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Post by justme on Jun 23, 2014 20:01:29 GMT -5
Its kinda sad to see this community go downhill socially in this way One must realize that this management company is monetary based. they are not here for our well being. There are four ways these companies extract money from communities
1 The basic fee that they charge 2 Up to 7% from insurance 3 Between 10 to 15%from contracts 4 Up to 21% of all legal fees
It in their interests to seek contracts to expand income,as in these sewer lines whether they need doing or not.The out side perimeter fence is next on the list.To me it seems ok for now,but have no doubt a contract must be secured As with these legal suits going on.Its not producing income fast enough, so the manager must instigate more legal activity in any form as in violations or any other method to produce income. Just remember,Its not costing them a cent to do this.Its all at our expense.
By the sounds of it 2 more lawsuits will be on the way ,with another member in here being provoked as I write. This bod I don't think has any idea what they are dealing with,or what they are up against
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Post by Honor our Veterans on Jun 23, 2014 20:36:30 GMT -5
Hitler did it too, however that doesn't have anything to do w/this discussion either. The point is this (no) facts person is not providing any and strays away from any and all facts and now no facts, after calling people names and lying about this or that, has seen fit to throw religion into the conversation by attempting to beat people over the head with it. That's what this type of person does when they can't admit defeat so they throw god out there to discourage anyone from thinking that they are not an honest and righteous person so as to take the focus away from their stupidity and the general topic at hand. This type of person is an obvious hypocrite by using religious reference in any conversation in which it is irrelevant, so it must be to convince themselves that what they are doing is right, because they have nothing else left--it is their last resort.
What did Jesus say about hypocrisy and hypocrites?
By far, of all preachers and prophets of the Bible, Jesus had the most to say about hypocrisy and hypocrites. Since He didn't mince any words on the subject, but directly confronted the religious hypocrites of His day (the scribes and Pharisees), they hated Him intensely - eventually having Him arrested on trumped up charges. Here is a list of some of the hypocrisy that Jesus spoke against: •Giving to the poor to be recognized by others3 •Praying in public to be recognized as "God's man"4 •Letting everybody know you are fasting to get recognition by others5 •Complaining about other's behavior when yours is even worse.6 •Pretending to honor God through lip service only7 •Testing other people to try to make yourself look superior8 •Deceiving people from knowing God9 •Repressing the poor and widows10 •Teaching proselytes to be hypocrites11 •Tithing (giving to the church), but neglecting justice and mercy12 •Doing everything for show, while really being self-indulgent and unrighteous13 •Treating stock animals better than fellow human beings14 •Being able to analyze the weather, but unable to distinguish between right and wrong15
Jesus indicated that those who practiced hypocrisy would be sent to hell,16 indicating that they were really non-believers. In other books of the New Testament, the writers associate hypocrisy with such things as evil,17 lying,18 perverting the gospel,19 envy and slander,20 and jealousy and selfish ambition.21 James/Jimmy contrasts the evil of hypocrisy with the "wisdom from above," which is characterized as being "pure, peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering."21
I thought this might shed some light on the "Nut Job-Holyer than Thou" Fact person the Hypocrite!
One would look at the manager and members of the board of directors and say the above also applies to them as well. In fact, while reading the above visions of them all and their hypocrisies were clear as the nose on my face.
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Post by GTO on Jun 24, 2014 13:07:32 GMT -5
Just Me, So this is how HOAs Management Companies in Florida generate income. Maybe now is the time for a Forensic Audit of SLohA.
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Post by MoJo on Jun 24, 2014 13:23:27 GMT -5
Just Me, So this is how HOAs Management Companies in Florida generate income. Maybe now is the time for a Forensic Audit of SLohA. Spoke with Polk County Sheriffs Dept. and was informed that in Bartow, in the court house is the County Attorney's office and they investigate fraud and would be very interested as to why 4 requests for SLohA bank statements Hayvn't been answered.
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Post by BagLady on Jun 24, 2014 14:00:34 GMT -5
Go to the numbers. Look at our insurance expenses and discount 7%. Look at the Contract Services total in the budget and discount 10-15% Look up the Budget for Legal Fees and discount 21%
Now look at the project money allocated and spent from Reserves for Sewer, Water, Roads etc and discount another 10-15%.
That total is where the REAL money is made for Management companies and their support team--discounts for Big Ticket services. It used to be called "kickbacks" until kickbacks were made illegal. Now, it is "discounts". The more money that Management spends on these services, the more discount money is generated to be shared. It is not easy to identify discounts in a bid or contract.
SLohA has a revenue line item in the budget for "discounts" but has never received or disclosed more than a few bucks.
There should be separation and independent review of all contracting because the people specifying, soliciting and awarding these contracts are the same ones who stand to profit from discounts. There is potential conflict of interest and no disclosure. But this means the BOD has to have an informed and hands-on role in the affairs of the community.
Reputable Management Companies negotiate these "discounts" with the contracting Association and it is written into the Management Agreement.
Others just take it all behind closed doors and who knows Who is sharing what with Whom? Only an intensive forensic audit might reflect the discounting.
Potentially, there is a lot of money to be made by many people off the backs of owner assessments.
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Post by Im Trying on Jun 24, 2014 14:53:35 GMT -5
Um-Very Interesting Indeed, lots of $$$ to be made. [Plus, did I hear right, KCN has problems with Hackers located in China?]
