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Post by Admin on Jun 8, 2015 12:41:23 GMT -5
The Appeal has been filed. It is my understanding that there is one appeal remaining after this one but it would be one that would probably require legal representation. PLEASE take at look at the Price Tag on this Appeal !!! $630 !!! and head for the DONATE Button! SNAP has absorbed this cost and its coffers are dependent upon Owners who benefit from its service for continued financial ability to intervene....intervene in measures such as this Land Takeover of our Beach and other recreational properties by parties unconcerned with Owners' property rights and welfare of Saddlebaggers and real estate values of their homes.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Jun 9, 2015 2:06:51 GMT -5
How does the Appeal Process work? Will it be a closed door hearing? Thanks for any information...
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Post by Admin on Jun 9, 2015 7:55:58 GMT -5
Cross Posted from Board Minutes:
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Post by eastpolk on Jun 10, 2015 12:39:08 GMT -5
After viewing the meeting video it hit me....the gentleman from Lake Aurora Camp, Stv Bornemann wants the change. Of course he does, he is putting up a huge tower for Bb at the camp that is visible from 60 and will probably get free internet at his home just South of the camp!!!
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Post by Admin on Jun 10, 2015 13:23:05 GMT -5
eastpolk posted:
Yes, that's the one!
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Post by eastpolk on Jun 10, 2015 13:37:16 GMT -5
I am sure the powers that be over at Lake Aurora have no idea what they are getting in bed with. Goes against everything they stand for.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Jun 10, 2015 16:32:40 GMT -5
How many KCnet Towers are erected through out Polk Co., without a Engineers Study or Polk Co. Permit? I do not think SLR is so unique, we have the only erected towers with out going through the proper procedures.
Plus SLR leader keeps making the statement, that SLohA "owns" the Towers. They were Donated like trees,floor tile and labor.
If we indeed own the Towers, then I suggest KCNetwork's Corporation pay a premium price to SLohA, to have KCNetworks Commercial Antennas mounted on the SLohA Towers. We can Keep it Simple, agree to terms on a hand-shake. No Need For Anything on Paper, We Will Just Wing-It! Like Bobs Kay c Way !
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Post by eastpolk on Jun 11, 2015 16:15:17 GMT -5
Ah Dick Tracy, YES. The main feed for Kay c Net is on S-bag property and without it, boom. If he has 1500 customers at $45 per month = $67,500 per month. Now S-bag should demand at least 45% ($30,375) for the use of all of the towers "owned" by the park. That should not be out of the question since the going rate for commercial tower space, per tower is around $5-8k per month per tower.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Jun 11, 2015 19:33:27 GMT -5
SLohA in a non profit organization, so Bb's KCNet could just Donate the money. You know like the donated trees, tile & of course Towers. I agree $30,000 is a good amount to start with, as the Commercial Communication Internet Corp., goes County wide, then State & the final goal is Nation wide, the cost would also increase.
We should as good citizens of this Great Country, The USA, be willing to share the wealth. That would be the Christian Way.
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Post by Admin on Jul 9, 2015 12:14:27 GMT -5
Gary skeeverse has requested that his letter to the Board be posted on this Forum. This letter has also been sent to CHUG Forum to be posted.
Additionally, an OPEN MEMBER Meeting will be held to discuss this letter and other concerns on Monday July 13th at 11 am immediately following KK at the Clubhouse.
Letter was hand-delivered and certified.
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Post by sassy on Jul 9, 2015 16:36:54 GMT -5
I am of the belief that NO matters of any importance should be taken up during the months when there is the least amount of residents here to discuss the matter. We fell for this last summer when notified about our garbage stump and then realized what a hoax it was. ALL SLR owners should have a say in any matters concerning our park. The meeting scheduled for Monday should be postponed until at least Oct. 15th. Then you would get a true feeling how people feel.
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Post by jimherbst on Jul 9, 2015 21:39:13 GMT -5
I have to take some issue with your statement, Dick. Unless SLohA is a 501c(3) organization -which I doubt - it is allowed to earn revenue from "enterprises", without jeopardizing its non-profit status. Look at non-profit organizations like Goodwill Industries, for example. Also, with respect to tax liability remember that an organization, whether not-profit or for-profit, owes taxes on profits, not revenues. I contend that, as long as all revenue is offset by expenses, there is no income tax liability. Finally, if there is still discomfort with the precedent of KCNET renting our towers for a cash payment, I suggest an alternative. In return for allowing KCNET to use our towers, we could demand that KCNET provide FREE internet to all residents of S-bag. After all, I am given to understand that KCNET's S-bag subscribers represent less than 25% of its total current customer base. Moreover, KCNET's announced plans make it clear that it wants to expand its business to all of Polk County. Giving S-bag free internet would go a long way to heal the divisive controversy at a cost that KCNET can certainly afford.
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Post by Admin on Jul 10, 2015 7:29:52 GMT -5
I am of the belief that NO matters of any importance should be taken up during the months when there is the least amount of residents here to discuss the matter. We fell for this last summer when notified about our garbage stump and then realized what a hoax it was. ALL SLR owners should have a say in any matters concerning our park. The meeting scheduled for Monday should be postponed until at least Oct. 15th. Then you would get a true feeling how people feel. Agree with most everything you said here. It is a pattern that Management rolls into high gear when the snowbirds leave--the full time residents are the ones who suffer all the inconvenience and notice all the changes being made out of the view of the absentee owners. This started in 2011 with the removed pool fencing (unnecessary and never discussed with owners and the termination of Lorenzo) and it has continued since. The Board subsequently admitted, at a Board meeting, that it was making decisions by email. They recently tried to "fix" the problem of making decisions in the summer without a meeting and the "fix" is NOT in accordance with the not-for-profit corporation statute nor state "open meeting laws". The law is made to ensure to owners that they are fully appraised of everything that is being done to the property in their absence and, even though the infrastructure exists to rapidly and completely communicate business, we are still putting pushpins on colorful paper on corkboard. The meeting you referred to above is the first of what is envisioned as a recurring group meeting called the "Paul Harvey Club". The goal of this group will be a regular assembly of owners who have questions and concerns that can be "answered and aired" and in the absence of an answer, Owners can choose to put concerns/questions in writing to the Board. This July 13th meeting is to discuss the Appeal to the Land Use Modification and the letter to the Board asking for postponement until Owners return. The hope is that the proposed land change can be placed on the Ballot for fully-informed Owners to vote on.
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Post by Admin on Jul 13, 2015 12:51:20 GMT -5
The "courtesy letters" have been mailed. Attachment DeletedThe signs were put up around noon today. Note that the previous location of the original Public Hearing is no longer suitable. This would be the location at the Clubhouse parking lot where everyone gathers daily for post office, clubhouse activities, Swimming, billiards etc. Attachment DeletedThat sign has now been relegated to the distant Annex parking lot where no one is likely to see it. There is also no sign on SR60 as there was in the initial public hearing.
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