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Post by Dick Tracy on May 27, 2015 9:45:44 GMT -5
Well Now We Know ! The reason the New Corporation needs to increase the Tower Heights and add additional Towers in the future. The newly Formed Internet Corporation, first wants to have County wide coverage, then State wide coverage & finally Nation wide coverage.........
PS. This is all for the Good of the Community ! Thank You Bb for Caring about SLR..
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2015 6:54:40 GMT -5
An interesting news tidbit: BOD take heed, looks like the insurance companies are fighting back! (But I think you already know that.)
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Post by GTO on Jun 27, 2015 16:45:26 GMT -5
I do believe that most of the Owners in S-bag are gone for the Summer, and they do not have any idea what is really taking place in SLR at the present. I doubt if many read the Notice section in The Ledger. These very important County Hearings are taking place when 80% of the Owners are not in the park.
You have to ask yourself why is our BOD's bending over backwards to help get Bb's KCNetwork Office, the present Towers, 3 Parcels of Land, a new proposed KCNet Office, a new 100 ft. Tower at the Beach area, plus raise the height on the present Towers and our President of the Board (D B.) has several of Bb's KCNet Commercial Corporate Dish Antennas on his house's rooftop on the main trail.
When did the Members of SLohA vote on these proposed changes? The 2 people who file the signed application with Polk County Zoning a few weeks ago, are D Brnd President of SLR BODs and Bb Stailb of KCNetwork. They are the only residents in SLR with Commercial Communication Antennas on their private property.
If Bb Stailb has indeed formed a New Corporation, who are the Investors? Why withhold this information? Let the SLR Members meet these investors, so we can have some knowledge of future Communication Plans in SLR. Is this New Corporation's Office going to be located in our Community? If the SLohA truly owns the present, the new Towers, plus a proposed lot with a communication/office on site. What will be the Lease Agreement?
Surely this newly formed Commercial Communication Corporation is not getting "A Free Ride Past Go"....
Why is SLR the only Community I can find in Florida with these Issues?
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Post by Admin on Jun 27, 2015 17:05:05 GMT -5
I can say with absolute certainty that SLohA is not the only community in FL with these issues. This is FOR SURE an unusual issue because of many factors colliding over the last 5 years and the inbred nature of the leadership of a largely absentee community. But, from my awareness of other HOA's from reading about HOA's, personal acquaintences outside SLR (including a board member) and interaction over several years with the national online community--not to mention war stories relayed by Frd--SLohA is not unique; for the underlying conditions that create the opportunities for problems large and Sm all exist in all HOA's. Florida is particularly bad and often the object of ridicule on the national forum--a forum largely made up of board members past and present. Another bad state: Google "Nevada, HOA and fraud" and SLohA looks like a day at the beach in comparison.
I have often said--and I believe--that the HOA business model is fatally flawed and destined to fail. That is why I would never, nor would I ever encourage anyone-to voluntarily deliver their financial and retirement lives to an HOA. Failure is only a matter of "when" and how much it is going to cost in $$$ and angst.
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Post by Dick Tracy on Jun 27, 2015 23:09:22 GMT -5
A Board approved Sm all Internet Service started by Bb Stailb, to fill the Void left by Lake Wales Wireless, when they shut down their WI-Fi System, ended up as(KCNetwork), it is not the Sm all Internet Service most residents expected, it is now a Commercial Communication Corporation serving 25+ communities in Polk County. It has been stated the Plan is to first go County wide, then State wide and in the future through out the Nation. The S-bag residents are now left Holding The Bag, all because most Residents in S-bag did not have the knowledge of what was the Truth. Lies were told over and over again, by those in power, plus they are using SLohA's money, back door private meetings, all to hide the true story from its Members. This New Internet Corporation (investors unknown) will have forever changed the "Landscape of Our Community" We Came To Love....
"SLR will Never Be The Same".
