. None of these groups has any authority under the pending revitalized CCR's. (That is understandable since the pending revitalized documents were written for a transient campground.) These committees can certainly exist and be recognized in the minds of some people, but they have no teeth or lawful standing to "control" or enforce anything. They can only communicate a preference for conduct and owners are free to accept or decline any preferences.
I noted that SLR has added "4-way stop" to the stop signs at SBT intersections. This attempt to regulate traffic behavior is futile and a continuing waste of money. The roads are private and behavior on them is unregulated. Regulation is too expensive, as D Brnd demonstrated to all last year.
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Post by Admin on Oct 2, 2016 5:55:21 GMT -5
Admin posted:
I stand corrected by a discerning reader. BINGO is a Standing Committee oversighted by a Board Director who is responsible for conducting the activity in compliance with FL Gambling Statutes. (BINGO is not a CLUB!)
@reader: Thanks for the input!
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