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Post by BagLady on Jan 16, 2014 21:16:50 GMT -5
This was discussed with attorney today. There may be much more discussion ahead on this subject of which I will not be a party to. I have enough on my plate.
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Post by BagLady on Jan 17, 2014 12:41:20 GMT -5
You are correct. SLohA cannot, by virtue of its incorporation under FS617 as a not-for profit corporation, distribute income or revenue to other members except under very strict conditions, which SLohA does not meet. SLohA is proposing to collect revenue from its members through an assessment and distribute it to another member, BS. Department of State is not gonna like it.
The sections are:
617.01401 Definitions(7) “Distribution” means the payment of a dividend or any part of the income or profit of a corporation to its members, directors, or officers. 617.0505 Distributions; exceptions. —Except as authorized in s. 617.1302, a corporation may not make distributions to its members, directors, or officers. (SLohA does not qualify as exemption under 617.0505(5) or the above section).
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Post by laughing on Mar 6, 2014 16:32:09 GMT -5
Having a good belly laugh right now. Apparently DB is going to shut down this website... It's called the World Wide Web for a reason and apparently you have forgotten about Free Speech.....Have you NOT read the Bill of Rights either?? Hey DB - your stupid is showing and a good portion of SLR owners saw it.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Jun 20, 2014 23:00:59 GMT -5
This was stated to the members at June 11ths. BOD Meeting:
Jms & Jd Ath -- 16 Royal Coachman. Suit against SLohA for breach of the Declaration of Covenants by failing to enforce restriction against commercial activities on the lot owned by Mr. Robber Stb. [His company [outside of SLR] provides internet service to the SLohA office and service is available to SLR owners]. It should be noted bids were requested from other commercial providers [to include Brighthouse], "but all declined to bid on a contract to provide internet services]."
No Bids Received!!!
Does this set in motion a BOD's Mandated Resort Wide Internet provided by KCN & Bb St aib. Our Board ( Kn Lew is ) has stated we do not need your Vote or Permission to mandate Resort Wide Internet for all Owner/Residents. He made that comment back in 2013. So it is any ones guess, what this BODs & Management Co. maybe cooking up, behind closed doors. My opinion is they are going for Door #3, one more time.
Why would they note : Bids were requested from other commercial providers, but all declined to Bid on a contract to provide internet services.
But look here, we have a provider already in SLR, lets secure a contract will KCN. Meeting Adjoined.. [Midnight]
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Post by BagLady on Jun 21, 2014 1:11:51 GMT -5
Not true. 1. There is no lawsuit yet. 2. The breach is for commercial activity conducted within S-bag contrary to global deed restriction---not just Mr. Stb's lot.
The activities are being conducted from 5 parcels; only one of them is Mr. Stb's. The remaining 4 parcels are common properties owned by 787 people. Those 787 people accepted restrictions and were given certain assurances related to parcel usage on their deeds; one of those restrictions was "no commercial activity". The BOD is responsible for upholding the provisions of the governing documents and they are failing their fiduciary duty to owners by their continuing breach of this covenant. KCN is registered to do business from an address outside of S-bag. This is a formality and to imply that the business address "protects" involved parties is a lame attempt to avoid accountability for the blatant conduct of commercial activity inside SLR. Business conduct is evidenced by the presence of 5 tall towers and anchoring equipment on SLR common property, secured and exclusive placement of KCN equipment inside common buildings, self-promotion and advertising on the "official SLohA website" and at BOD meetings, 1500+ internet subscribers, frequent equipment deliveries and by the 5 gate passes issued to contractors. For starters.
Additionally, most contractors are non residents and non-visitors; they are an unknown presence in SLR here for the sole purpose of employment by KCN to perform tasks related to his internet business. They are a potential security risk to the owners. Gate cards record all entries of these contractors on a computer and that is a protected record. Neighbors can attest to the constant activity on Grayhackle and the many vehicles parked on the street servicing KCN's business.