Because of eccentric egos and greed, by a few people in power, and that my friends, Is Not A Myth ! 16RC
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Post by jimherbst on Jun 28, 2015 5:57:16 GMT -5
Now that it's permissible to operate a for-profit business in S-bag, I've come up with my own business plan. I propose to offer a service to S-bag residents, as well as customers in the surrounding area, by expanding the RV parking area to accommodate the rising demand. I will appropriate a portion of SLohA property currently being used as the driving range for the Golf Club. I will not, however, pay any rent to SLohA nor do I propose to share any profits with SLohA. I may, however, hire some Board members to collect monthly parking rent from my customers. I also expect SLohA to indemnify me against any liability claims against my business by my customers relating to damages to their parked RV's. Furthermore, I also expect SLohA's groundskeeping staff to make the necessary improvements to create a parking lot, as well as providing maintenance for the parking lot, at no cost to me. And I expect the residents of S-bag to thank me for providing this service.
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Post by Admin on Jun 28, 2015 10:26:43 GMT -5
Now that it's permissible to operate a for-profit business in S-bag, I've come up with my own business plan. I propose to offer a service to S-bag residents, as well as customers in the surrounding area, by expanding the RV parking area to accommodate the rising demand. I will appropriate a portion of SLohA property currently being used as the driving range for the Golf Club. I will not, however, pay any rent to SLohA nor do I propose to share any profits with SLohA. I may, however, hire some Board members to collect monthly parking rent from my customers. I also expect SLohA to indemnify me against any liability claims against my business by my customers relating to damages to their parked RV's. Furthermore, I also expect SLohA's groundskeeping staff to make the necessary improvements to create a parking lot, as well as providing maintenance for the parking lot, at no cost to me. And I expect the residents of S-bag to thank me for providing this service. What is actually happening to owners in here can be no clearer than the scenario that you have presented! And, there can be no future discrimination about conducting profitable business endeavors in S-bag, as long as the business complies with Polk County limitations on commercial activity. Since this activity i.e. RV storage/parking now exists in S-bag within its zoning permissions, it would seem like your business concept would be a slam-dunk with Polk County and of course, SLohA has already permitted exactly what you are proposing. SLohA would not dare risk a discrimination lawsuit by interfering with your plan. The Supporters of this plan might say that, even though there are other RV parks available nearby where you can park your equipment, these facilities are serviced by retro-tech security guard dogs, whereas your plan provides spycams--a much improved technology. Therefore, it is WORTH sacrificing the driving range! (This reasoning is oddly contradictory, since internet technology is rapidly becoming wireless and mobile and these land-tethered towers/fiber optic feeds will probably be obsolete soon.) Notwithstanding that, this is the thinking of the Supporter who would be likely to thank you for providing the service.
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Post by smiley on Jun 29, 2015 14:44:24 GMT -5
BAG LADY, THE WRITE G IS ON THE WALL FOR FUTURE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR LEGAL FEES. HOWEVER, THE MANBOD WILL BLAME RESIDENTS THAT SLohA BROUGHT LAWSUITS AGAINST AS TO WHY LEGAL FEES ARE SO HIGH. I WANT TO GO ON RECORD RIGHT HERE THAT I, Lra Tmyk, RECEIVED WRITTEN APPROVAL BEFORE MY UNIT ARRIVED AND THEN APPROVAL ON THE DAY OUR UNIT ARRIVED BY MANAGEMENT. AND THAT SLohA IS SUING ME NOT ME SUING THEM. I HAVE JUST SOLD ALL OF MY COINS, MOST OF MY JEWELRY AND MY LAST Sm all STOCK INVESTMENT JUST IN DEFENSE OF MYSELF. I HAVE NOTHING BUT MY CAR WORTH $3,000 LEFT IN MY NAME. SO WHEN SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS HIT, NO ONE WILL HAVE PAID A HIGHER PRICE THAN ME. You are a Liar and a trouble maker
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Post by Dick Tracy on Jun 29, 2015 15:21:15 GMT -5
Smiley, Your Quote is old news, like 7 months old. The Case has been settled, and the 3 residents involved, came to be winners. Fact!
