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Post by Anon on Oct 16, 2013 12:34:50 GMT -5
October 15, 2013
Hello All, I just notice a posting on the Bulletin Board, BOD has scheduled a BOD Meeting for 10/16/13. It is also on Chug's site and it was posted today, Tuesday the 15th. I am upset because I had asked about a BOD meeting for Oct a little while back. I can not go to the meeting, I have eye surgery in the morning. The Agenda has Kn Report: (1)Discuss collections attorney (2) Discuss SLohA Covenants and Attorney's recommendations..... I hope some one will please go and take notes.... Thanks, Cat Lick ____________________________________________
Posted one day prior to meeting: Board_Report Date: 10/15/2013
Approve minutes from closed meeting on 09-04-2013
KL President's Report
· Discuss collections attorney
· Discuss SLohA Covenants and attorney's recommendations
PB Vice President's Report
· Sewer main and lateral repairs
· Motion to pay for sewer lateral repair at 41 S-bag Trail
· Motion to pay for sewer lateral camera work
AK Secretary's Report
· Board correspondence
SS Treasurer's Report
· August financials available
· Audit year ending 03-31-2013 also available (reminder)
DB
· Annex/site work update
· Motion to approve payment of required transformer upgrade
· Motion to approve payment to add annex to Business Owner's Insurance policy
· Discuss naming of new annex building
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Post by BagLady on Oct 16, 2013 12:51:12 GMT -5
Well, they sure better tell the "Collections attorney" about the status of covenants. If I were an attorney, I would pass on this gig!
And BTW, why does SLohA need a "Collections Attorney" to do what Toneesha has been doing well for several years? We have Floyd/Spanyers etc for liens/foreclosures.
Is this yet another way to spend SLohA $?
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Post by Frog on Oct 16, 2013 14:38:16 GMT -5
At todays BOD Meeting someone suggested it maybe cheaper to purchase the house in question, instead of paying lawyer fees. You can buy ours also...
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Post by BagLady on Oct 16, 2013 14:58:10 GMT -5
Who Hoooo!
Oh buy my house, pretty please!
That would certainly put out the brushfire...but the tinder will remain.
As long as the legitimate authority of the HOA to act is in question, there will be legal cH allenges. I will go away, but the problem will not.
BTW, the price is $68,900 PLUS ALL of my legal fees to date. Buyer pays all closing costs. I'll donate an update to my Title Search and Attorney Opinion. Guaranteed I will not pursue damages. I will leave.
A Great Deal!
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Post by Admin on Oct 18, 2013 11:43:59 GMT -5
Cross Post from AnonNews
October 18, 2013
Actually, cat lick, there was no agenda posted in the time frame allotted for giving notice of the 10/16/13 meeting that I saw, however, all board meeting dates have been posted at the post office for quite awhile; these dates are all listed on the left side at the top of the bulletin board that is on the post office wall and go into 2014.
You may want to take note of these dates for upcoming meetings, just in case they (again) fail to post an agenda whereby giving notice for upcoming meeting.
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Post by Anon on Oct 18, 2013 21:06:14 GMT -5
the reason for the "collections attorney" I believe is to scare people into paying their HOA dues when/if they get wind that their property's CC & R's are expired
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Post by Admin on Oct 19, 2013 8:29:15 GMT -5
Cross Post from AnonNews
Thanks, I saw that yearly 2013/2014 Meeting Notice after the meeting. They had it right. I just never notice, it would be good if copies are available. A couple of my friends also, did not know about the Meeting. Live & Learn
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Post by Admin on Oct 19, 2013 8:34:03 GMT -5
What would be REALLY good is if MANBOD actually encouraged owners to attend meetings by publicizing meetings on CHUG, on the Club Center White Announcement Board and even...<breathless gasp of wonderment> by PhoneVite!
Imagine that, an SLR world where your monthly government meetings had the same status as a temporary swimming pool closure!
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Post by Anon on Oct 21, 2013 8:14:49 GMT -5
what else was said at this meeting w/regard to the latest attorney opinion regarding the CC & R's? this is what they said they would discuss...
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Post by Anonymous on Oct 21, 2013 13:34:03 GMT -5
What was discussed at this recent meeting w/regard to the attorney opinion they supposedly sought?
Why do they have to motion to pay contractors for the work they already did on the sewer repairs, camera work, transformer upgrade and adding the new annex onto the insurance policy?