What point is BOD making when it protests that the ISP doing business illegally from within SLR and upon SLR common property provides services, for fee, to individuals and SLohA? Why? Who asked BOD to do that? Why did they place a newspaper ad soliciting bids immediately after the snowbirds returned north (1st week May)? Why were bids directed to Stmb Ixx Inc employees? Why was this action and expense not discussed in a Board meeting? I understood that BOD was "elected" (most were NOT elected--most were appointed and/or passively elected following an appointment) to represent the owners! Voters said No twice to Internet Extortion in S-bag. Voters paid for a SECOND ballot at a cost of thousands of dollars due to BOD's rush to get an assessment, contrary to expensive attorney's advice funded by owners. No one requested the BOD to spend SLR time and resources on one internet service provider let alone competitive bidders.
Following the second ballot defeat, BOD continued it's efforts to force internet down the throats of owners and solicited outsiders to come in and breach our covenants! BOD's unsanctioned and undisclosed solicitation of a discretionary information service available to all on the free market adds insult to injury: BOD not only IGNORES our Covenants in favor of KCN and its investors but invites others to join in profits that might be gained from setting up their business in S-bag. It did so in secret and BOD spent your money.
One cannot help but ask "Why is BOD and so preoccupied with protecting and securing revenue for KCN on the backs of Owners?" The answer is unknown at this time, but eventually, MANBOD's motives will be revealed.
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Post by Facts on Jun 21, 2014 12:17:45 GMT -5
Not true. 1. There is no lawsuit yet. 2. The breach is for commercial activity conducted within S-bag contrary to global deed restriction---not just Mr. Stb's lot. The activities are being conducted from 5 parcels; only one of them is Mr. Stb's. The remaining 4 parcels are common properties owned by 787 people. Those 787 people accepted restrictions and were given certain assurances related to parcel usage on their deeds; one of those restrictions was "no commercial activity". The BOD is responsible for upholding the provisions of the governing documents and they are failing their fiduciary duty to owners by their continuing breach of this covenant. KCN is registered to do business from an address outside of S-bag. This is a formality and to imply that the business address "protects" involved parties is a lame attempt to avoid accountability for the blatant conduct of commercial activity inside SLR. Business conduct is evidenced by the presence of 5 tall towers and anchoring equipment on SLR common property, secured and exclusive placement of KCN equipment inside common buildings, self-promotion and advertising on the "official SLohA website" and at BOD meetings, 1500+ internet subscribers, frequent equipment deliveries and by the 5 gate passes issued to contractors. For starters. Additionally, most contractors are non residents and non-visitors; they are an unknown presence in SLR here for the sole purpose of employment by KCN to perform tasks related to his internet business. They are a potential security risk to the owners. Gate cards record all entries of these contractors on a computer and that is a protected record. Neighbors can attest to the constant activity on Grayhackle and the many vehicles parked on the street servicing KCN's business. What point is BOD making when it protests that the ISP doing business illegally from within SLR and upon SLR common property provides services, for fee, to individuals and SLohA? Why? Who asked BOD to do that? Why did they place a newspaper ad soliciting bids immediately after the snowbirds returned north (1st week May)? Why were bids directed to Stmb Ixx Inc employees? Why was this action and expense not discussed in a Board meeting? I understood that BOD was "elected" (most were NOT elected--most were appointed and/or passively elected following an appointment) to represent the owners! Voters said No twice to Internet Extortion in S-bag. Voters paid for a SECOND ballot at a cost of thousands of dollars due to BOD's rush to get an assessment, contrary to expensive attorney's advice funded by owners. No one requested the BOD to spend SLR time and resources on one internet service provider let alone competitive bidders. Following the second ballot defeat, BOD continued it's efforts to force internet down the throats of owners and solicited outsiders to come in and breach our covenants! BOD's unsanctioned and undisclosed solicitation of a discretionary information service available to all on the free market adds insult to injury: BOD not only IGNORES our Covenants in favor of KCN and its investors but invites others to join in profits that might be gained from setting up their business in S-bag. It did so in secret and BOD spent your money. One cannot help but ask "Why is BOD and so preoccupied with protecting and securing revenue for KCN on the backs of Owners?" The answer is unknown at this time, but eventually, MANBOD's motives will be revealed. Why is ST pursuing her hostile takeover of S-bag? ST claims she loves the place and does everything in her power to destroy it. When was it determined that she runs S-bag? Who put her in charge of the Board and/or management company? She is a power hungry wind bag that can only pass out fictitious information and feed lies to anyone who is not smart enough to know better.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Jun 21, 2014 15:33:28 GMT -5
BagLady.. I stand corrected. Thanks You for the Facts.. O-Yes, BagLady you do not run SLR. But, you are part of the solution, along with many other good caring residents. Fact Guest is losing control...