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Post by smiley on Jun 29, 2015 15:36:48 GMT -5
Well Now We Know ! The reason the New Corporation needs to increase the Tower Heights and add additional Towers in the future. The newly Formed Internet Corporation, first wants to have County wide coverage, then State wide coverage & finally Nation wide coverage.........
PS. This is all for the Good of the Community ! Thank You Bb for Caring about SLR..
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Post by Lra on Jun 29, 2015 17:30:48 GMT -5
BAG LADY, THE WRITE G IS ON THE WALL FOR FUTURE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR LEGAL FEES. HOWEVER, THE MANBOD WILL BLAME RESIDENTS THAT SLohA BROUGHT LAWSUITS AGAINST AS TO WHY LEGAL FEES ARE SO HIGH. I WANT TO GO ON RECORD RIGHT HERE THAT I, Lra Tmyk, RECEIVED WRITTEN APPROVAL BEFORE MY UNIT ARRIVED AND THEN APPROVAL ON THE DAY OUR UNIT ARRIVED BY MANAGEMENT. AND THAT SLohA IS SUING ME NOT ME SUING THEM. I HAVE JUST SOLD ALL OF MY COINS, MOST OF MY JEWELRY AND MY LAST Sm all STOCK INVESTMENT JUST IN DEFENSE OF MYSELF. I HAVE NOTHING BUT MY CAR WORTH $3,000 LEFT IN MY NAME. SO WHEN SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS HIT, NO ONE WILL HAVE PAID A HIGHER PRICE THAN ME. You are a Liar and a trouble maker Gee Smiley, where have you been? The final results have not been made public, but from my estimation, SLohA paid out over $62,000.00 in legal fees and th insurance company paid out an additional $50,000. to $60,000. to settle up on this ill-gotten fiasco. Perhaps you missed the point. I won, but we (Saddlebaggers ) all lost.
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Post by Admin on Jun 29, 2015 18:07:11 GMT -5
BAG LADY, THE WRITE G IS ON THE WALL FOR FUTURE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR LEGAL FEES. HOWEVER, THE MANBOD WILL BLAME RESIDENTS THAT SLohA BROUGHT LAWSUITS AGAINST AS TO WHY LEGAL FEES ARE SO HIGH. I WANT TO GO ON RECORD RIGHT HERE THAT I, Lra Tmyk, RECEIVED WRITTEN APPROVAL BEFORE MY UNIT ARRIVED AND THEN APPROVAL ON THE DAY OUR UNIT ARRIVED BY MANAGEMENT. AND THAT SLohA IS SUING ME NOT ME SUING THEM. I HAVE JUST SOLD ALL OF MY COINS, MOST OF MY JEWELRY AND MY LAST Sm all STOCK INVESTMENT JUST IN DEFENSE OF MYSELF. I HAVE NOTHING BUT MY CAR WORTH $3,000 LEFT IN MY NAME. SO WHEN SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS HIT, NO ONE WILL HAVE PAID A HIGHER PRICE THAN ME. You are a Liar and a trouble maker @smiley: This post is 9 month's old; but perhaps you are a slow reader. Assuming that you are replying to the 9-month old post, do you have personal knowledge of Lra's financial condition to support your accusation of "liar"? Perhaps you don't understand that Lra & Gngr had SLohA-written approval to site their home? This FACT has already been documented with a signed (by M. e. l.) pink paper posted on this forum many months ago and of course, was incontrovertible evidence refuting SLohA's complaints in SLohA's lawsuit. (In any case, it was moot since a signed pink paper was not required.) Perhaps you missed a photograph of the home arriving at the gate and M. e. l. talking to a contractor in the foreground that was posted on this forum many months ago and was also entered into evidence during litigation. That photo, which had been posted publicly on this forum months before the mediation, ultimately brought SLohA to its knees during the mediation. Why? Because it proved that an affidavit had been falsified and BOD did not exercise due diligence and relied on the word of a known liar. Perhaps if YOU were sued by SLohA, you would roll over and play dead and not defend yourself from an unwarranted and unfounded attack. That is a choice but I think most people would hire an attorney to defend themselves. Perhaps you think that makes someone a "troublemaker"? Finally, perhaps you are lagging behind the news; all issues were settled 4 months ago. It was a clean sweep--SLohA dismissed its loser lawsuit that cost SLohA over $68K, Lra and Gngr prevailed on all counts of their defense and all legal costs were paid back to Lra and Gngr. Finis! Let's move on, sH all we? Assuming you are a "senior"--calling your neighbors' names is lame and junior high-ish. Do you have anything thoughtful to contribute?