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Post by MoJo on Jun 24, 2014 16:58:36 GMT -5
Um-Very Interesting Indeed, lots of $$$ to be made. [Plus, did I hear right, KCN has problems with Hackers located in China?] Here is the truth on KCN Lightning knocked out several camera's KCN has a virus in the system from an "out of the resort" computer No "HACKERS" in China would even know KCN exists, its a problem due to KCN's unsecure internet T-Storms also fried several KCN bricks and computers on Silver Sides in the last four days
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Post by Im Trying on Jun 24, 2014 23:10:20 GMT -5
I thought KCN was lightning free, why all of the problems now. The China Hackers, I thought was stated at the last BOD in June. Now a days, you don't know who to believe. I personally would not care to have any unsecure internet service.
"Mr. Stb notified BOD that the internet feed has experienced random “denial of service" due to pesky internet hackers in China." Because of this, President Brdn requested that the agenda be changed to allow for motions, etc., be addressed first in hopes that we can complete the majority of BOD necessary business before any possible interruption. Therefore, D Brnd moved that the agenda be adopted as amended. Alc Knttr seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
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Post by J Grnt on Jun 26, 2014 6:58:54 GMT -5
Um-Very Interesting Indeed, lots of $$$ to be made. [Plus, did I hear right, KCN has problems with Hackers located in China?] Here is the truth on KCN Lightning knocked out several camera's KCN has a virus in the system from an "out of the resort" computer No "HACKERS" in China would even know KCN exists, its a problem due to KCN's unsecure internet T-Storms also fried several KCN bricks and computers on Silver Sides in the last four days
I remember having a conversation with director DB back before we voted on the KCN internet the first time (it failed to pass) with the $10 per month internet fee. I asked DB point blank about Hackers, he told me that Hackers don't know about a Sm all outfit like this internet in SLR and Hackers go after big corporations like Verizon, Sprint and the likes. DB also told me that this internet would "make property values go up" .
I have a memory like a steel trap, I wonder if DB does.
&BTW, DBs carport is an eyesore. I can see now why they weren't considered in the past. All it takes is one bad apple to spoil the bunch. But DB does have that "look at me, look at me" personality doesn't he......
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Post by BagLady on Jun 26, 2014 8:57:57 GMT -5
True, in general, but there is no assurance--obviously, Kay c's internet has been found and hacked.
Where is there any evidence of that? Property values have nosedived everywhere regardless of amenities--if the presence of internet "made property values go up"--that factor would have been identified ages ago. S-bag property values are staying even since 2010, after nosediving in 2008. This is easy to verify by looking at Polk County Property Appraiser's website which publishes the sales prices of each transaction.
Property values typically reflect the old truism--location. Talk to real estate agents and ask them what their customers are asking for. In the top end, Buyers tend to want the gated, exclusive environment which usually has an HOA. Increasingly, the middle market is specifying specifically NO HOA both for cost control and headache control. In this market and this neighborhood, a disproportionate # of sales come from within--they churn among owners/renters and families.
An internet amenity makes no difference in SLR; people are already carrying their internet on smartphones and aircards because they are only vacationing here and do not need or want a fixed land signal to pay for. This has been polled twice and people have said NO twice to fixed signal service. DB's insistence that reality is otherwise is reflected by the many dishes and antennas mounted on and about his home and maintained there despite his statement that "he has not made a penny off KCN". DB's belief about Kay c's actual or potential influence on property value is due to factors inside DB's head that are not reflected in the community opinion, as polled on two occasions two years apart. What do you think those factors might be?
The important factor is--location--buyers want to be near friends/family and if they have a home in S-bag, they will buy here. Increasingly in the outside world, a factor that carries a great deal of weight is the presence of an HOA, which requires greater income for loan qualification and with whom banks are regarding as a significant risk factor for a loan. For the public, informed investment in SLR's situation will be assessed as moderately risky (many premises liabilities, several actual and potential lawsuits), potentially costly (special assessments for sewer, increasing assessments), divided (Board and Management company against the owners)--in general--a troubled community to avoid.
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Post by Yours truly on Jun 26, 2014 12:08:04 GMT -5
Here is the truth on KCN Lightning knocked out several camera's KCN has a virus in the system from an "out of the resort" computer No "HACKERS" in China would even know KCN exists, its a problem due to KCN's unsecure internet T-Storms also fried several KCN bricks and computers on Silver Sides in the last four days
I remember having a conversation with director DB back before we voted on the KCN internet the first time (it failed to pass) with the $10 per month internet fee. I asked DB point blank about Hackers, he told me that Hackers don't know about a Sm all outfit like this internet in SLR and Hackers go after big corporations like Verizon, Sprint and the likes. DB also told me that this internet would "make property values go up" .
I have a memory like a steel trap, I wonder if DB does.
&BTW, DBs carport is an eyesore. I can see now why they weren't considered in the past. All it takes is one bad apple to spoil the bunch. But DB does have that "look at me, look at me" personality doesn't he......
I wouldn't put up with the LA Kings not winning the Stanley Cup. BACK (pun intended) to a 63.156.26.xxx IP now eh? BUH BYE NOW! AHAHAHAAAA
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Post by Father Justice on Jun 27, 2014 7:16:56 GMT -5
Its nice to see that all of T's sock accounts have been banned. Psychopaths are not tolerated on this Forum.
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Post by Yours Truly on Jun 27, 2014 10:15:38 GMT -5
Its nice to see that all of Teary's sock accounts have been banned. Psychopaths are not tolerated on this Forum. I thought you were smart enough to know that blocking ip's does not work. If Psychopaths are not tolerated on this Forum. What are you doing on here?
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Post by GTO on Jun 2, 2015 16:50:10 GMT -5
What are The Odds on Resort Wide Mandatory Internet Service Starting in 2016? My guess is 95%, it is coming to your living room soon ! Believe It or Not !
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