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Post by BagLady on Jun 21, 2014 16:34:09 GMT -5
Fact Guest has lost his/her control of their Mind ranting and raving like a lunatic about me wanting to "run" or take over (?) or destroy(!) S-bag. Light's on..but nobody's home!
Someone in here knows who this Nutjob is and it will eventually come to light. Then, I will knock on this person's door and they can run away and hide like a mealy-mouthed coward or answer the door and spew these stupid statements directly to my Bag. I think I already know what Fact Guest will do when his/her identity is revealed and they are confronted.
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Post by Fact finder on Jun 22, 2014 2:04:09 GMT -5
Fact Guest has lost his/her control of their Mind ranting and raving like a lunatic about me wanting to "run" or take over (?) or destroy(!) S-bag. Light's on..but nobody's home! Someone in here knows who this Nutjob is and it will eventually come to light. Then, I will knock on this person's door and they can run away and hide like a mealy-mouthed coward or answer the door and spew these stupid statements directly to my Bag. I think I already know what Fact Guest will do when his/her identity is revealed and they are confronted. I'm sorry, I keep forgetting, bag lady and Jimmy are the only ones that are allowed to make negative comments on here, after all it is their website. There is more truth in the assessment of ST than there is in the board forcing the internet down our throats.
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Post by Fact finder on Jun 22, 2014 2:05:03 GMT -5
BTW, prepare for a road trip
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Post by slanty on Jun 22, 2014 3:56:24 GMT -5
BTW, prepare for a road trip Okay, I'll bite on this. What road trip and where are you going?
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Post by Father Justice on Jun 22, 2014 6:50:26 GMT -5
BTW, prepare for a road trip WHOOPS! Did you get BANNED AGAIN Cliffy *Jenkem ? AHAHAAAAAA!
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Post by BagLady on Jun 22, 2014 7:46:44 GMT -5
Au contraire, Potty Mouth! Anyone can make negative comments but it appears that ONLY YOU engage in mindless, pointless and childish name-calling. THAT is the obnoxious behavior you are being banned for--not for expressing a thoughtful, substantive, negative point-of-view which contributes to a discussion.
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Post by GTO on Jun 22, 2014 13:25:02 GMT -5
Father Justice, Thanks for the heads-up...
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Post by observant on Jun 22, 2014 14:28:02 GMT -5
I'm dying to know who Fact Checker is talking about, when he "heard it from J". Who is J in this whole discussion?? I'm thinking he may mean Gngr, but that is never spelled with a J. Oh, well, I do know that Gngr thought it could be bought back only to learn later that that was not the real case. Fact checker, why do you drool over the "ft cow" thing? Where is the toilet bowl cleaner for your mouth?