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Post by Dick Tracy on Jun 29, 2015 22:11:14 GMT -5
Bb S of KCNetwork stated on Chug's Current Issues in January 2015:
Quote; My wife and my father both noticed a dramatic improvement in my health during the time that I had been working on this project and both suggested that I may be uniquely qualified to give Saddlebaggers something they badly needed. I ultimately told several Board Members that if I had a written commitment from every Board Member that they woul;d vote to approve a project where I agreed to provide all of the money needed to build any new towers that were needed and to clean up the old towers and install new modern radios, that I would agree to do so. I specifically said that "I don't ever want to be accused of running a business in the Resort and I need to be sure that the Board has the authority to Gra nt my request."
I received emails from every Board Member agreeing to my request.
The Rest is History....
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Now that did not turn out very well. O-No it is not a Business any more people it is, A Newly Formed Corporation we have on Grey Hackle, along with all of the Bells & Whistles.
"Yes" B ob that was and is a Business.... And "No" B ob the Board did not have the authority to Gra nt your request....
"The Deal" with our BOD's was misleading from the beginning, to say the very least... What do you have to say?
I think a Records Request for the above E-Mails, between Bb S. and the BODs back in that point in time, is in order. I have been mislead to believe that no such correspondence existed. 16RC
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Post by observer on Jun 30, 2015 9:09:30 GMT -5
Dear Smiley, I offer you a fact showdown. You bring your "facts" of Lra lying, and I will bring our proofs of no lying. We can meet at the pool at 4:00 today if you wish. You present your "facts" and I will show the proofs. It is you, my friend, who is lying. I will take bets on the FACT that Smiley won't show, because he/she has no "facts".
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Post by observer on Jun 30, 2015 16:17:24 GMT -5
Smiley, I knew you would never meet me at the pool and show your facts that "Lra lied" because you do not have facts and you are what we call a "hit and run". That means you throw out a false accusation against one of the opposition and hope it convinces the unwashed masses to believe it knowing it wasn't true to begin with. Then when confronted, you don't even show up to "prove" your point. I had a lovely time at the pool and want all the negative misinformed board and their friends to know that Lra is not a liar and never has been. We may exaggerate a little but definitely not fabrication. Now, Smiley, That is a proven fact.
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Post by eastpolk on Jul 2, 2015 13:19:49 GMT -5
While I am sure that most everyone is already aware, but I want to make public the blatant shenanigans of St aib and son. I had the chance meeting of a person that took their computer to the xx xxxx (stabs son) after being told by St aib that there was an issue with it because that person could not get on line. This individual took the peasee to another business to be checked out. Low and behold, it was fine. They then took it to the Nerd, where they were promptly told there is an issue and it would cost almost $100 to fix. Even though they knew it was fine. Of course they just took it back home and did not let the Nerd do anything to it. Seems like the business practices are along the same lines for father and son.