The bills are supposed to get paid if the work was done, so why is something like paying these bills even an issue to be voted on by the bored? If the contractors did the work, why aren't they just issued a check?
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Post by Admin on Oct 21, 2013 19:18:56 GMT -5
Yeah that would be like the House and Senate going into session to agree to pay the monthly SSI checks! Maybe BOD is modelling its behavior on the recent congressional debacle. haha!
If the project, estimated expenditure, the vendor has already been approved, then the payment after completion of what has already been approved doesn't have to be voted on. Unless there is an issue with the vendor not performing according to specs or shoddy workmanship; then it would be reasonable to vote to withhold payment.
What if BOD voted not to pay after everything was previously approved and satisfactorily completed? Maybe the vendor would put a contractor's lien and forcibly foreclose on our community property.
When someone finds about the Mystery Collections Attorney, please post.
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Post by Anonymous on Oct 21, 2013 20:42:16 GMT -5
nothing up at the p.o. yet on last Wed's mtg. or mange's rept.; they got to figger out how to word it so it's all wonderful and fluffy and nothing at all is wrong, blah, blah, blah...
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Post by BagLady on Oct 22, 2013 0:32:40 GMT -5
From August Minutes CJ motioned to accept The SLR Garden Club's donation of gazebo, bench, and minor landscaping, and to approve the funds to cover the cost of installing a brick paver walkway and patio by D & D K K for improvement of lot 29 S-bag Trail. AR seconded. Motion passed unanimously
So, this was the birth of the #29 SBT "improvement". While it might be attractive, it is illegal according to the Covenants AND it is illegal according to the recorded Deed restrictions. First, any change in the use of common property must be approved by 3/4 affirmative vote of the owners. BOD's job is to repair and replace. It is not up to BOD to create new structures on common property unless property owners agree. Hellooooo...has anyone on MANBOD read the Declaration? (It is totally irrelevant if funds were donated or not, or if they were funded from Operating or Reserves or cookie sales. The improvement was built illegally. The BOD's action was not in accordance with Covenants which state that lots can be released from restrictions with the consent of 3/4 affirmative vote of the owners of each plat.) However...it gets worse. This BOD action was directly in violation of the deed restrictions accepted by SLohA when Polk County deeded the two drainage lots back to SLohA. It reserved these lots as perpetual drainage easements and prohibited any structure, temporary or permanent, to be constructed on the lots. Was this property alteration given a permit? There was no Notice of Commencement recorded. polkctydeedl29pg1.pdf (80.86 KB) Helloooo...has anyone read the County Deed of Conveyance? The Polk County Deed trumps the Covenants. In any case, this is a real s****up. Will MANBOD ever change the mailing address on this property with the Property Appraiser?; It is still addressed to SLohA in New Port Richey
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Post by Hawkeye on Oct 22, 2013 9:52:54 GMT -5
Its too bad there isn't any way of prosecuting these people for doing things like this .
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Post by wee willy on Oct 22, 2013 17:45:38 GMT -5
Did you know, that you don't have to pay association fees.
If you don't a lein will be placed on your property, but they cannot forclose under homestead law.So you can live here at no cost until you sell and enjoy all the ammenities
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2013 18:31:46 GMT -5
Well, there's a few more little details goin' on here Wee Willy! Here is an exerpt from a lawyer website on the subject:
You are correct that Florida Homestead provides broad protection against creditors--but NOT against non-payment of HOA assessments!
So keep those fees flyin'!
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Post by Anonymous on Oct 23, 2013 10:20:48 GMT -5
we willie's comments=NONSENSE, even if your property is expired and you don't pay fees, they'll have a collections attorney on your ass fast!
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Post by CUT THE CRAP on Oct 23, 2013 10:29:03 GMT -5
WE WILLIE needs to engage his brain before typing and because he hasn't, too many ridiculous, idiotic and stupid comments made have only served to confuse readers and distort our true messages we are trying to put out to the community.
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Post by Anonymous on Oct 23, 2013 10:35:47 GMT -5
to the one calling his/herself WeWillie: just be quiet and read; let the rest of us with brains put out our important messages; this community needs to be told the truth and we are trying to do that by putting out FACTUAL information.
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Post by BagLady on Oct 23, 2013 19:02:17 GMT -5
While WeeWillie's submission was partially right, it did bring up an opportunity to correct a misunderstanding held by many folks.
I am sure with the flogging that WeeWillie is getting from the above guests, he/she will do a bit more homework before posting a broad generalization.
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