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Post by Guest on Jun 22, 2014 14:44:43 GMT -5
I'm dying to know who Fact Checker is talking about, when he "heard it from J". Who is J in this whole discussion?? I'm thinking he may mean Gngr, but that is never spelled with a J. Oh, well, I do know that Gngr thought it could be bought back only to learn later that that was not the real case. Fact checker, why do you drool over the "ft cow" thing? Where is the toilet bowl cleaner for your mouth? Talk around the pool was that CJ was porking the manajer .
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Post by slanty on Jun 22, 2014 15:40:25 GMT -5
Remember that it is the Christians who used their bible to kill over 6 million Jewish people as they were seen as "unclean" people. Defy a Christian and you really need to protect yourself.
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Post by Anonymous Environmentalist on Jun 22, 2014 19:08:57 GMT -5
Remember that it is the Christians who used their bible to kill over 6 million Jewish people as they were seen as "unclean" people. Defy a Christian and you really need to protect yourself. Hitler did it too, however that doesn't have anything to do w/this discussion either. The point is this (no) facts person is not providing any and strays away from any and all facts and now no facts, after calling people names and lying about this or that, has seen fit to throw religion into the conversation by attempting to beat people over the head with it. That's what this type of person does when they can't admit defeat so they throw god out there to discourage anyone from thinking that they are not an honest and righteous person so as to take the focus away from their stupidity and the general topic at hand. This type of person is an obvious hypocrite by using religious reference in any conversation in which it is irrelevant, so it must be to convince themselves that what they are doing is right, because they have nothing else left--it is their last resort.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 7:05:51 GMT -5
Remember that it is the Christians who used their bible to kill over 6 million Jewish people as they were seen as "unclean" people. Defy a Christian and you really need to protect yourself. Hitler did it too, however that doesn't have anything to do w/this discussion either. The point is this (no) facts person is not providing any and strays away from any and all facts and now no facts, after calling people names and lying about this or that, has seen fit to throw religion into the conversation by attempting to beat people over the head with it. That's what this type of person does when they can't admit defeat so they throw god out there to discourage anyone from thinking that they are not an honest and righteous person so as to take the focus away from their stupidity and the general topic at hand. This type of person is an obvious hypocrite by using religious reference in any conversation in which it is irrelevant, so it must be to convince themselves that what they are doing is right, because they have nothing else left--it is their last resort.
What did Jesus say about hypocrisy and hypocrites?
By far, of all preachers and prophets of the Bible, Jesus had the most to say about hypocrisy and hypocrites. Since He didn't mince any words on the subject, but directly confronted the religious hypocrites of His day (the scribes and Pharisees), they hated Him intensely - eventually having Him arrested on trumped up charges. Here is a list of some of the hypocrisy that Jesus spoke against: •Giving to the poor to be recognized by others3 •Praying in public to be recognized as "God's man"4 •Letting everybody know you are fasting to get recognition by others5 •Complaining about other's behavior when yours is even worse.6 •Pretending to honor God through lip service only7 •Testing other people to try to make yourself look superior8 •Deceiving people from knowing God9 •Repressing the poor and widows10 •Teaching proselytes to be hypocrites11 •Tithing (giving to the church), but neglecting justice and mercy12 •Doing everything for show, while really being self-indulgent and unrighteous13 •Treating stock animals better than fellow human beings14 •Being able to analyze the weather, but unable to distinguish between right and wrong15
Jesus indicated that those who practiced hypocrisy would be sent to hell,16 indicating that they were really non-believers. In other books of the New Testament, the writers associate hypocrisy with such things as evil,17 lying,18 perverting the gospel,19 envy and slander,20 and jealousy and selfish ambition.21 James/Jimmy contrasts the evil of hypocrisy with the "wisdom from above," which is characterized as being "pure, peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering."21
I thought this might shed some light on the "Nut Job-Holyer than Thou" Fact person the Hypocrite!
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Post by courious on Jun 23, 2014 17:55:05 GMT -5
Well said Saddlebagwatcher. When all is said and done, the victims will no longer be thrown to the Lions and S-bag will go back into the hands of the owners.
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