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Post by Annonymous Environmentalist on Jul 5, 2015 6:54:31 GMT -5
While I am sure that most everyone is already aware, but I want to make public the blatant shenanigans of St aib and son. I had the chance meeting of a person that took their computer to the xx xxxx (stabs son) after being told by St aib that there was an issue with it because that person could not get on line. This individual took the peasee to another business to be checked out. Low and behold, it was fine. They then took it to the Nerd, where they were promptly told there is an issue and it would cost almost $100 to fix. Even though they knew it was fine. Of course they just took it back home and did not let the Nerd do anything to it. Seems like the business practices are along the same lines for father and son. We have had a similar encounter w/this "NERD". When our computer had problems, we took it to the Nerd--(at the time, we had no idea who he really is and is related to.) He claimed he had to replace our hard drive and assured us it would be o.k. after that. After more time than he said would be necessary to fix it, we finally got our computer back--two days later--it blue screened on us and never worked anymore after that. He took our $1,000 computer and turned it into a $1,000 paper weight. Oh, and he charged us a couple hundred dollars as well. Anyone thinking of taking anything to this xx xxxx to get fixed needs to seriously reconsider doing so. You will be sorry later on down the road if you do...
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Post by Dick Tracy on Jul 10, 2015 0:19:14 GMT -5
This is just plain BS. Bb claims to have Sold KCNet and formed a New Corporation. Then Bb & the Board in SLR files for a Land Use Change for the benefit of Bb's KCNetwork. Plus add 1 new tower at the Beach House Area, raise the heights of the present Towers, and add a Bldg. to house the equipment for this New Commercial Internet Corp, and the residents in S-bag do not have a clue about the Members of Bb's New Corp. And we are all asked to support this Commercial Internet Operation, when we are left outside of the Loop. This Is Just Plain Nuts, You Take Us To Be Fools.....
Believe me, when I say, their is much more to this story. Why is this New Corporation of Bb's KCNetwork, not exposing itself?
Who does this Internet Operation Truly Benifit??? And who is left Holding The Bag, "Us"... 16RC
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Post by eastpolk on Jul 14, 2015 12:05:43 GMT -5
I would bet a dime to a dollar that one of the backers for this venture is Morris Satellite located on North Scenic Hwy. He has one of Bb's antennas and I have observed his guys installing stuff for Bb at Lake Aurora and others homes. The most important thing to remember here is that once Brighthouse upgrades the system out here it will make his obsolete virtually overnight. Brighthouse has already started the permit and drawing process so it is only a matter of time, they are doing this because Nalcrest and Lakeshore have threatened to not renew their big fat bulk contracts unless highspeed internet and HD tv are included.
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Post by GTO on Jul 14, 2015 17:36:50 GMT -5
A Google Search Reveals Some Past Corporate History..
I did a simple Google search. This is one of the things I found on the search:
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Forbes News
Jon Swartz 7/26/1999 @ 12:00AM
No sweat
Ch-ch-changes David Bowie didn’t have the Internet in mind when he penned his seminal 1970s hit, “Changes,” but that appears to be the tune at a pair of dot-com companies. David Thomas, chief executive of San Jose portal company BroadQuest, was ousted in a corporate coup. leery Crume, late of Autodesk adsk and Lotus Development Corp., took over the reins last week. Robber St aib, former CEO of Coralville, Iowa-based Neural Applications, should be as lucky as Thomas. St aib, 57, was recently indicted by a federal grand jury in Cedar Rapids, Iowa on two felony counts of bank fraud. If convicted, he faces up to five years in prison, according to U.S. Attorney Stephen Rapp. Federal authorities claim St aib last year inflated the value of his stock portfolio twice in the pursuit of $3 million in loans from Guaranty Bank & Trust Co. of Cedar Rapids. In one particularly brazen bid, according to court documents, St aib said he owned 645,000 shares of United Airlines, when he held only 120. Law enforcement sources said St aib used the money to start a charter plane service that never got off the ground. St aib had no comment, and has counter-sued the Cedar Rapids bank. The case is expected to go to trial in January.
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